Anyone buy? sell? adopt? from Brit Le'Brand Farm Warsaw Ohio?

[MorganM]

Dogontired

What is your issue with Brit Le’ Brand Farms or Britney Sturtz ?? From my understand of your postings, you leased a horse from Britney. When the contract was not mutally agreed upon, you started posting commits and calling her names ? What exactly is your issue ? It just sounds like you are upset because you didn’t get your way. I read the rip off report section along with the forums, I think it was clearly black and white… So, I’m just confused ??? Please explain… Would love to see the pictures !!! Your talking about Britney’s horse, right ???

Thanks
Morgan M

[MorganM]

Question

[QUOTE=dogontired;3544688]
For new poster re: Gus, I would be happy to send you pix of the weekend before we picked him up and the day we took him back. I did my best to get this wonderful boy placed, in a forever home with a wonderful family (complete w/ kids) and am not surprised that the facts as presented to us in May did not match the facts as you state them now. Please contact me if you would like those pix, though I will warn you the pix from May are very upsetting. I would also recommend that you contact Lt. Kobel at Coshocton Co Sheriff Dept, phone number posted earlier in this thread, to discuss your situation. My offer to place him in Cleveland still stands, as long as it does not come with Britney attached.

Lee Burke[/QUOTE]

Dogontired, sorry Lee.
If you had this great family for Britney’s horse, why did you hide them ? It sounds very fishy on my end, please explain… I know I wouldn’t even think about letting my horse live with someone that I have had communications with !!:yes: Oh what is your point with the sherriff ? Sounds like you have a grudge against her … If the horse is with Britney, I’m sure he is safe.She takes wonderful care of her equines. Have you asked to see how he is doing or do you not care ??? Seems questionable… Please explain if you don’t mind…

Sorry for the questions, just very confused when it is her horse, right ?
Thanks
Morgan M:lol:

[trailqueen]

Morgan

Certainly everyone is entitled to express their feelings and share positive experiences. I’m so glad you are such wonderful friends with Britney and she has treated you so special. Everyone needs a best friend! Something that really bothers me and doesn’t make sense is that if Brit and her family are as caring, compassionate, and loving as you proclaim, why on earth is she keeping Mandy from seeing her pony, especially since you are so sure he is there and OK? Mandy suffered tremendous life changes leading to a difficult decision to part with her horses she had all her life, and from the beginning all Brit had to do was “keep in touch”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the very thing that Brit expects from people who adopt horses from her? If they don’t comply with her wishes, she reserves the right to “rescue” the horse back, right? Using all of your intellectual insight and since you know her so well, please explain why it is OK for her to do whatever she wants, yet she has total disregard when it comes to the same requests from others. You said Brit cried for days when she lost a horse she barely knew…um, Mandy had her horses/pony 20+ yrs…if anyone has a right to be upset, it’s her. Honestly, how can you defend that? How would you feel if you were in Mandy’s place? Maybe both parties could reach an agreement and put this to rest so Mandy can “move on”.

[mandy665]

thank you trailqueen, that made me cry, but like she said i did call and call and call and my mom called and called and called and we got nothing back after a while we had no choice but to give up…all i asked of her was to let me see my pony i never said i wanted him back or that she couldnt have him and you know what she told me she told me NO !!!

[trailqueen]

Morgan- OMG

What is the matter with you? I think you crossed the line here…Why would you post such private, personal information on a very public website where over 11,000 people have visited? I seriously doubt that Britney would approve of your actions (I don’t care how good of friends you profess to be) especially since she has been adamant in the past regarding her “private, personal” information that others tried to access that in all reality is public info. Is her lack of empathy unknowingly rubbing off on you? Shame on you!:o If she felt it was everyone’s business, she would have posted that herself…

[sfstable]

