Animal Communicator?

Not sure how to feel about this, one way or another, but as a horse owner couldn’t help but think ‘I wonder what my mare would tell a complete stranger.’ Low and behold, I stuck with the article long enough to read the last question, a horse owner wanting to know why her horse stopped eating and drinking all of a sudden.

Has anyone ever gotten someone to communicate with their horse? If so, do share your experience. What beans did your horse spill? I must say that, even as a skeptical person, I’m jealous of the thought of anyone being able to communicate with animals as this article describes.

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There are lots of threads on this haha please save us all the bloodshed.

Buried somewhere in them is the story of the day an animal communicator came to my yard

But more recently I had a woman contact me about a sales horse. I Google stalk anyone who contacts me about a horse. This woman was a pet psychic, and one of those who works over the phone.

And I couldn’t help but think why do you have any questions for me, surely your psychic connection with my horse will tell you if he’s the one

I’m a bad person. But fyi my heart horse refused to communicate. We both have a low tolerance for shenanigans.

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Oh no, don’t mean to run this topic into the ground if it’s already been hashed out a million times here. This literally appeared in my inbox today and I couldn’t go without sharing! :no:

It’s an interesting phenomenon. Your experience is very…interesting, much like this guy in the article that helps locate lost animals over the phone or via email. Like, how does that work!? Your horse ‘refused to communicate,’ haha!

I did it just for fun. Some things were correct, some weren’t. I probably wouldn’t do it again, but if you have the money to do it, it’s entertaining

There may be some scammers out there among the AC world. If someone runs into a scammer, it does not mean all ACs are scammers.

I was at a talk for work this week where the speaker was emphasizing how modern medical science ignored and even deliberately discounted mind/body connection until recent decades. Now modern science is making medicine all about the mind/body connection. So just because science says NO to something existing does not make it so, or does not mean science itself will not reverse that view.

When I was a kid, I had an experience that make it very difficult to discount the possibility of AC communication— and after all-- horses, dogs, etc, do communicate with each other SOMEHOW–and it is not entirely body language. Anyway, I was home with a house filled with visitors and family during the Christmas period. My dog had followed my mother who had walked to the grocery store-- and was hit by a car and died. I became hysterical, screaming and crying that my dog was dead-- but this was before anyone came to tell me,before my mom and the dog’s body were driven to the house by a strange car. This happened in a house filled with people, so there were plenty of witnesses to what I was saying and the timing of events. I don’t know how I knew, but I knew.

Let me tell you, it was scary and upsetting to have that knowledge of the event in that way. The whole house cleared out after my mom and the dog arrived, many people looking at me oddly.

That is not the only incident I have had like that, but it is one where there were witnesses to it-- which is not always the case, I bring that one up here because of the people who were there to see. Because of incidents like those, it is impossible for me to discount that there are some ACs who are legitimate and that horses might be able to communicate with them in images. These incidents are not ones I seek out, as said, it is something I find at times uncomfortable. I don’t talk about it much, I surely would not hold myself out as an AC.

But is it possible to get communication distantly, a sort of telepathy,from people and animals? In my life experience, yes, oh yes.

Not something I seek out or actively want to experience. But yes. In my own experience, even as a perhaps reluctant recepient, oh yes, that sort of communication can and does occur.

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Animal Communicator Test

Requires a deck of cards.

Place the Communicator in a position where they have “communication” with your animal but are not in “line of sight.” This can be in a separate room, behind a stall wall, or simply with their back to the animal (and no reflective surfaces in the area).

Once “communication” is confirmed take the deck of cards, shuffle them, and cut the deck. Place the cut card in front of the animal so that it is clearly visible to it. Then ask the Communicator to identify the card. If they can do that, pay them. If not, tell them to cop a walk.

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While I do believe it’s possible, I also believe the majority are charlatans. I think this is a real shame, REAL AC could be helpful in troubled situations. However, most get scammed, they don’t realize and tout it.

I am curious about one thing, I have a BAT CRAP CRAZY dog, I have known her since the day she came home from the pet store (no flaming, not my choice), if the AC comes up with stuff that never happened, do I have to pay her???

PS - Tho after telling her just how very wrong she is, I might just pay her for the entertainment!!

PPS - Why do I assume “her”?

A “real” AC could win $1million from the Jame Randi Educational Foundation, and yet none have. The usual excuses are “I don’t need to prove myself.” (Yes, you do.) Or “I don’t need the money.” Then why do they charge for their “services?” They could even donate the money to a horse rescue…yet none of these people want to even try… I wonder why? Fear of failure/exposure??

