I just sold Kinor’s last Arab X – a buckskin gelding o/o my best Arab mare (also dam of Inde). He is 5 yrs old and went to a former regional champion endurance rider, so hopefully we’ll see him competing next year. Here’s a pic:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2662507600104425996feBkSN
Kerry Redente (AERC '09 National High Mileage Champion) has a lovely dark palomino filly named Kahlua Gold for sale that was sired by Kinor and is o/o a very nice Arab mare. The full sibling to this filly sold at 30 days of age to endurance rider Mel Hare and we should be seeing that colt competing next year (he’s only 3, I think right now).
Shannon Mayfield has 4 Kinor foals o/o various non-Teke mares. The oldest, Octopelle is o/o a Paint mare. He had a pretty successful year in '10 doing LD’s, but I haven’t heard anything from him this year.
And I just “re-homed” the first horse I ever bred: a TB/Teke mare sired by Pieter. That mare is SO laid back she successfully carted her very ammie/green owner all over the mtns. of Idaho for years, till the owner’s health forced her to give the horse up. The mare (“Hero”) is now on a permanent lease to a local lesson program, where she recently carted around a 71 yr old beginning rider! That mare is a treasure – safest horse in the world on the trail.
I do find that most of the Arab/Teke crosses seem to be quieter and more personable than the PB Tekes…they are less stand-offish. But depends on the dam. My Polish Arab mare (triple bred Bask) can throw some real hotties (like Inde), but that came from her, not Kinor.
Again, there simply aren’t enough Tekes out there who have really put the miles in to actually prove their talent. 400 AERC miles isn’t much, after all.
Out of the actual Tekes who are doing endurance, Patrickhan is looking the best so far, but if you want to breed to him you need to be willing to work with frozen semen, since he was gelded a number of years ago.
I DO have high hopes for Kinor’s babies, and I’ve managed to place afew of them in very promising performance homes, but the jury is out for a few more years.
I have retained his only Teke offspring, a colt I named Kioyote Moon.http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2417243550104425996OVnKeg He was Kinor’s last foal and was conceived just a month before Kinor died. His dam is by Astrakhan and o/o a Kys granddaughter, so he is actually linebred to this (so-called) impure line of Tekes. But considering how athlete this line tended to be and were quite proven in performance (Gindarkh competed very successfully in jumpers & eventing off a Kys son back when she was a youngster ;)) this is actually a plus in my mind.
Kioyote is surprisingly mellow given his lineage and loaded with type AND movement, so for now I will keep him whole and we’ll go from there.
I do still have Kinor’s dam (Karma), who will be 25 yrs old soon, but she is retired from doing anything but eating. But she still looks good…she has the shiniest coat on her I’ve seen in ages! Here she is back in younger days:http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2910353560104425996WCSNcI
And that’s it for me in terms of Tekes, with the exception of Kazakh Heart, a 3/4 sister to Kinor. More about her later…
As for the Tekes in Iran, Brent Seutert (sp?) went there twice, hoping to import some of these horses, but as another poster noted, right now it’s just impossible because of the political climate.
Also, you would have to establish a new registry if you wanted to track bloodlines using this stock, because none of these horses would be accepted into the current Russian “mother studbook”.
All I can say for those of you out there looking for a Teke or a Teke cross to compete off of is do LOTS of homework, see LOTS of horses, check out legs & feet carefully and meet the horse in person if you can.
I hate to say this about a breed I adore, but the simple fact is there IS alot of crap out there – horses bred for looks and not much else.
Also, I know some people disagree with me on this, but I have found that (in general), these are NOT horses for ammies or real greenies to fumble around with. They tend to be sensitive, very forward, and easily offended (for lack of a better term).
I have a 3/4 sister to Kinor (the aforementioned Kazakh Heart) who is just lovely & may actually be the most athletic horse I’ve EVER seen, but who I have refused to sell over the years simply because I know she would be a total trainwreck in the wrong hands. After lots of handling, sacking out, etc. I finally put an English saddle on her afew weeks ago while we were in the round pen.
Well, she bucked so hard she bucked the saddle blanket out from under the saddle!!!:eek::eek: When she bucked, her back was actually higher than the highest bar on my 5’6" round pen!! All I could think of was “good gravy, I’m sure glad I wasn’t on her for that!!”. Here’s the little darling:http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2792131860104425996yMmWWA
She’s a supreme athlete, but she needs a rider who is just as athletic to bring it out…all others need not apply.
Just sayin’…