[QUOTE=trailqueen;3544855]
What is the matter with you? I think you crossed the line here…Why would you post such private, personal information on a very public website where over 11,000 people have visited? I seriously doubt that Britney would approve of your actions (I don’t care how good of friends you profess to be) especially since she has been adamant in the past regarding her “private, personal” information that others tried to access that in all reality is public info. Is her lack of empathy unknowingly rubbing off on you? Shame on you!:o If she felt it was everyone’s business, she would have posted that herself…[/QUOTE]

Maybe she just did post that herself :lol:

[MorganM]

TrailQueen

Trailqueen,
I’m sorry :yes: I don’t think Britney would mind, as you clearly point all of britney’s other personal information has been made public. She has always been very upfront with her loss of her daughter. Its a true life fact and feel that everyone on this thread needs to know the real Britney.:yes:

If the posting bother’s you or anyone else, I can remove it. :yes:

Regarding Mandy, the pony and Britney. That decision will have to be between Britney and Mandy. I can’t make that decision for her. Yes, with Britney’s contract the updates with the pictures are required. This is just my opinion, I know if someone gave their horses to me I would keep contact for a short while, then if the previous owner would ask I would forward info or pictures, but the horses would be treated as my personal horses. I wouldn’t continue to send updates or pictures unless it is completely discussed and agreed upon.

I just think everything is way out of hand regarding all the statements and posting. I really wish everyone would of handled their situations better, but as you know what damage is done is done…

Thanks
Morgan M

[MorganM]

sfstable

[QUOTE=sfstable;3544877]
Maybe she just did post that herself :lol:[/QUOTE]

:eek:sfstable. If you would read the previous posting, I’m a person in the public that has adopted 4 horses and leased a show horse from Brit Le’ Brand Farms, Britney Sturtz. I have expressed my opinion on this thread, so that everyone reading can get a feel for her. As just stated, if the statement makes you feel uncomfortable, I can remove it. :yes:

Thanks
Morgan M

[trailqueen]

MorganM

In all seriousness, are you clairvoyant or something? You have such great insight to the feelings of Britney, her financial information, intimate details, how she would think, etc. that I have to believe at this point you have a special gift. Sounds like you know her better than she knows herself.

[MorganM]

Misunderstanding ???

[QUOTE=trailqueen;3545015]
In all seriousness, are you clairvoyant or something? You have such great insight to the feelings of Britney, her financial information, intimate details, how she would think, etc. that I have to believe at this point you have a special gift. Sounds like you know her better than she knows herself.[/QUOTE]

Trailqueen

As I have stated several time. I know her extremely well, but all I’m doing is expressing my thoughts and feelings. I’m no " Clairvoyant". Thanks for thinking so… :lol:

Morgan M

[trailqueen]

No misunderstanding

[QUOTE=MorganM;3545053]
Trailqueen

As I have stated several time. I know her extremely well, but all I’m doing is expressing my thoughts and feelings. I’m no " Clairvoyant". Thanks for thinking so… :lol:

Morgan M[/QUOTE]
To know her that well and not even live in the same town is just wierd to me. You seem to take everything she says as the gospel truth no matter what, and that’s OK…to a point. What “inner city” children did she have come to her farm? Coshocton? The majority of those children probably wouldn’t have transportation to get across town, let alone get a responsible adult to travel 13 miles to her farm. Did she provide the transportation?

[Swampskeeter]

MorganM

Okay if B is so wonderful and trustworthy. Why did she “sell” a horse with fake papers? Why did she lead the previous owner of the mare to believe that she (B) was keeping the mare for life. Then within 6 months sold her. Gal that bought her even PAID EXTRA for reg. papers!!! Now she can’t get them because B is not cooperating!!!
This has been going round for months now.
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[MorganM]

Transportation

[QUOTE=trailqueen;3545126]
To know her that well and not even live in the same town is just wierd to me. You seem to take everything she says as the gospel truth no matter what, and that’s OK…to a point. What “inner city” children did she have come to her farm? Coshocton? The majority of those children probably wouldn’t have transportation to get across town, let alone get a responsible adult to travel 13 miles to her farm. Did she provide the transportation?[/QUOTE]