Uh oh…here we go again :o

Honestly, all it is really is money. At the very least, if you think it is worth the price in entertainment value, go for it. I did it once and found it to be very interesting.

I would approach such a thing with open skepticism. It might be possible, and at the same time, it is also possible to be scammed. As I said in my earlier post, the fact of scammers does not invalidate the possibility-- it only is a sad reflection on human nature that scamming exists.

In previous discussions, peer reviewed academic scientific articles were offered to those who wanted scientific proof of things such as telepathy and kinesis. As I recall, that discussion degenerated with personal insults being offered to try to disregard the articles provided.

Thanks, COTH, you now remind me I need to learn to use the ignore option.

There is a very popular animal communicator near me. I had her talk with my horse and my dog one day, and have a number of acquaintances who have used her, but as far as I know, no critters have gossipped (Is that a word?) which seems like what you are asking (spilling beans).

I have quite effective communication with my own animals, as I’ve had them both for around 10 years and we know each other well. So I was not surprised by anything she shared, but much of what she said were not things that the average person would have known, having just met us.

At the time, my horse was about to be reunited with a horse he’d lived with several years before, so I asked how he felt about this other horse. All he had to say was “he’s not very smart.” In fact I’ve often described that other horse as having a learning disability!

One of the coolest things related to me about her was that she shared that a friends horse was having a hard time seeing, and said that was why she was raising and lowering her head a lot, particularly on trails. Friend had vet take a look, and their were indeed lesions on the eyes that were then lasered off.

In general, I think that “animal communication” is easy to fake, and I’ve witnessed some instance were I feel certain that was exactly what was happening, but I don’t disbelieve the possibility.

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Animal Communicator Test

Requires a deck of cards.

Place the Communicator in a position where they have “communication” with your animal but are not in “line of sight.” This can be in a separate room, behind a stall wall, or simply with their back to the animal (and no reflective surfaces in the area).

Once “communication” is confirmed take the deck of cards, shuffle them, and cut the deck. Place the cut card in front of the animal so that it is clearly visible to it. Then ask the Communicator to identify the card. If they can do that, pay them. If not, tell them to cop a walk.

G.[/QUOTE]

Yahbut, how’s a horse supposed to know which card is which? Its not like they sit around the barn at night playing poker.

The language thing always gets me. How does an animal “tell” you anything? Do Dutch warmbloods speak Dutch? Hanovers German?

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There may be some scammers out there among the AC world. If someone runs into a scammer, it does not mean all ACs are scammers.

I was at a talk for work this week where the speaker was emphasizing how modern medical science ignored and even deliberately discounted mind/body connection until recent decades. Now modern science is making medicine all about the mind/body connection. So just because science says NO to something existing does not make it so, or does not mean science itself will not reverse that view.

When I was a kid, I had an experience that make it very difficult to discount the possibility of AC communication— and after all-- horses, dogs, etc, do communicate with each other SOMEHOW–and it is not entirely body language. Anyway, I was home with a house filled with visitors and family during the Christmas period. My dog had followed my mother who had walked to the grocery store-- and was hit by a car and died. I became hysterical, screaming and crying that my dog was dead-- but this was before anyone came to tell me,before my mom and the dog’s body were driven to the house by a strange car. This happened in a house filled with people, so there were plenty of witnesses to what I was saying and the timing of events. I don’t know how I knew, but I knew.

Let me tell you, it was scary and upsetting to have that knowledge of the event in that way. The whole house cleared out after my mom and the dog arrived, many people looking at me oddly.

That is not the only incident I have had like that, but it is one where there were witnesses to it-- which is not always the case, I bring that one up here because of the people who were there to see. Because of incidents like those, it is impossible for me to discount that there are some ACs who are legitimate and that horses might be able to communicate with them in images. These incidents are not ones I seek out, as said, it is something I find at times uncomfortable. I don’t talk about it much, I surely would not hold myself out as an AC.

But is it possible to get communication distantly, a sort of telepathy,from people and animals? In my life experience, yes, oh yes.

Not something I seek out or actively want to experience. But yes. In my own experience, even as a perhaps reluctant recepient, oh yes, that sort of communication can and does occur.[/QUOTE]

I do think that there are unexplained things that happen in situations where people, or people and animals, have strong, long-term emotional bonds. I also think these experiences are going to be stronger for people who have lower emotional barriers between themselves and the world; children definitely have lower emotional barriers than adults. And some adults are more “porous,” more affected by the emotional states of others, than those of us who have worked to wall ourselves off from the chaos and anxiety that is other people :).

I’ve had moments where I’ve realized I am somehow “sharing” the feelings of my horse, which is different from just recognizing how the horse is feeling.

