Always get stuff in writing no matter who it is

[Ghazzu]

[QUOTE=Abbie.S;8749549]
A quick Google search for “EIMMS in horses” turns up hits for equine metabolic syndrome. Not autoimmune, and not a muscular condition.

So neither the internet nor CoTH’s resident vet have heard of EIMMS.

Anytime someone says they have an animal with a condition that can only be treated with holistic medicine, it screams special snowflake. It raises suspicion when someone claims their special practitioner know all about this condition, but no one else has even heard about it.

OP, I feel for, and get, having to make hard decisions that you don’t want to make, but that life forces on you. But if the issue is that you don’t like that the horse’s new owner made medical choices you didn’t agree with, well, you’re going to have to move past that.

Going against your wishes or your vet’s recommendations, even if it results in a poor outcome, does not equal neglect.[/QUOTE]

I’ll make a SWAG that it’s a variant of immune-mediated myositis, but that does not typically present as hoof abscesses, it presents as muscle atrophy.

[vxf111]

[QUOTE=Heinz 57;8749393]
While I agree that there’s a lot of nonsense going on here and something smells funky, I think this statement is a bit of a stretch.[/QUOTE]

Given this specific poster’s financial history/situation, I mean (losing everything not long ago to bankruptcy, being in very dire straits, lost the farm, having to resort to gofundme and claiming the mare is going to slaughter just to raise funds). Not in the abstract.

[Pocket_Pony]

This has potential to be like The Pony thread. We just need the friend/buyer/horse seller to show up.

[Sugarwells]

What’s with the chain around her neck?

[PeteyPie]

I’m just seeing this as blatant fundraising. She sold her horse, was given the opportunity to buy it back, couldn’t afford it, so now is soliciting money. This has nothing to do with contracts, written or otherwise, it has to do with reaching a larger audience to hustle, and the premise of the original post is disingenuous, in my opinion.

OP, if you really want the horse back, save $500 to $1000 a month, or equal to what your monthly expenses will be when you get the horse back. In a few months, offer the new owner $2000. They will probably be glad to sell a 19 year old horse to you for that amount. If not, keep saving the money and after a few months, offer more. Then console yourself that every month you save money is a month that someone else is paying the feed bill.

Also, the horse looks good in the video. If you can’t afford to save at least $500 a month, how good will he look after a few months with you?

[Sugarwells]

Or if you could have just saved the money you made from selling her.

[jetsmom]

[QUOTE=Sugarwells;8749628]
What’s with the chain around her neck?[/QUOTE]

Its a special holistic chain that has magnetic effects that keep the horse’s aura in line with true North. Prevents a special medical condition called “HYABTD” (Having your aura bite the dust). Only special holistic medical supply houses carry them. But you get a free carrot stick with every purchase.

OP…I’m actually sorry you are hurting. But it’s late at night, I’m tired of reading about so much strife in the world, and I needed a little humor. I’m not actually mocking your feeling badly. Regardless of mistakes made that doesn’t remove the hurt and uncertainty of where your old horse is. The best thing you can do is get yourself on firm financial footing, send a note to the new owners to contact you if they ever need to sell her.

[Crockpot]

How much did you receive for the horse when you sold her?

[S1969]

[QUOTE=scstables2;8749411]
The horse suffered with massive side effects when new owner vaccinated her against my veterinarian’s diagnosis. The side effects reappeared and the horse had abscesses that rotated from foot to foot to foot over a 6 month period in 2014.

The horse also has an auto immune condition known as EIMMS. and certain things flare it up (its a very painful muscle condition). My holistic vets and animal sports therapist know about this. Its real and it exists, I saw this mare go through it and we were able to reverse it THROUGH the treatments and recommendations by my holistic veterinarians. [/QUOTE]

This must be a very rare condition, since a Google search turns up nothing. It’s odd that it is exacerbated by vaccination and the side effects present as abscesses.

I believe in holistic treatment for animals and humans, but this sounds a bit “out there” even for me.

[Guilherme]

I get that losing a “soul horse” hurts. I also get that if you can’t afford that soul horse you’ve got to move them on down the road. That’s just the way things are in a world where horses are a luxury. On that note, if you can’t afford $5000 for a horse you can’t afford a horse. That’s not a “stretch”; it’s reality.

