Any new Appaloosa Sport Horse stallions around?

[DancingAppy]

Waps Rolls Royce is pretty high on my list. I’ve already contacted the owner of Cloverlone and waiting to hear back. I’ll have to look more into Pegasus and Wapuzzan.

I only have outdated pics of my girl. Most are from her 4 year old year when I bought her. I’m not a big picture taker, plus it’s hard to ride and take a picture at the same time!

Here’s the most current: Fanci at 8 years

From 4 years old:
Trot
Canter
Standing
Imma giraffe! (This was the first pic I took of her when she arrived in CA)

She’s my baby and the culmination of a 4 year search for an Appy Sport Horse. If I get an exact copy, I’d be over the moon.

[showhorsegallery]

If all goes according to plan I will be breeding my mare to Wapuzzan this coming breeding season for what I hope will be a Hunter/Jumper to keep for myself. I also considered Butterwap Confetti: http://www.confettifarms.com/Butterwap%20Confetti.htm

I had a hard time choosing between them.

[sportnhorse]

Looking at your mare, OP, my first choice of an Appaloosa Sport Horse sire would be Wap’s Rolls Royce. He throws the huge hind end, gorgeous head and thick. long mane and tail.

I bought one of his daughters back in 2009 and two weeks ago she gave me a stunning dressage filly. Both mom and daughter have delicate, Arabian-type heads and are very classy. Mom is very well built with an absolutely enormous hind end and powerful movement. She is also agile, fast and shows great promise over fences.
She won at our 2 biggest shows in SA in 2010, Horse of the Year All Breed Colts & Fillies 1-2yr olds and in her 2nd show went up against much older, seasoned, under saddle mares and beat them too in the All Breed classes

Rolls is known for his Hunter movement, but his daughter has excellent uphill movement and her filly (by my stallion Many Moons) is extremely uphill as are all Many Moons’ offspring.
You can take a look at the photo albums here : http://www.facebook.com/Leopard.Rock.Appaloosa.Stud The mare in question is ‘‘JG DIANA’’.

[appdream]

I have to agree with Sportnhorse. Looking at your mare and your wish list in the foal, I think that Waps Rolls Royce is a very good choice.

I can mention my stallion, Waps Applause. His get have competed in jumping, dressage and combined training. He would also give you what you are looking for.

Since I know both of these stallions and what they produce, I think Waps Rolls Royce would be slightly better choice.

[DancingAppy]

I agree. Waps Rolls Royce is on the top. What I worry with him is both him and my mare are very rectangular in shape. I’m worried of getting a long back with this cross. I also don’t think I’ll get the lengthening of the legs I want. I know no breeding will give me everything I want, and it’s still a crap shoot.

I will say I really like Waps Rolls Royce’s babies. I haven’t seen one I’d kick out my barn, so that’s a plus.

Right now, it’s between Waps Rolls Royce and Undertack. I love what both put on the ground. I had Undertack picked for a long time, but I’m concerned because 1) my mare is a maiden so I don’t know what she produces and 2) Undertack, while he has quite a few babies on the ground and I like all of them, he has never been crossed with sport horse mares, so he’s an unknown as well. So Waps has an up in that way.

I prefer the pedigree match in Undertack. It would be a line breeding to Turn-to in the 4th and 5th generations (I believe, I wrote this out a while back.) I love Turn-to. I also love that Undertack drives, shows he has the right mind I’m looking for. I’ve spoken with a breeder who has used him quite a bit and she believes they would be a good match.

If Cloverlone ever gets back to me, they would be in the top too. Those Holsteiner lines are fantastic driving lines.

[showhorsegallery]

[QUOTE=DancingAppy;6655425]
I agree. Waps Rolls Royce is on the top. What I worry with him is both him and my mare are very rectangular in shape. I’m worried of getting a long back with this cross. I also don’t think I’ll get the lengthening of the legs I want. I know no breeding will give me everything I want, and it’s still a crap shoot.

I will say I really like Waps Rolls Royce’s babies. I haven’t seen one I’d kick out my barn, so that’s a plus.

Right now, it’s between Waps Rolls Royce and Undertack. I love what both put on the ground. I had Undertack picked for a long time, but I’m concerned because 1) my mare is a maiden so I don’t know what she produces and 2) Undertack, while he has quite a few babies on the ground and I like all of them, he has never been crossed with sport horse mares, so he’s an unknown as well. So Waps has an up in that way.

