Any APHA, AQHA, or ApHC breeders on COTH?

Cahmon you are right … I have heard more than one person mention how the Pinto shows are much more fun. And I know there’s a big difference between the movement at the APHA or AQHA shows … I keep hoping though that if enough people get involved, maybe they will get away from that WP look. I don’t understand it and don’t understand how it ever came to be …

The NSBA is strongly influenced by the AQHA – but, I like the fact you can earn NSBA points at APHA or PtHA dual approved shows - more bang for your buck so to speak… I think the last couple of years the payout has been between $80 -$100 per pt earned. I also like the Youth program that once the kids turn 18, the points they have earned can be converted to $$ for college.

We also bred our first Arabian mare this year. There is a local club that has a good membership with many of them doing more Sporthorse events.

I think the Pinto club has gotten a lot more innovative … for example their Color Congress in November. I like the idea that the different ‘color’ associations are working together instead of everyone standing on their diva pedestal.

It’s all new to me, but I think there are a lot of people beginning to look for other arenas beside just the standard breed shows:)

We have been selectively breeding appalosa sporthorses. Crossing a well bred sport-type 100% color producing black/white stallion, Wapuzzan on high quality TB and WB mares (other breeds as well). We are expecting a foal in May from this stallion and a lovely imported ISH, past 2 full siblings have been fantastic! Visit our site for more info: www.rugbycreeksporthorses.com ENJOY!

While I haven’t personally bred an APHA or AQHA mares to Cyriz, others have. He has 4 QH kids, who were all bred for eventing and the oldest are just getting under saddle.

He also has two APHA kids who are full siblings. The older is 4 and is already eventing at Novice. The younger is 2.

There’s also a LOUD black and white pinto out of an Art Deco/TB mare who is also 4 and going to be an eventer. He is a b/w replica of his daddy.

I am getting excited about a frame overo TB mare who was sent to me to be bred and then abandoned (I can only guess the economy). Due to the situation, she didn’t get bred this year, but I will breed her in the spring. She’s homozygous, so we’re guaranteed a colored TB! Never thought I’d be a colored TB breeder, but there you have it!

I talked to Mitma about breeding to Cyriz and hopefully after her Stravinsky baby arrives, she’s consider using Cyriz and then we’ll have an appy baby as well.

I don’t have any pics of these kids where I can link them easily, but will later.

How is she homozygous and frame? Homozygous frames are lethal whites.

My bad I guess, I don’t really know that much about all the color genetics…that’s just what I was told when the lady shipped her to me.

I breed a couple APHA/AQHA since my daughter was doing eventing and I love color…

here is my 2011 colt by Redwine
unfortunately I lost the mare to colic when colt was 7 weeks old…she was only 9, first foal, and the such a nice mare. The colt has the most AWESOME disposition…was supposed to be sold but am too attached.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1T5VjzJ6A

Here is the 2009 filly by Indian Artbeat (AQHA).
Prob the prettiest colored baby I have ever seen. Both mom and filly had a creme gene so were silver/slate in summer and darker in winter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=IL&feature=related&hl=en&v=mSCTGnFdb5M

I had looked at stallions to breed my mare to in future years and Sea Accounts was on the list. It would have been a nice cross for her.

I like the APHA with some TB since they get regular papers as opposed to the Appendix in AQHA.

Went to one APHA breed show and never returned. The people were great, horses were gorgeous, just didn’t like how they moved.

[QUOTE=cyriz’s mom;5969611]
My bad I guess, I don’t really know that much about all the color genetics…that’s just what I was told when the lady shipped her to me.[/QUOTE]

if she is a black frame perhaps she is homozygous for the black color? As noted…being HZ for frame is leathal.

Nope she’s not homo for black as she’s had both palomino and buckskin foals when bred to a double dilute.

I guess I’ll just have to keep my fingers crossed that I get color. So far, Cyriz has let the color come through on all the colored mares he’s been bred to.

Regardless, it should be a very nice huntery type TB.

[QUOTE=cyriz’s mom;5970885]
Nope she’s not homo for black as she’s had both palomino and buckskin foals when bred to a double dilute.

I guess I’ll just have to keep my fingers crossed that I get color. So far, Cyriz has let the color come through on all the colored mares he’s been bred to.

Regardless, it should be a very nice huntery type TB.[/QUOTE]

What is the breeding on the mare???

I had the APHA gelding Impressive Teddy who evented to two USEA Paint Horse of the Year awards, won against all company in open divisions and was Res. Prelim. Ch. in Area 1 one year. He went to intermediate level with John Williams but he and I were 2nd in the nation at novice as we developed Teddy’s career. We also did Open Jumpers, and the hunter classes numerous times at the World Paint Show, winning and placing consistently. I didn’t breed him (Greg Reisinger did) but he was Teddys Splash o/o Chocs Ms Impressive. Greg bred many APHA hunter types. I surely knew the breeding of all of the others when I was showing APHA for those many years. My Impressive Teddy was top dog dressage horse in APHA and placed at the Championships a few times, always placing well in the USDF All-Breed awards.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/start+the+rumors

She’s actually pretty well bred for a colored TB! LOL

Altamont Sport Horses

Altamont is showing one of her stallions this weekend, so probably hasn’t seen this thread. But you might enjoy looking at her sight to see some Color and Spots in the ring:) Nice horses.

[QUOTE=cyriz’s mom;5971373]
http://www.pedigreequery.com/start+the+rumors

She’s actually pretty well bred for a colored TB! LOL[/QUOTE]

She looks more like a splash and sabino Overo, not a classic frame. She could possibly be homozygous for splash. Homozygous sabino are also known as maximum sabinos and are generally all white. Has she been tested for the frame (LWO) gene?

ETA - I do think she is very pretty and I like her unusual markings :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=cyriz’s mom;5971373]
http://www.pedigreequery.com/start+the+rumors

She’s actually pretty well bred for a colored TB! LOL[/QUOTE]

I love the Axe/Buckpasser cross there

[QUOTE=bugsynskeeter;5971546]
She looks more like a splash and sabino Overo, not a classic frame. She could possibly be homozygous for splash. Homozygous sabino are also known as maximum sabinos and are generally all white. Has she been tested for the frame (LWO) gene?

ETA - I do think she is very pretty and I like her unusual markings :)[/QUOTE]

Racey Remarque, her sire, is a known frame TB…so is very likely frame and sabino.

We’ve been breeding “painted” pure TB’s for years, but do not target the APHA registry. If I did go with a colored registry is would be Pinto. I think they have better classes for the TBy type paints. We are also crossing the painted TB’s mares with our ISH stallion and had bred Jagged Illusion (17 hand painted TB stallion) on an ISH mare and got a “one of a kind” 3/4 TB - 1/4 Irish Draught who is a loud black/bay/white overo. I like “bling” on a nice horse!!

According to a former owner/breeder “Rumors” has been tested.

"2002 Dual Reg. Jockey Club TB & APHA Paint Dark Bay Frame Overo, Sabino and Rabicano overo filly! This filly carries three color genes and should be a strong color producer. She is DNA tested positive for the elusive frame overo gene. This was confirmed through DNA genetic testing that she carries the frame overo gene as well as the dilute gene. "

She is a pretty mare and it will be fun to see what she produces!!

I saw that. But since she’s a dark bay, how can she carry the dilute gene? Wouldn’t she have to be a paly or buckskin?

See, told you I wasn’t very good with all the dilute and colored stuff.

She has produced two paly sabinos, a buckskin overo and a paly overo (obviously bred to a double dilute).

Even if I don’t get color, I think Cyriz will cross really well with her.