Andrew McConnon horse abuse

[GraceLikeRain]

Anyone willing to do a quick Tl:dr about where we at at? I read the first 50 or so posts and now we are 1k deep.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Fair enough.

There’s clearly lots of people speaking on social media about this situation who claim to have information from sources close to the situation.

Who knows. I just find it hard to believe that the SO isn’t aware of the issues.

[Jealoushe]

The Eventing Nation article is excellent for a timeline and where we are now.

[GraceLikeRain]

Thank you!

[Dressurfrau]

My heart breaks for that horse.

[peedin]

Jesus Mary Joseph and the wee donkey. Your poor girl.

[LilyandBaron]

Note to self - ask about fire ants before relocating . Jingles!!!

[FrittSkritt]

He also grew up in a religion that’s notoriously anti-LGBTQ… That’s all I’m going to say on that topic.

[trakehners]

It doesn’t even have to be fire ants, I pulled my horse in from the field one day last year and he was missing both left shoes and was covered in hives on that side of his body. I live in PA and our conclusion was he must’ve disturbed a nest of ground bees or wasps or something. Nowhere is safe

[enjoytheride]

I have seen the two videos posted here, are they anywhere else online? Are there more?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

There are more videos, but they haven’t been posted online. They are part of the evidence that was provided to USEF and FEI

[TXnGA]

@AMWookey

We have one person’s statement that we heard the vet on a video. One person’s. I’m not going to get into it over a message board with a bunch of strangers who don’t know these people personally, but I’m not willing to crucify someone who isn’t in any of the videos currently released, not when I actually know them personally.

I know some of the folks here commenting here know them. All I am saying is if you mark up a horse at 10am, give them dex at 1015, and your partner comes home at 9pm after a long day of emergencies, how are they to know what is being administered? (All timelines are just examples, I don’t know anything about what went on).

That’s all well and good-
But SO didn’t always work a 9-5 in a vet office. For many years he worked just as a chiro/ acupuncture Nd made his own hours, and some travel work for an equine vet. Working where he works currently happened relatively recently within the last few year(s).

Well, how would I know- he worked on my horses a few times for chiro/ acupuncture.

And I was the one who knows and has stated here-
The videos released on SM are tame compared to what was sent to the PTB- including the one where the SO is heard.

His SO is always with him at shows and most traveling AM does… so there is that.

And there are also videos of him abusing his dogs.

But do go on…

[Scaramouch]

Cameron (since he’s already been named in this thread) has worked for Brezeway in his current capacity since he finished vet school in 2018. Before that he was in vet school and interning with Bri. None of that is inconsistent with him doing chiro and acupuncture obviously, and either way arguments based on what we imagine his specific working hours to be are just silly.

Without further evidence, all anyone can do re: the extent to which Cameron was aware of Andrew’s behavior, whether or not he’s culpable in covering it up, or what toxic dynamics are or are not at play in that relationship is speculate. If we’re going down that road I would wonder how many other vets see Andrew’s horses (because how many pros with two 5* horses just use one vet?) on a somewhat routine basis?

[ake987]

@TXnGA

That’s all well and good-
But SO didn’t always work a 9-5 in a vet office. For many years he worked just as a chiro/ acupuncture Nd made his own hours, and some travel work for an equine vet. Working where he works currently happened relatively recently within the last few year(s).

Well, how would I know- he worked on my horses a few times for chiro/ acupuncture.

And I was the one who knows and has stated here-
The videos released on SM are tame compared to what was sent to the PTB- including the one where the SO is heard.

His SO is always with him at shows and most traveling AM does… so there is that.

And there are also videos of him abusing his dogs.

But do go on…

I was on the phone with someone who told me about this specific unreleased video. Complete with knowledge of the horse’s injuries I haven’t seen shared (here, at least) and mentioned the vet speaking during it. This person has absolutely no reason to lie, so - I guess I’m just offering further support for this being the truth, even though I haven’t seen it.

[Jealoushe]

ughhhhh the dogs too? FFS

[ake987]

@equestrian_101

100% I haven’t heard a male voice in any videos that have been made public. Show me a video with a male voice in the background and then I will believe them. I hate how people have been publicly named without knowing the true story, and their impact on the case.

AM has been shown in many videos so I believe it to be true. But dragging random people into the mix without any proof or anyone to back them up is very suspicious.

This is why I don’t believe the SO vet had any idea about what was going on. Anyone here can post a video, show me the video with a male voice.

It’s not a public video.

@equestrian_101

I find it so ironic how you seem to know everything. my thought exactly as if the people who took the videos were so concerned about animal welfare, why they didn’t release the videos earlier

That’s a completely unfair categorization of the witnesses. They didn’t release material because they were trying to leverage due process. Haven’t we been over this?

[Jealoushe]

@equestrian_101

Then release the videos with the SO voice in it. Hard to believe any random person on a thread without seeing actual proof.

it’s been posted other places not just CoTH. Not saying it’s legit just wanted to clarify that.

I think whoever has that video is not the same person who released the other videos on social media.

[Aussie_2020]

No one is obligated to “show you the video” or else you won’t believe it. No one cares if you believe it or not.

[Aussie_2020]

Am I the only one thinking the above poster is either very, very close to the vet or they are the vet? Some strident demands being made.

[FitzE]

@TXnGA

The videos released on SM are tame compared to what was sent to the PTB

This is horrific. If this is true (and, from the videos we have seen, I’ve no reason to think it isn’t) then the FEI and USEF should be on notice to hand down the strongest possible sanction they have or those videos will go public as well. Knowing they’ve seen worse and have done nothing makes this orders of magnitude worse.

Those poor horses and dogs.

@equestrian_101

Anyone here can post a video, show me the video with a male voice.

You are wrong. The other (reportedly worse) videos have been submitted to the USEF and FEI. The people reporting specifically did NOT go the ‘public release’ method but, instead, tried to do the right thing and go through proper channels to report. No one has those to post for you - they are in the hands of the whistleblower(s) and the organisations to which they were reported.

Unfortunately, TPTB taught them and everyone paying attention that they will do sweet FA until someone else releases them publicly and gets SM in an uproar. An unforced error on the part of the governing bodies and I suspect going forward more people will go the SM route first as at least it gets traction, whereas following the rules and working within the system gets the little guy whistleblow blown off while the BNT or BNR experiences zero consequences. And swans off to Burghley, in this case, with a wallet fat with USEA funding.