I prefer the pedigree match in Undertack. It would be a line breeding to Turn-to in the 4th and 5th generations (I believe, I wrote this out a while back.) I love Turn-to. I also love that Undertack drives, shows he has the right mind I’m looking for. I’ve spoken with a breeder who has used him quite a bit and she believes they would be a good match.

If Cloverlone ever gets back to me, they would be in the top too. Those Holsteiner lines are fantastic driving lines.[/QUOTE]

If you want a sporthorse I think Waps Rolls Royce over Undertack is a no brainer.

[KC058]

I second Wapuzzan! Offspring are eventing. Contact owners for details… Excellent owners that will be happy to provide lots of sporthorse info. :winkgrin:

[mitma]

How important is “appy” color vs. performance or can you have both?

Your mare is quite a cutie! :yes:

First, let me ask you how important is appy or knab coloring to you?

Since she is heterozygous for the LP gene, IF you breed her to a stallion with the same genotype, i.e., LPlp, then the following will be the result:

25%LPLP, fewspot or snowcap
50%LPlp, any type of pattern could result depending on the presence of PATN genes, particularly PATN1… but, you may only get characteristics…
25%lplp, i.e., SOLID with no potential for any appy/knab coloring ever…

IF appy/knab coloring is paramount, then you should consider a fewspot or snowcap stallion, i.e., LPLP, and the resulting outcome would be:

50%LPLP, fewspot or snowcap
50%LPlp, any type of appy/knab pattern or characteristics…

IF color is not so important to you, then you can consider any type of stallion and I guess I think it would be prudent to look for stallions that are competing in/proving themselves in your discipline, combined driving, or some other discipline that could produce an offspring to compete well in your discipline… Maybe ???eventing??? :lol:

I tried to look up to see what horses, particularly stallions, are currently competing in combined driving and I got completely lost, so I will stick to what I know, dressage!

Personally, I have several Waps offspring, they are lovely horses, and a few of them have been great producers in my breeding program… Regarding performance, I have a 10 yo mare doing second level dressage, BUT, it IS a struggle for her due to her weak loin connection and slightly downhill build… she is sired by Wap Spot and out of the same TB mare who is the dam of Waps Rolls Royce, among many! Personally, if she had not had an injury when she was younger, which impacts her soundness and jumping capacity, she would have made a much nicer hunter… she does have a very “pretty” form over fences… Since I have a couple of doses of Hollywood Hot Spot, aka Woody, frozen semen in my tank, I have considered breeding her to him… the resulting foal would still be 1/2 TB by blood, and I would still have a pretty high liklihood of seeing a foal with appy color/characteristics (75% overall), AND, Woody will definitely help short this mare’s back and improve her loin connection!

I also have an offspring sired by Hollywood Hot Spot, out of a foundation bred appaloosa mare… He is a great young gelding, though, as a long yearling, is in a rather awkward growth state right now… :lol: He will make a very nice, all around sporthorse for a devoted amateur…

I have a young 4 yo stallion, Waps Limited Edition (Waps Applause x Waps Blizzard/Wap’s Reflection) who I think/hope will be an eventer… He has quite a nice jump and a really nice canter… his trot is mediocre now, but it is the gait that can improve the most with training, so train we do! But, his sire, Waps Applause, had a proven and winning performance career in hunters to 3’6" and dressage and his damsire, Wap’s Reflection, also had a great career in dressage… So, time will tell!

And, I have a couple of offspring sired by RDF Ti Kha Atta Rain, out of one of my wonderful Wap mares… Now, THESE babies are really awesome! I would repeat that breeding again and again, but Atta has been exported to Scotland…

In addition to my appaloosa breeding program, I also have TBs, warmbloods, and Knabstruppers…

Regarding Knabstrupper stallions here in the US, there are only a few to choose from… Kathy has already mentioned Colorado Skrodstrup, aka Fable, and I do think his excellent performance career, in addition to his awesome performance in the 70 day stallion test, makes him a serious contender for you mare. At least one other Knabstrupper stallion in the US also has a really nice performance career, Halifax Middelsom, and he is competing and winning at 3rd level dressage now and will be moving up the levels soon (www.knabstruppers4usa.com)… Oh and btw, earlier this year, Altamont Sport Horses acquired Ambrosius af Asgard, aka Atlantis, so when you talk to them about Hollywood Hot Spot, you can chat about Atlantis also!

