There are more videos, but they haven’t been posted online. They are part of the evidence that was provided to USEF and FEI
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That’s all well and good-
But SO didn’t always work a 9-5 in a vet office. For many years he worked just as a chiro/ acupuncture Nd made his own hours, and some travel work for an equine vet. Working where he works currently happened relatively recently within the last few year(s).
Well, how would I know- he worked on my horses a few times for chiro/ acupuncture.
And I was the one who knows and has stated here-
The videos released on SM are tame compared to what was sent to the PTB- including the one where the SO is heard.
His SO is always with him at shows and most traveling AM does… so there is that.
And there are also videos of him abusing his dogs.
But do go on…
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Cameron (since he’s already been named in this thread) has worked for Brezeway in his current capacity since he finished vet school in 2018. Before that he was in vet school and interning with Bri. None of that is inconsistent with him doing chiro and acupuncture obviously, and either way arguments based on what we imagine his specific working hours to be are just silly.
Without further evidence, all anyone can do re: the extent to which Cameron was aware of Andrew’s behavior, whether or not he’s culpable in covering it up, or what toxic dynamics are or are not at play in that relationship is speculate. If we’re going down that road I would wonder how many other vets see Andrew’s horses (because how many pros with two 5* horses just use one vet?) on a somewhat routine basis?
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I was on the phone with someone who told me about this specific unreleased video. Complete with knowledge of the horse’s injuries I haven’t seen shared (here, at least) and mentioned the vet speaking during it. This person has absolutely no reason to lie, so - I guess I’m just offering further support for this being the truth, even though I haven’t seen it.
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ughhhhh the dogs too? FFS
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It’s not a public video.
That’s a completely unfair categorization of the witnesses. They didn’t release material because they were trying to leverage due process. Haven’t we been over this?
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it’s been posted other places not just CoTH. Not saying it’s legit just wanted to clarify that.
I think whoever has that video is not the same person who released the other videos on social media.
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No one is obligated to “show you the video” or else you won’t believe it. No one cares if you believe it or not.
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Am I the only one thinking the above poster is either very, very close to the vet or they are the vet? Some strident demands being made.
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This is horrific. If this is true (and, from the videos we have seen, I’ve no reason to think it isn’t) then the FEI and USEF should be on notice to hand down the strongest possible sanction they have or those videos will go public as well. Knowing they’ve seen worse and have done nothing makes this orders of magnitude worse.
Those poor horses and dogs.
You are wrong. The other (reportedly worse) videos have been submitted to the USEF and FEI. The people reporting specifically did NOT go the ‘public release’ method but, instead, tried to do the right thing and go through proper channels to report. No one has those to post for you - they are in the hands of the whistleblower(s) and the organisations to which they were reported.
Unfortunately, TPTB taught them and everyone paying attention that they will do sweet FA until someone else releases them publicly and gets SM in an uproar. An unforced error on the part of the governing bodies and I suspect going forward more people will go the SM route first as at least it gets traction, whereas following the rules and working within the system gets the little guy whistleblow blown off while the BNT or BNR experiences zero consequences. And swans off to Burghley, in this case, with a wallet fat with USEA funding.
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Wow, and a panicked flurry of dirty deletes as well!! 
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Dang! And here I had the video already to post for them. 
No 
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goes the houseguest.
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then post for the world to see if you have “proof”
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QFP
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Why don’t you leave your posts ‘for all the world to see’? What’s up with the dirty deletes?
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So the other video is allegedly showing a horse flipping over and injuring its head to the point of needing sutures? and I’m guessing this is due to AMs actions? If this is the case then it’s even more mind boggling nothing has been done by FEI.
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Why would AM be reliant on his vet partner to give a horse dex? Lots of us have dex on hand for various reasons. Mine is for a horse with RAO.
It’s not so much about reliance. It’s about whether or not the partner, who is a vet, has firsthand knowledge that medications and treatments were being used to cover up abuse.
Most states have rules for licensed veterinarians obligating them to report abuse, not help cover it up.
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I find these attempts to disavow the partner’s knowledge of AM’s misconduct specious at best. My poor non-horsey husband who doesn’t even like horses still knows every single training hiccup/success, physical malady and everything between as relates to my horses. It kind of defies belief that someone’s life partner/veterinarian would not have some level of awareness of how those horses are managed and what medical treatment they may have been given.
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