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I had no idea gender affected taste. Interesting.[/QUOTE]
Guess you’ve never experienced boar taint…
It’s not that hard to find homegrown beef, though. Not even grass fed, organic beef is hard to find. Please quote me where I said he should just go to the grocery store and buy something from Walmart?
I don’t like the petition is stupid. They want to save the heifer. Cool. He should let them buy her and be done with it. Problem solved.
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Guess you’ve never experienced boar taint…[/QUOTE]
Since I don’t eat boar… nope.
An adult unaltered animal would affect taste, sure, but I’ve never heard of a castrated male causing the same affect.
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Guess you’ve never experienced boar taint…[/QUOTE]
Since I don’t eat boar… nope.
An adult unaltered animal would affect taste, sure, but I’ve never heard of a castrated male causing the same affect.
Boar taint can show up in sausage when someone sneaks a boar in, it’s not just from “eating boar.”
Bulls are the toughest and what McDonald’s buy.
Heifers are tenderer.
Grass fed is better.
We have Bazadais. You don’t need teeth to eat Bazadais beef.
It is fat free. There is no marbling. Yet it is tender.
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I had no idea gender affected taste. Interesting.[/QUOTE]
Age does more.
And a cow is nothing but personal property whether it’s got a name or not. It sounds like they did not in any way misrepresent. This is Minnie, the bovine (whether or not they went into why it’s apparently a defective cull, I’ve never heard of that malformation but you learn something new on COTH every day), and someday he/she/it will be hamburgers. If that horribly traumatizes some visitor, they’re free not to come back or to offer whatever price the property owner deems fair.
And historic sites? LOL. We have to be REALLY tactful about what’s going to happen, and yes, we all for the most part name animals. I remember when Firestone Farm got pigs (also when I learned pig manure is the worst thing ever and I want nothing to with it) and IIRC, they had names. People liked looking at them. And then they’d be gone at the end of the season and they’d be doing meat canning or something. In our case, we’re getting chickens this year. Which I’m sure we’ll all get attached to and think are cute. And at the end of the season most of any that remain are going in the pot, and we’ll be honest about that, but we’re not going to lie and pretend they’re just Chicken 1, Chicken 2, etc. (This is of course assuming that being semi-free-range we don’t come in one morning and find them shredded by wildlife. THAT will be a fun talking point…)
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Bulls are the toughest and what McDonald’s buy.
Heifers are tenderer.
Grass fed is better.
We have Bazadais. You don’t need teeth to eat Bazadais beef.
It is fat free. There is no marbling. Yet it is tender.[/QUOTE]
Well I always try to buy grass-fed at either Whole Foods, Plum Market, or the farmer’s market. I used to be able to get grass-fed locally from a woman who raised Black Angus at the summer farmer’s market near my barracks and she even had rose veal. Unfortunately, I never got the chance to cook it, but I might try to find it here if this summer’s market in MI has it available.
I like to experiment. I bought rabbit from her once and did a Dijon mustard dish from it.
If you get meat chickens you have to cull them by week whatever. Otherwise they get too big for their legs and their heart gives out.
Which is what happens to the people who try to buy them to save them from the meanies.
Post 1 and post 203. Sell/give away the cow an “buy a dead one”. Though to be fair the nitwit quoted in the open did say Whole foods, not walmart. Of course at $5/# at whole foods, someone would have to offer in excess of 8 grand to make it worth the farmers time… if she didn’t alienate the farmer to to point where he would even entertain an offer.
I have no experience with rabbits. Rabbits are illegal in Queensland Australia. I presume you have heard of ‘the rabbit fence’?
The rabbit fence?
I know rabbits are a big problem in Australia, but didn’t realize there was a fence? Sounds interesting
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Post 1 and post 203. Sell/give away the cow an “buy a dead one”. Though to be fair the nitwit quoted in the open did say Whole foods, not walmart. Of course at $5/# at whole foods, someone would have to offer in excess of 8 grand to make it worth the farmers time… if she didn’t alienate the farmer to to point where he would even entertain an offer.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I said go buy a dead one. That’s it. Sell the heifer and go buy dead one. He’s a farmer. As if he doesn’t know others like himself. It wouldn’t cost him much of anything (and would save his business, appeasing the haters) if he sold her for her true market value.
I’m not the only one who suggested he should just go buy another cow either.
XD
Nope, but I know rabbits are pests and Australia has an infestation issue in some areas.
Freemartins are rare.
They must be twins = 1 per 100 births.
They must be female with a male twin.
so no more than 1 per 200 births, if that.
Farmers do not like freemartins so cows that twin are often culled.
I sort of doubt they have many freemartins in their herd, but who knows.
Why is it better to slaughter an unknown cow than a known cow.
Other than for PR to appease unreasonable fanatics?
Or is that reason enough for you? Peace at any price?
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Post 1 and post 203. Sell/give away the cow an “buy a dead one”. Though to be fair the nitwit quoted in the open did say Whole foods, not walmart. Of course at $5/# at whole foods, someone would have to offer in excess of 8 grand to make it worth the farmers time… if she didn’t alienate the farmer to to point where he would even entertain an offer.[/QUOTE]
It’s Ok, because if you can’t afford Whole Foods, you don’t deserve to eat anyhow!
Yes, sarcasm, the body’s natural response to st…
If I were him and I wanted to keep my business, yes. Sometimes that’s how it goes. Have you do not watch the news? Or read the newspaper?
Sometimes you even have to grasp change your business model to fit the changing cultural shifts lest be left behind or criticized!
To clear up some misconceptions
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Mature boar hogs produce a gamey, musky tasting meat. That is why when breeding boars are culled they are usually castrated and fed for a while before they are sent to slaughter. If you’ve ever eaten cheap sausage or bacon that tasted “off”, then it probably had some mature boar in it.
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Sex does not affect tenderness, age and feeding practices do. Tenderness is determined by muscle to fat ratio. Aged bulls will be tough as will aged cows because they have more muscle to fat.
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McDonald’s and other fast food outlets do not exclusively use bull beef. I believe McDonald’s uses a lot of dairy steers as they tend to be lean. A lot of hamburger is produced from aged bulls and cows. Often fat trimmed from finished cattle is mixed with the leaner beef to up the fat content of hamburger. A lot of older cattle also wind up in cold cuts and hot dogs.
To add to the taste and tenderness question:
There are genetic markers associated with more tender beef and the presence of them is a selling point for bull semen.
Just as veal is very mild flavored, older beef is generally more full-flavored up to a point. Eventually older beef is tougher.
Beef is also flavored by what the cattle eat and how fast they gain.
There are some hog raisers who claim to have taint-free lines of animals. Not sure I want to take the chance, myself.
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If I were him and I wanted to keep my business, yes. Sometimes that’s how it goes. Have you do not watch the news? Or read the newspaper?
Sometimes you even have to grasp change your business model to fit the changing cultural shifts lest be left behind or criticized![/QUOTE]
If the culture turns against using horse by riding them, or breeding specific breeds because there is an oversupply of Mustangs awating adoption; will you go down without a fight?
Oh, well. That was a fun time back when we had horses.
When a business model is unprofitable, it is wise to change it.
And there is no argument that marketing can change the façade of a business and the customer perception.
You still have to kill cattle if you choose to eat them - at least if you are humane.
