Will the session be recorded and posted subsequently?
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I purchased helmet #2 after this survey came out. I ordered it in a Med. Helmet arrived today & runs small, just an FYI.
I currently have a OneK & a Kep in a 56. Thought I could use another for the new 3 yr old. Not bad looking, but even with the dial it doesnât fit.
@vxf111 @Paks @WNT @Mountainbellls
- YES it will be recorded. BUT we ask for people to register to be assured of receiving the link to the webinar AND THE recording as well. And that registration is where you can add YOUR questions.
Link is here: https://forms.gle/YzHZPViCP2x56vb8A
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Youâd be surprised that there are NOT 700+ individual questions. There are a LOT of repeats and for sure we are doing our best to try to answer the heart of the questions I have received.
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Thank you @Poltroon. Itâs been a LOT of cat herding and I am still working through some moments/time to bring my knowledge up to par in order to moderate this in a respectable way by tomorrow night. I have learned a lot but I am by no means an expert on helmet testing, but I think learning more and being a layperson works together for the purposes of bringing the real commentary to real people.
If people have more comments, questionsâŠhit me up. I am TRYING to keep an eye on all the relevant posts on the interwebs. Iâm also trying to do a lot of recon and Zoom lessons tonight.
So weâll see how it all shakes out. I am a bit nervous to do it right, but I know how important this is to ask Barry the questions beyond what the other articles and podcasts, interviews have covered.
Stay tuned. This could be interesting. LOL.
Em
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The webinar with Dr. Miller tomorrow night at 7pm, EST Link is here. PLEASE spread the word. We have a concern that the emails to the registrants MIGHT go to spam filters due to my surname. 
That said, I am still trying to send them, in small batches.
The âdoorsâ will open at 7pm. Barry will start a bit after. We are trying allow time for everyone to log in and get settled with their computer and work through any tech issues.
There are 700+ people at this moment. That means, we will need you to hang tight and add your thoughts and questions to the chat window. I PROMISE I will do my best to navigate through all of this but thereâs a real possibility that not every exact question will get asked. I am trying to answer the âheartâ of each question as there are NUMEROUS repeats. I am studying ALL of the submitted questions. Thankfully they all have mostly landed in one of 6-8 categories with very few exceptions.
The folks from MIPS are also in the process of scheduling a webinar with us soon. Some questions that might be better suited only to them, may end up being redirected to that event as its more likely to get a cohesive answer from the MIPS developers themselves.
If it helps, and youâre on top of your email/online calendars, I can try to send calendar links. Just reply with your email and I will give it a whirl.
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Many thanks,
Emily
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Whatâs spammy about your last name?!
Daignault-Salvaggio
Itâs 18 letters long, hyphenated and foreign
I have had trouble for a LONG time.
Em
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I had no idea. Mine is plenty long but not hyphenated and I havenât run into that issue. Who knew?!
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Slightly (ok REALLY) off topic, but I love that you included the âthe microphone and camera will be turned off and nothing is wrongâ. It reminds me of all the zoom snafus Iâve encountered either personally or watching others. The most notable one that comes to mind is the lawyer with the (inadvertent) cat filter on his zoom call. If you havenât seen it yet, itâs a must watch.
Ok, back to helmets
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@Rnichols This is awesome and helping. I am at work now and doing my job but thinking of things I need to write down or KNOW before 7pm tonight.
Itâs a long list and it could be stress influenced.
#notanexpert
#soundprofessional
#bethelaypersonitsok
Em
Wonderful webinar. Thank you so much Emily/xctrygirl for organizing it.
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I wish I had been able to see the webinar. Will there be a way to see it or a written version?
I also would love a replay or a transcript!
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We have a recorded version that will be made public once I edit out the beginning chatting etc. Likely tonight or tomorrow.
Transcript is not something I have readily available. Anyone with a stenography background is more than welcome to have a crack at it 
Also hereâs the bigger newsâŠ
Next Tuesday 12/20/22⊠We will be having another Webinar at 7pm EST. With a representative from MIPS!!!
This is a big deal because thatâs 2AM their time. But they do want to talk to us.
Registration for that event is here:
Weâre altering this slightly so that you can register and be guaranteed to have confirmations for the link to Zoom.
In addition you can (and should) submit any questions that you have for the MIPS representatives here at this Google Form. (Which will also send you a confirmation email when youâre done)
I hope youâre enjoy this onslaught of helmet folks to talk to. Lots of exciting things to discuss.
Em
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It definitely was a very interesting talk! Particularly the discussion about the importance of helmet fit - leaves a lot to think about.
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I think the idea that you may not get much (if any) additional benefit from MIPs if you ride with your hair up, and the idea that helmet fit does not matter so long as your helmet stays on your head were the two ideas I was most taken aback by. It would be really interesting to see research on these topics in the future.
Re: wearing hair in a helmet, I wonder if there are other sports where athletes put their hair in their helmet? I canât think of any off the top of my head. Obviously they have hair under a helmet, but the sports that come to mind as having their helmets studied (football, cycling, skiing) all wear long hair down and out the back of a helmet I believe.
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For sure there were a fair share of ideas that might be newer to our thought processes.
Dr. Miller has weighed in before on âhunter hairâ and this is what he said then:
"A preferred hair style would be smooth and contoured to the head and thus avoid a big protrusion in the back or on top which could substantially alter the fit. Hair is pretty compliant and likely smooths out and pats down once you put the helmet on. The âfanningâ and use of hair net procedures in the video seem to be a very reasonable approach that accomplishes a smooth and contoured fit. So if you wear your hair up then fit your helmet to that style; you donât want it tight and uncomfortable.
The primary concern and most important aspect of the helmet fit is that it remains in place for that initial impact. During that initial impact you want your helmet to attenuate energy and âde-coupleâ from your head and thus move a little independently so it doesnât take your head with it; even for just a millisecond. This extends the impact duration, reduces head movements, and flattens the acceleration curves which in turn reduces concussion risk.
Hair and your scalp act as a natural slip plane and thus helps de-couple your head and helmet which is a good thing. It wonât help much with the linear accelerations but certainly helps with the rotational kinematics by allowing the helmet to move more freely from your head during and impact. MIPS and other rotational technologies try to do the same thing (de-couple). It is difficult to say if any of these add any benefits over and above a full head of hair and may likely be very specific to the location and energy of a given impact. "
Video that I sent to him to explain hunter hair and what it looks like:
I also ran his response by @RAyers and his layperson definition was that Hunter Hair is more of a problem in a helmet equipped with MIPS or other Slip Plane devices. Less of a problem with helmets not equipped with MIPS.
Em
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Iâve been in need of a new helmet, but on a somewhat limited budget due to a recent divorce (ugh). I was pleasantly surprised to see that #2 on the list was very affordable (the TuffRider Carbon Fiber). Ordered one shortly after the study came out, and it was delivered today. I would say I have a fairly average-shaped head, and it fits well! On sizing, I measured my head and ordered according to the size chart (M), and it is sized appropriately. Happy to provide pictures if anyone is considering this helmet and would like a closer look at anything specific.
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It just blows my mind that for years weâve had the âdonât put your hair up in hunter hair because it makes helmets fit poorlyâ now weâve moved to âhunter hair for all!â
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I donât think they make a helmet big enough to contain mine!