Writing a blog and coming to the COTH Forum is not suffering in silence.

You sound clinically depressed; if that is true you need professional help to move past it. Get it.

G.

[invinoveritas]

I feel sorry for the horse, not for the OP.
Of course if the horse is now in a good home, that is great.
If not, then it is the OP’s fault the horse is in whatever condition she is in.

Hey, is “scstables” in South Carolina? Is the horse in SC? Would be nice to know where the horse is now and who has her.

[vxf111]

[QUOTE=invinoveritas;8749799]
I feel sorry for the horse, not for the OP.
Of course if the horse is now in a good home, that is great.
If not, then it is the OP’s fault the horse is in whatever condition she is in.

Hey, is “scstables” in South Carolina? Is the horse in SC? Would be nice to know where the horse is now and who has her.[/QUOTE]

My googling suggests that the “SC” does not stand for South Carolina and that the horse/OP are in a different state than SC but both are still geographically close to each other (i.e. visiting distance), but who really knows.

[Silverbridge]

[QUOTE=scstables2;8749411]
…AGAIN the only reason I posted this, is so no one else ends up losing something very precious to them. [/QUOTE]

No, it isn’t.

[Gestalt]

OP I feel sorry for you, I think you need the horse more than it needs you. Your emotional state seems precarious.

I believe abcesses can be a result of toxicity. If the horse is intolerant of certain meds it could lead to founder, colic, or hoof abscesses.

[Crockpot]

I think it is sad that the Op was unable to buy the horse back but sounds like she had the opportunity to do so in accordance with the agreement but could not come up with the purchase price. As she said in a link earlier on this thread -she opted to sell rather than lease because she did not want to risk the horse coming back lame. It was her decision by the sounds of it- no one made her do it- and it seems she was offered the first right of refusal but could not come up with 5 k. I wonder if she sold the horse for more than 5 k. No answer on that.

I do hope the horse landed softly for the horses sake

[SendenHorse]

you imply a contract would have worked. I doubt it, many people ignore it.

I thought having a contract was standard, I knew this even as a 15 yr old.

[Crockpot]

[QUOTE=SendenHorse;8750002]
you imply a contract would have worked. I doubt it, many people ignore it.

I thought having a contract was standard, I knew this even as a 15 yr old.[/QUOTE]
From what can be pieced together- the oP was actually given an opportunity to buy back in accordance with the verbal understanding but could not come up with the money

Verbal agreements often work. It is only when they dont work that we hear about them. So of course always better to get in writing.

Not sure how that would have changed this situation however if OP not able to come up with the funds to exercise the first right of refusal.

[HungarianHippo]

And yes, a lot of people, without being rich, do have $5k lying around, maybe not in cash but at least in a fairly investment. It’s called a nest egg / emergency fund, and you should include it in your financial plan as you get back on your feet. (Not by asking for gofundme handouts but by reducing expenses, increasing income and saving some money every single week).

[SendenHorse]

[QUOTE=Crockpot;8750089]
From what can be pieced together- the oP was actually given an opportunity to buy back in accordance with the verbal understanding but could not come up with the money

Verbal agreements often work. It is only when they don’t work that we hear about them. So of course always better to get in writing.

Not sure how that would have changed this situation however if OP not able to come up with the funds to exercise the first right of refusal.[/QUOTE]

ok, yeah, I wasn’t sure how this all went down exactly but I agree that it’s not so much the contract issue as a money issue.

I don’t know what OP meant when “not having 5K saved up wasn’t the issue”, umm its exactly the issue. where do you think money come from to buy things? oh, that’s right, she wanted a go fund me account. Because it’s a really good idea to buy something that you know needs high level medical care on top of being an expensive hobby to start with when you don’t have money.

[Crockpot]

And yes, a lot of people, without being rich, do have $5k lying around, maybe not in cash but at least in a fairly investment. It’s called a nest egg / emergency fund, and you should include it in your financial plan as you get back on your feet. (Not by asking for gofundme handouts but by reducing expenses, increasing income and saving some money every single week).

You have to have something lying around to exercise a right of first refusal.

I am guessing the Op sold the horse for at least 5K since she has not replied to that question.

Again- hoping all is well with the horse