Then, of course, there are a few stallions out there that are appaloosa/warmblood crosses… and, Cloverlone Farm is certainly one place to look at for these horses…

So, trully, you have many stallions to consider… But first, I would decide if color is important, and if not, then you should probably start another thread about what stallions are competing in or producing offspring competing well in combined driving!

Good Luck and keep us posted!

[Melyni]

There are a few other Knabstruppers available

Few Spots; I have Halifax Middelsom, he won’t add a lot of leg, but he does have a great hind limb and a good powerful loin connection. He will throw color as he is LP/LP and probably PATN1/PATN1.

Then there is Ravaldi who was himself a jumper and who is the sire of some really gorgeous horses, such as CCS Tinuvel (winning 1nst and 2nd level) Cita Normark (winner up to 3 rd level), and several others.
Ravaldi is available only through frozen, and we have just a few straws left!

Then there is Ecuador Skrødstrup, few spot full brother to Colorado, who competes in the jumpers in Denmark, I don;t know to what height. But I have 3 Ecuador offspring and they are all lovely movers and very nice temperaments.

I also have some frozen left from Apollon as does Sonesta I think and also Diane Truxillo has some Apollon.

So you have quite a few to choose from.

MW

[Altamont_Sport_Horse]

Hollywood Hot Spot

Thank you for mentioning my boy, Hollywood Hot Spot. The description of what you are looking for in a stallion sounds like “Woody” to a T. It feels strange to say that because I do not want to come across as making a “hard sell”. I will tell you about him and if you or anyone else in interested in learning more we can chat.

Woody is a “gelding with testicles” with a fantastic temperament. He is an extraordinarily well mannered stallion, pudding in the hands of children and a barn favorite everywhere he goes.

He doesn’t have many babies on the ground yet (4) but we bred him to three different types of mares here on our farm. Mitma has the fourth colt and I saw him only once before he was an awkward yearling. Unfortunately they are all in awkward growth stages right now but this is what we have seen so far in our offspring. Temperaments are just like Woody, very people-oriented and sensible from the time they hit the ground. In addition to the temperaments this is what we have seen Woody offer consistently – a prettier head, length of leg, short back, strong topline and loin connection and a powerful hind end.

I’m of the mindset that sport horses don’t need to be very tall so long as they fit the rider. Fortunately, there are more buyers looking for medium sized horses these days. I’ve not measured our two yearling colts (by Woody) in awhile but I did put the stick on them at 7 months and they were already 14.0hh and 14.1hh. We try to keep them lean so they don’t grow too fast or carry too much weight on an immature frame. They are good sized colts but they are not enormous.

We bred Woody to homozygous Appaloosa mares expecting that he could not consistently contribute color since he is half TB. He surprised us because he did contribute his color so we got all homozygous foals (bay few spot, bay dun snowcap, black near few spot). Nothing wrong with homozygous foals but I wished I had bred him to a heterozygous mare or two of my own. Mitma’s colt is a full leopard and out of a foundation leopard mare (heterozygous). We bred him to our young leopard mare, Waps A Daisy by Wap Spot, so we’ll see what he does with that heterozygous mare who also needs a shorter back and some refinement in her head. She is due in February 2013. Another observation about color - for an 8 year old Appaloosa Woody has had very little roaning; his color looks nearly the same as it did when he was a foal.

Woody is a very good jumper but we do not jump him. For awhile in his training he was off the farm and they free jumped him in the indoor arena when the weather was bad (he loved the jumping) and they would occasionally ride him over crosspoles just to add some variety to his routine. They were very enthusiastic about his jumping talent and wanted to jump him but I didn’t want him jumping under saddle, at least not yet. His first trail rides were with another stallion and Woody acted like an old pro. He walks into water, rides in wide open fields and goes out alone. We’ve not evented him but I think he would do well.

I wish I had some good video footage to show his movement especially when he was in shape. We have some video of him in good condition and under saddle but shortly thereafter we discovered he was having some saddle fit issues after he built up all that muscle. Although he was well behaved his discomfort is noticeable in his tail and movement.