I can’t say for certain. I know there were several times when I went to ride, she had to leave to meet parents. But I can’t say for certain who transported them. There are enough wonderful people in this world, that I sure if some children needed a ride, someone would take out the time to help. :yes:

[MorganM]

Second party knowledge

[QUOTE=Swampskeeter;3545247]
Okay if B is so wonderful and trustworthy. Why did she “sell” a horse with fake papers? Why did she lead the previous owner of the mare to believe that she (B) was keeping the mare for life. Then within 6 months sold her. Gal that bought her even PAID EXTRA for reg. papers!!! Now she can’t get them because B is not cooperating!!!
This has been going round for months now.
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Swapskeeter

Do you know the whole story?? I know parts regarding DC, Britney and the horse. Britney told me some about it in the begining, ask for advise. I think your friend didn’t stand up to what was agreed upon mutally. But I can’t comment completely, only can say that from my knowledge that Britney is taking care of the matter… I think Britney did what was in the best interest of the horse. It was Britney’s horse, and she wanted it to be happy and loved on daily. After her great loss, she found a wonderful adoptive family. The family that has her, as you have stated numerous time on this posting ( loves her). So, what is the problem ??

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[Swampskeeter]

MorganM

The problem is she has NO REG papers that she paid EXTRA for!! It is in the contract, that I DID read. And B is NOT taking care of the matter.

No I have never talked to her, yes it is second hand info. But sometimes that is the best way to check people out. Ask questions from other people that have dealt with them.

And as for my friend “I think your friend didn’t stand up to what was agreed upon mutally” I am not sure what that is insinuating. She maybe missed a pic. update deadline?
And do you know the whole story? I talked to the previous owner. B was NOT truthful with her either. B avoided her calls and emails and didn’t stand up to what was mutally agreed on. Previous owner didn’t even know if the mare was alive or dead!!! Was happy to hear she was in a good home NOW!!!

[trailqueen]

MorganM

“loony” is just an informal, slang way of saying “crazy” on the phone to describe her tone and demeanor I’m sure…She is very good at talking down to people,trying to make them out to be stupid, and in the process she sounds “loony”…I can tell you from firsthand experience because I’ve witnessed/heard with my own ears outbursts by her mother that it is in fact an accurate description (horse shows/fairs). There are others out there that can attest to the fact. I’m glad for you that you’ve never been subjected to it…although it can be entertaining:lol:

[mandy665]

well still nothing new to report here…and i see nothing new here either

[Swampskeeter]

MorganM

I don’t think MorganM wants to play anymore. Won’t answer my PM’s either.

[Swampskeeter]

Borrowed

Just a little something I borrowed from another thread.
Makes you think about “What was mutally agreed on.” And her “Contracts”

FRAUD: somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain.

doing research I found this: interesting
4. Other Voidable Circumstances
There are other circumstances where a breach of contract can turn into a voided contract. If a person is under duress or under the influence to sign a contract, it may turn the contract void. If a person or persons are pressured into signing a contract, they may have been put under duress. If a party misinterprets a material, misrepresents themselves or their company, or commits fraud, this may make a breach of contract acceptable.

In some cases, failure to disclose information may also be deemed to be fraud or misrepresentation. If a contract is unconscionable, it may also be voided. If there is a mistake in a contract, it may be deemed voided. This may occur when a party or parties have a mistaken belief over a certain aspect when they first enter into a contract. If a contract is determined to have a bilateral mistake situation, this means that both parties were mistaken over something, and the contract can be voided. A contract may also be unenforceable if it violates the existing laws of that state, or goes against public policies. An example of this is a court not upholding a contract for the sale of illegal fireworks. It is always best to consult a lawyer to determine if your contract is null and void, or if it is a reputable breach of contract.

[BCEVENTER]

I don’t think MorganM wants to play anymore. Won’t answer my PM’s either.

Sometimes people can realize when they are in over their head. And I did have something else witty to say after that, but figured I’d remove it before mods did.