I also lived in a haunted house once, but that’s a digression . . . .

But I don’t trust anyone who thinks they can do this at a distance, over the telephone, from a photo, or who imports human thought processes to describe what an animal is thinking or feeling or saying. It’s possible that the people that try this do have an ability to absorb feelings in person, with their own animals, etc., and have convinced themselves they can do it at a distance. But that doesn’t mean they really can.

One of the pre-requisites for this kind of empathy is having lowered barriers to the world. Lowered barriers to the point that you don’t have a lot of defense against feeling other people’s (or animals’) anger, anxiety, sadness, or of course enthusiasms. But the problem is that having lowered barriers like this is going to make you much less “stable” in the terms we currently hold for functional adults. You are always going to be blown hither and yon by reacting to other people. And you may not always be totally clear, even to yourself, about your own motivations and feelings and abilities.

So, no, I do not believe in professional animal communicators. I would rather get in the vet, the chiro, the saddle-fitter, who can tell me what’s hurting. And spend time on the ground getting into rapport with my horse, so I know what she’s feeling.

That doesn’t mean I discount all reports of odd emotional/communicative experiences. But I don’t think you can have those experiences on demand, or in regard to people and animals that you don’t already have a bond with.

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Yahbut, how’s a horse supposed to know which card is which? Its not like they sit around the barn at night playing poker.

The language thing always gets me. How does an animal “tell” you anything? Do Dutch warmbloods speak Dutch? Hanovers German?[/QUOTE]

Yep, I read the article and my husband and I had the same conversation. So when they communicate in words they, what, know English?

Tried it once, a lady recommended by a boarder. Went in as a skeptic, but also hoping for help with a specific issue.

Not a thing she told me was close to correct.

My family has used it with various dogs and cats, and we’ve been pretty thrilled with the various information we’ve gotten. My mom made great headway with her dog and cat after they both seemed to have lost their minds after a move. I’d love to do it with my horses, though I’m not sure I’d want to know what they think…they’re both pretty salty characters.

There was an AC at Equine Affaire in Mass. several years ago. She had us give a photo of our horse to a stranger - no friends allowed - and we spent several minutes holding the photo and concentrating on it. Mine went to a couple from Rhode Island. I have a sabino Paint gelding known around the barn as Speckles (Mr Eternal Fun) partly because I saw it twice in his pedigree and he really is speckled. So the couple tells me he doesn’t think his barn name is dignified. He also complained about not having any friends. He’s the alpha gelding so it’s no wonder. They saw red close to him, and I was using a red saddle pad. I don’t remember the 4th thing. But we still call him Speckles regardless of what he thinks. He’s a great horse, has done everything from therapy lessons to beach rides and everybody loves him. He seems a little friendlier to some of his pasture mates, now that he’s getting older. It was a little too weird for comfort. I think it’s mostly bushwah, but it was fun, and the price was right.

I used one years ago, she was highly regarded on UDBB.

I have to say that she was good! Several things she mentioned were dead on and there is no way she could have known any of it.
I’ve been to psychics, so I knew not to give too much info, let them do the talking and give little feedback.

She first talked about my geldings personality, she was spot on.
She said he felt something scratching him under his saddle. I had recently bought him a new pad that had wool on the underside.
She mentioned a grey mare that had recently died tragically with a lot blood in the barn. She said that my gelding was upset that he didn’t get to basically say goodbye to her, that no one really liked the mare and he was sad about her passing.
Well, yes a couple weeks prior a grouchy grey mare died suddenly and tragically. She was pregnant with twins and lost them, lots of blood and hysteria everywhere.

I walked my gelding to her gravesite to say goodbye, just in case the psychic was right.

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I am bidding on a session as an auction fundraiser item. It goes to a good cause, and I’ve always been curious - like GucciJumper said, I’m going into it with no other goal than being entertained. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised. Will report back if I win it.

I am sort of intuitive and have been able to get stuff from animals both from afar and in person, but it’s random and I don’t do it in any prescribed way. I can’t turn it on and do a “reading” like many can.

I have used ACs several times, it’s 100% accurate and helps me understand on a different level, but it is not a substitute for vet care or training. It complements it.

It’s usually words and pictures and doesn’t come like your other info that you receive.

I’m a scientist with a high degree of skepticsm, imagine my suprise when I started hearing things from hoses, randomly, with no context.

I didn’t ask for it, I just some how developed my curiosity about the world and was in a place where I could receive it.

I haven’t been in a place to get messages lately, I am stressed out.

So not everyone is a good person who does this, and not all are real.

But those who are are valuable if you are into that sort of thing. I dislike those who charge a lot of money and get an ego about their skills.

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