Just… when they show up, for crying out loud put a bra on before you go out to meet them!
Griffyn…agree with Ambrey…if you see as camera crew put the girls in a holder. :winkgrin: Meanwhile I could run around my yard without any top on and you’d still not know if I were wearing a bra or not. Or possible even which way I was facing. :lol:
My first thought watching the videos in that were, “Dang, those ladies are sah-winging!” :eek:
It just strikes me as weird that as soon as I hear, see on TV or read about a new case of animal neglect the person they eventually show looks almost the same as the last news story about the same topic. Same goes for the men too…even if you just watch Animal Cops on Animal Planet…all the folks getting animals taken from them look the same. Not identical but the same adjectives could be used to describe each one’s appearance.
I’m not ready to agree that most or even many of these folks have any type of actual illness/mental disease. And definitely not a disorder…which seems a new-age catch-all phrase for anything and everything. My personal opinion on it is even for those not trying to make a buck off the animals…they’re impulsive immature morons who at a certain moment say, “I WANT that animal” or “I’m gonna breed” or whatever such nonsense impulse (and impulses are not disorders) and so they go ahead with it and then just don’t feel like spending the money required to care for it or take the time and effort to care for it. They see it skinny, filthy, lame and sick and care for a split second…“Oh geez, they don’t look good” and then that morphs in their lazy little brains to “They’ll be better tomorrow/I’ll feed them tomorrow” crap but they just never get around to it. Laziness on a grand scale.
Now did I read this thread right…did Norcrest really pop up with a comment? Is it trainwreck-y to ask what that comment might have been?
Yes she did. Basically that none of it was her fault, as the people who owned the horses she starved didn’t care about them anyway. I think her comment was up for a total of about 10 seconds, my timing must have just been right (wish I’d quoted it!).
Although this is a sad topic, you are making me laugh (otherwise I’d be crying.)
This is horrific…
But the bra thing did crack me up…but you are talking to someone who won’t go out to the mailbox without a bra on. I’ve never understood how women can “bounce around” carefree in public without the girls in a hoister.
You have got to be kidding. After all the work done to save animals the last time?
Sorry to derail some more - but geez. What’s the point of animal abuse laws if we just let people accumulate more animals? It’s like saying about a pedophile - oh - well - we’ll only let up to 8 kids around him instead of 15. Yeah, right. They’re so much safer now.:rolleyes:
dalpal - I have to wear the over the shoulder boulder holder to get the mail too. Otherwise I step on them. 
I was on there - and thank you. 
I’m not commenting on the case since it is still open. The first stage will take place next Monday, and I’ll be there. That’s the civil part where the JP decides whether the horses are neglected and what will happen to them. Criminal charges have not been pressed yet, but they will be. Last time, it took five years to get her into court because she kept getting continuances as she changed attorneys.
Court was today. The judge was not a happy man - this is the second time she’s been in his court for animal abuse. The deputy presented his information, and Amanda presented her side. I won’t go into all the details as there will likely be a criminal case as well, but the good news is that all of the horses were awarded to BEHS. We have talked to the owner of three of the horses - she is going to pick up one of the horses and release the other two to us. We have the lead on someone else who may own some of the horses, so I have sent her an email and have been trying to reach her by phone.
The tragic part of this is that the palomino (who was on the videos) died. He went down and struggled. The vet was out there multiple times, trying to help him, and our volunteers spent most of the day and part of the night trying to help him up. But in the end, he was too weak and the vet recommended euthanasia. His opinion is that the little guy had no muscle left in his entire body. That is just heartbreaking - especially considering that that little horse was in her front yard. She had to walk by him anytime she went in or out of her house.
I’m a little conflicted on that. An owner, who now knows that her horses were neglected decides to only take 1? She does not want her other 2 but is still seen as fit to have 1 back?
All that tells me is that the other two are better off where they are
How tradgic.
Jenn, don’t the penalties increase for the 2nd time someone is convicted of animal cruelty? I am almost certain that Colorado’s statute makes it a felony if someone found guilty of animal abuse is brought up on charges again. Was she convicted previously?