We did not do much with Woody over the last year or so after we brought him home but that isn’t his fault. I would try to make some video now but he’s been at the clinic for awhile being collected and frozen so he has lost weight and muscle like many breeding stallions do. He is leggy, light on his feet, very lofty but still forward. As a weanling he was doing tempi changes for fun (show off!) and, no surprise, he learned his flying lead changes under saddle the very first time.

Woody elicits positive comments from dressage riders and trainers who say they’ve never seen an Appaloosa that moves like him or such a well mannered stallion even in the warm up ring with mares that are in season. Woody is definitely going back to work shortly and will start showing again in the Spring (dressage) along with our other spotted boy, Knabstrupper stallion [URL=“http://www.altamontsporthorses.com/ambrosiusafasgard.html”]. We bought a nice big trailer with stallion box stalls so we can take multiple stallions to the shows now.

Atlantis also produces the fantastic temperament that Knabstrupper fans adore. He is heterozygous but all his foals with color have been leopards, near leopards or suppressed leopards. He has a strong hind end, is a very good jumper and has plenty of other great features but he is a classic baroque type of stallion and therefore he does not have all of what you are looking to contribute to your mare. He has put about 30 foals on the ground and we know what he produces. For a modern sport horse type he crosses beautifully with leggy Warmblood, Thoroughbred or Appaloosa Sport Horse mares. His foals have scored well in their inspections. He has some foals on the West coast which were bred for driving (mares are Appaloosas and Appaloosa draft crosses).

There may be better stallion choices for your mare; we never can know for sure what a match will produce. Also, I’ve not looked for outside Appaloosa stallions for myself in a couple of years so I’m not sure what is new on the scene either. All I can say is that I believe Woody possesses the features you are looking for and with his relatively few offspring on the ground he seems to have made the same improvements you are looking for with your mare.

We are happy to have anyone visit our boys (and offspring) in person so they can evaluate conformation, movement and temperament with their own eyes. The stallions are all tested negative and vaccinated for EVA and are available with fresh cooled and frozen semen.

[Beentheredonethat]

mitma and melyni–Your expert input appreciated. I REALLY wants spots for a FEI dressage horse again. Mine are bays now. Since I just won the bid on the breeding to COlorado, what do you think are chances of color with upper level? Is it really only 50%, or do some have a higher average? I only see spotted offspring. And what would be the best choice for Colorado?

My mares are all super movers for dressage, mom is 4th PSG, bay, pain in the ass uptight temperament, 15.3 too small for me, SUPER pregnant and THE best broodmare. Daughters are by Freestyle, bay/black, 16.3ish super mellow and laid back, easy to train, never been bred.

Do they all have the same chance of color? I’m almost worried with daughters that they would be too mellow.

[DancingAppy]

@mitma

Your mare is quite a cutie!

Thank you! She’s my baby. It took me years to find her and it was one of those moments were you knew it was going to work out.

First, let me ask you how important is appy or knab coloring to you?

Not the be all end all, but I’d like to balance appy color with performance. If I just cared about performance, I’d go with a warmblood. But this baby is for me, and I would really like color. I can live with a 75% chance of color/characteristics.

IF color is not so important to you, then you can consider any type of stallion and I guess I think it would be prudent to look for stallions that are competing in/proving themselves in your discipline, combined driving, or some other discipline that could produce an offspring to compete well in your discipline… Maybe ???eventing???

I tried to look up to see what horses, particularly stallions, are currently competing in combined driving and I got completely lost, so I will stick to what I know, dressage!

Don’t feel bad about getting lost! I can think of… one stallion who showed in combined driving and not even to Advanced. People don’t really breed for driving, people who drive warmbloods take the dressage and show-jumping rejects. The few that do breed for driving are breeding personal horses and are not for sale. I keep track of the warmblood lines that do well and I’ve noticed a few trends: R-line, heavily breed Farnese, De Niro’s, Contenders, and Goodtimes has quite a few driving. But really, any average sports horse should be able to compete at regional Advanced level. It’s more of the driver getting there.

And, I have a couple of offspring sired by RDF Ti Kha Atta Rain, out of one of my wonderful Wap mares… Now, THESE babies are really awesome! I would repeat that breeding again and again, but Atta has been exported to Scotland…

I was so sad when I heard about Atta. I dreamed of leasing my old mare (another Walter Scott Hanoverian) and crossing her with him for a “copy” of my mare. He was fantastic and way underused.

