Andrew McConnon horse abuse

[FitzE]

Wow, and a panicked flurry of dirty deletes as well!!

[Aussie_2020]

Dang! And here I had the video already to post for them. No

[ake987]

goes the houseguest.

[equestrian_101]

then post for the world to see if you have “proof”

[Old_Mac_Donald]

@equestrian_101

then post for the world to see if you have “proof”

QFP

[FitzE]

Why don’t you leave your posts ‘for all the world to see’? What’s up with the dirty deletes?

[Jealoushe]

So the other video is allegedly showing a horse flipping over and injuring its head to the point of needing sutures? and I’m guessing this is due to AMs actions? If this is the case then it’s even more mind boggling nothing has been done by FEI.

[Djones]

Why would AM be reliant on his vet partner to give a horse dex? Lots of us have dex on hand for various reasons. Mine is for a horse with RAO.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

It’s not so much about reliance. It’s about whether or not the partner, who is a vet, has firsthand knowledge that medications and treatments were being used to cover up abuse.

Most states have rules for licensed veterinarians obligating them to report abuse, not help cover it up.

[wanderlust]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

It’s not so much about reliance. It’s about whether or not the partner, who is a vet, has firsthand knowledge that medications and treatments were being used to cover up abuse.

I find these attempts to disavow the partner’s knowledge of AM’s misconduct specious at best. My poor non-horsey husband who doesn’t even like horses still knows every single training hiccup/success, physical malady and everything between as relates to my horses. It kind of defies belief that someone’s life partner/veterinarian would not have some level of awareness of how those horses are managed and what medical treatment they may have been given.

[beowulf]

@wanderlust

I find these attempts to disavow the partner’s knowledge of AM’s misconduct specious at best. My poor non-horsey husband who doesn’t even like horses still knows every single training hiccup/success, physical malady and everything between as relates to my horses. It kind of defies belief that someone’s life partner/veterinarian would not have some level of awareness of how those horses are managed and what medical treatment they may have been given.

Something that occurred to me, though the thought was unspeakably vile, is whether or not AM treats his SO the way he treats his horses. That would add a layer of complexity to this already fraught situation. I don’t have enough information to make judgment calls either way re: his SO’s complicity. But we do know AM is guilty of abuse - that much is blatantly evident from videos.

Regarding involvement of SOs in your horsey life, I’d be reluctant to lump everyone in the same boat based on MY relationship, as everyone’s is different.

My opinion of the vet’s complicity could change at any moment as more evidence comes to light.

[trubandloki]

@wanderlust

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

It’s not so much about reliance. It’s about whether or not the partner, who is a vet, has firsthand knowledge that medications and treatments were being used to cover up abuse.

I find these attempts to disavow the partner’s knowledge of AM’s misconduct specious at best. My poor non-horsey husband who doesn’t even like horses still knows every single training hiccup/success, physical malady and everything between as relates to my horses. It kind of defies belief that someone’s life partner/veterinarian would not have some level of awareness of how those horses are managed and what medical treatment they may have been given.

@beowulf said it better than I had while I got distracted with other things so I deleted most of my thoughts. Very well said on all points Beowulf.

I just want to say @wanderlust, feel lucky that your spouse is so involved and do not assume that all people have the same life as you do.

Do not base decisions on assuming it is the same for all.

[Mondo]

@beowulf

Regarding involvement of SOs in your horsey life, I’d be reluctant to lump everyone in the same boat based on MY relationship, as everyone’s is different.

This. When I was married, my husband almost NEVER came to the barn, shows, etc. Once, he came to the barn with me (I don’t recall why) and as we drove up the driveway he pointed to a big grey horse in the pasture and said, “that’s a pretty horse. Who does he belong to?” Yeah, it was my horse. So everyone’s experience can be different.
That said though, if your SO is also your vet…well that does imply a degree of inside knowledge.

[anonevent]

They created that account 6 days ago and post exclusively on this thread, perhaps that’s a clue as to why they don’t leave their posts up.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Mondo

That said though, if your SO is also your vet…well that does imply a degree of inside knowledge

A vet, and a rider who actually participates in the sport of eventing and trains with AM.

[Scaramouch]

In the realm of people who may be directly implicated here, what about the owners? It did not sound like Plain Dealing Farm had any horses with him when the videos came out, and he hasn’t shown any of theirs since the spring. So unless I’m missing something, none of Andrew’s current owners has said a thing: either to stand by him/make excuses or to the effect that they’re just as shocked as everyone else (except oddly few people in the area are) and have moved their horses. And of his current competition horses, three of them are owned by the same person. So it’s starting to feel like they’re hoping this will all blow over and Andrew can continue on as he has.

[wanderlust]

@trubandloki

I just want to say @wanderlust, feel lucky that your spouse is so involved and do not assume that all people have the same life as you do.

I’m not assuming anyone has the same life. My personal anecdote aside,

I find it wild that the alleged partner of AM, who is an equine vet, reportedly AM’s vet, and also reportedly a long-time student of AM, would be clueless as to what has reportedly been going on for the better part of a decade. That’s all.

[TXnGA]

Medal-winning rider appealing eight-month suspension over training video

Maybe there is hope TPTB will actually do something against AM

[libgrrl]

One of the horses in the videos that were circulating was owned by Plain Dealing Farm. They have spoken out on Facebook.

[Scaramouch]

Right, but the videos are months old. Part of PDF’s statement was that their horses were “safe at home with us.” Ergo, their horse wasn’t in Andrew’s barn when the videos became public.