Sadly, I couldn’t make all this up if I tried. Agreed… too often the penalties for animal cruelty do not address the issue sufficiently and the cycle repeats itself.
I have my hands full during my break in between semesters. The Matchett situation is one of many rescue related missions I will be volunteering my time on Last year, we removed the first horse 12/24… literally saving Cheyenne’s life. I intend to make the horse’s, who are stuck under the convicted animal abuser’s custody, a good Christmas once again in 2008. Anyone (esp. in Colo.) that wants to help, please PM or email me. I will need all the help I can get. None of us can do this alone.
I am sure BEHS needs all the support they can get right now. Consider asking your friends or family to send a donation in your name to a horse rescue this year. Believe me, the horses need us now more than ever.
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I’m a little conflicted on that. An owner, who now knows that her horses were neglected decides to only take 1? She does not want her other 2 but is still seen as fit to have 1 back?[/QUOTE]
Or maybe she really can only afford to take care of one and is doing the responsible thing?
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Or maybe she really can only afford to take care of one and is doing the responsible thing?[/QUOTE]
That’s why I am conflicted. I assume she didn’t know her horses were being starved in which case she is blameless and would want all 3 and know how much it costs to actually feed them.
But now she just wants 1 horse and chooses the one she wants to feed? Should she be trusted with a horse at all if she is only 1/3 responsible?
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Sadly, I couldn’t make all this up if I tried. Agreed… too often the penalties for animal cruelty do not address the issue sufficiently and the cycle repeats itself.
I have my hands full during my break in between semesters. The Matchett situation is one of many rescue related missions I will be volunteering my time on Last year, we removed the first horse 12/24… literally saving Cheyenne’s life. I intend to make the horse’s, who are stuck under the convicted animal abuser’s custody, a good Christmas once again in 2008. Anyone (esp. in Colo.) that wants to help, please PM or email me. I will need all the help I can get. None of us can do this alone.
I am sure BEHS needs all the support they can get right now. Consider asking your friends or family to send a donation in your name to a horse rescue this year. Believe me, the horses need us now more than ever.[/QUOTE]
Good idea that bears repeating.
I have been doint that for a few years, not specifying where to, horse, dog, people helping organization, anyone and several friends now do that, no more hunting for presents, which we at times still do, of course.
Our small animal vet started that, when he said he rather we donated to the local shelter than bringing him presents.
Now we send donations there in his name.
Some rescues also accept donations in the name of a favorite pet, as a memorial donation.:yes:
Good idea.
I think it morphs into a thought of, “gee, I am hungry too, time to open another bag of Doritos and a 20 oz-er”.
I am glad to hear the judge saw right thru her story.
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Yes she did (Norcrest pop up). Basically that none of it was her fault, as the people who owned the horses she starved didn’t care about them anyway. I think her comment was up for a total of about 10 seconds, my timing must have just been right (wish I’d quoted it!).[/QUOTE]
I wish I quoted it to. It was deleted very quickly.
It started be saying something to the effect of:
I was planning on stopping my boarding business in a few months, but the humane society made that happen faster.
It went on to say how she didn’t do anything wrong… people left horses there (isn’t that called horse boarding?)… and I guess she didn’t feel the inclination to feed them.
I hope she is also required to have a mental evaluation, like Amanda and Matchett were both required to.
I gave her the option - she’s gone through a lot, seems to be a pretty good person, and had these horses for sale for a reason (she needs to cut down on numbers). I’m ok with it and will give the same option to any other owners we turn up.
Well, the penalities do increase - from a tap on the wrist to a slap on the wrist. And in Texas, it isn’t a felony until the third time - so we’ve got one more time to go. And it’ll happen. Unless she moves out of state and someone else has to deal with her. sigh
Most of it is up on her blog in longer, more rambling form. The blog was posted elsewhere.
Basically that the guy who turned her in, who owned the horses that Savoy8 outed here, was a scumbag and it was all his fault and he was out to get her (and not just because she starved his horses to skin and bones).
No mention of the horses that had to be euthanized by the humane society, of course.