In addition to my appaloosa breeding program, I also have TBs, warmbloods, and Knabstruppers…

Regarding Knabstrupper stallions here in the US, there are only a few to choose from… Kathy has already mentioned Colorado Skrodstrup, aka Fable, and I do think his excellent performance career, in addition to his awesome performance in the 70 day stallion test, makes him a serious contender for you mare. At least one other Knabstrupper stallion in the US also has a really nice performance career, Halifax Middelsom, and he is competing and winning at 3rd level dressage now and will be moving up the levels soon (www.knabstruppers4usa.com)… Oh and btw, earlier this year, Altamont Sport Horses acquired Ambrosius af Asgard, aka Atlantis, so when you talk to them about Hollywood Hot Spot, you can chat about Atlantis also!

The one thing I worry about crossing her with a Knabstrupper is adding yet another breed to a mixed mare. Pedigree wise my mare actually is 50% Appy, 25% Hanoverian, 25% Thoroughbred. I have a feeling though, I’m going to choose an Appy with high TB blood.

Then, of course, there are a few stallions out there that are appaloosa/warmblood crosses… and, Cloverlone Farm is certainly one place to look at for these horses…

Still looking into this possibility with some of the Cloverlone stallions.

So, trully, you have many stallions to consider… But first, I would decide if color is important, and if not, then you should probably start another thread about what stallions are competing in or producing offspring competing well in combined driving!

Good Luck and keep us posted!

Thanks, I will. I think I’ve made my decision. But you never know. I’m really leaning towards Undertack. I’ve loved him for a long time for this mare. I love the light line-breeding on Turn-to. I’ve finally talked to his owner and she admits that she dropped the ball on introducing him to Appy Sport Horse mares. She really thinks he would have excelled as a sports horse, and I agree. His TB lines scream sports horse and are really up close.
And he drives; that really says a lot to me as far as temperament. I’ve known horses that have had the best temperaments and dispositions that just weren’t driving horses. On the converse, my own mare was described as “too hot to drive” and she’s more reliable as a driving horse than a riding horse.
His babies are nice too. There are quite a few around CA (he’s in OR) and even though they may be out of HUS, WP and Halter mares, they move nice enough to do well in dressage. I have no doubt Undertack had a hand in that.
It just feels “right”. I don’t know how else to describe it… I also know exactly where I would take the next generation should it be a filly.

I still have plenty of time to make a decision. I really want to explore Cloverlone, Waps Rolls Royce, and Woody. But man, there’s something about Undertack I just like.

[Melyni]

[QUOTE=Beentheredonethat;6659949]
mitma and melyni–Your expert input appreciated. I REALLY wants spots for a FEI dressage horse again. Mine are bays now. Since I just won the bid on the breeding to COlorado, what do you think are chances of color with upper level? Is it really only 50%, or do some have a higher average? I only see spotted offspring. And what would be the best choice for Colorado?

My mares are all super movers for dressage, mom is 4th PSG, bay, pain in the ass uptight temperament, 15.3 too small for me, SUPER pregnant and THE best broodmare. Daughters are by Freestyle, bay/black, 16.3ish super mellow and laid back, easy to train, never been bred.

Do they all have the same chance of color? I’m almost worried with daughters that they would be too mellow.[/QUOTE]

With Colorado (as with any Leopard stallion) you have a 50% chance of color. If you want to be sure of color you need to use a few spot stallion, preferably homozygous for PATN1 as well as LP.
Colorado is a lovely horse though and a super performer in his own right.
MW

[Altamont_Sport_Horse]

[QUOTE=DancingAppy;6655425]
I prefer the pedigree match in Undertack. It would be a line breeding to Turn-to in the 4th and 5th generations (I believe, I wrote this out a while back.) I love Turn-to.[/QUOTE]

I’ve been meaning to pull out my notes from the 2003 Event Horse Breeders Symposium presented by Performance Horse Registry USA Equestrian Breeders Committee and this thread was the final push to do so. There was in depth pedigree analysis of successful TB bloodlines. If I understand my notes correctly they found that the Top sires found in 4 generation pedigrees of successful eventers were (in order of frequency):

1. Nasrullah
2. Nearco
3. Hyperion
4. Royal Charger
5. Princequillo
6. Bold Ruler
7. Turn To
8. Native Dancer
9. Mahmoud
10. War Relic
11. Ribot
12. Nearctic
13. Northern Dancer

Of course this was 9 years ago and I’m sure the eventers continue to analyze and update these results. I remember being pleased to learn this at the time because Woody had many of these horses represented on his TB side. Obviously not all would be found in 4 generations. I just took a look and if I haven’t missed anything this is what Woody has. Again, I’m not trying to push for him but since you mentioned your interest in TB bloodlines and Turn To I thought I’d throw this out there.

1. Nasrullah x4
2. Nearco x5
3. Hyperion 0
4. Royal Charger 0
5. Princequillo x2
6. Bold Ruler x2
7. Turn To 0
8. Native Dancer x1
9. Mahmoud x1
10. War Relic 0
11. Ribot x1
12. Nearctic 0
13. Northern Dancer 0

I am definitely interested in keeping up to date with top eventing sires and I can only imagine how many times this topic has come up in the Eventing Forums. We do not currently use a lot of TB here but do have it represented in several of our horses (Anglo-Trakehners, Knabstruppers and Appaloosa Sport Horses).

[Meggs]

Been away a few days…this thread spurred some interest!

Undertack seems like a neat guy. Since it looks like you’re pretty confident in your decision, I’ll just post it for the heck of it:

Honkytonk Wrangler in CA was one of the stallions I looked into for my WRR daughter. Sadly, at the time there was not enough info/video/photos etc to make a decision–I really like to see them in person, which wasn’t possible either. It looks as though you at least live in the same state! His sire Sunbeach Honkytonk did some pleasure driving.

[Wits_End_Eventing]

I do not know anything about Appaloosa’s or breeding for Appy color; however, we have a very nice (plain bay) TB yearling we got from Reed Hill Farm, and I noticed the other day that they are standing an Appaloosa stallion in addition to their TBs. Know absolutely NOTHING else about the horse. Just happened to see him the other day: http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-650669

[Equinoxfox]

Ok I have to say something …if you look in the full pedigree of ROLLS ROYCE. His dam has " Turn Two" in her background. He produces great foals and throws refinement and temperment . Not only is a foal to show but also a foal to sell in the future…

[smkhaury]

Blue Ghostwind TLC

[QUOTE=DancingAppy;6649027]
So I know there are quite a few other Appaloosa Sport Horse enthusiasts around. I am finally in a place where I can breed my mare. I have an idea of a stallion, but before I send in that check, wanted to make sure there isn’t a new stallion that might be a better fit.

What I’m looking for:

Fresh or frozen semen. Appaloosa, Appaloosa Sport Horse, or Knabstrupper stallion. I may also consider a Warmblood that nicks well with her Hanoverian lines or a Thoroughbred that nicks well on her Thoroughbred lines.

The plans for the baby are an all-around sports horse: eventing (around Training level), combined driving (goal is Advanced level), some show-jumping and dressage.

Mare in question is a 10 year old Appaloosa Sports Horse. 16.2hh, bay with blanket. What she needs improvement on: more length and correctness of legs (she does paddle a bit), more powerful hind end, stronger loin connection, a prettier head would be a plus. Gaits, I want to keep her fantastic walk, trot could use more hock action, canter needs more reach underneath and power. Temperament-wise, I would like to cool her down while retaining her forwardness and lightness.

Her pedigree:
Sire: Chelsea’s Ghost, ApHC Foundation

Dam: Franzia, Oldenburg

Who are the new Appaloosa Sport Horse stallions? I know that there are some out there but my Google skills are failing me.[/QUOTE]

I just found a video on YouTube for a young stallion, Blue Ghostwind TLC. He doesn’t have the most refined head in the world, although it is acceptable to me. He is very leggy, (in fact he looks not fully grown), he is a good mover, highly colored, with good foundation bloodlines.

[AppySport]

Custom Design stallion

Custom Design Sporthorse Stallion available for breeding 2013
www.customdesignsporthorses.com

multiple championships in 2012 Dressage.
16.3hh
Homozygous LPLP
available Fresh (frozen to come soon)
Located in MN

Amy

[AppFab]

Not new, but a great stallion

Have you ever looked at Collected Remarks? He is getting older, but still breeding and throwing nice, athletic babies. His 2011 colt was the 2nd highest placing colt at the Cedar Ridge FEH event and the highest placing App (3rd overall). They can be seen at www.topazfarm.com or http://www.facebook.com/TopazFarm