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Her adds on Horsetopia are still up even after I forwarded the court case to them.[/QUOTE]
Did you get a reply from them yet? If not they may have not set her a message yet. It will take a day or two to get a response.
Britney just contacted me about a hanoverian mare she had for sale as a broodmare. I googled her email and found this thread.
I will pass.
You have chosen wisely, grasshopper. :yes:
Welcome to COTH 
Back up to 14 horses/ponies. She has “Demi” back, and lots of “christmas specials”-
It really breaks my heart to see Annie still up for “lease” I really wish we could get these horses out of her hands. I sold Annie’s blankets and I hope that she is taking care of her. Since its been so cold I hope she’s blanketed and fed. But I guess things happen for a reason…
I really want that mare Dolly and noticed she just recently bumped up her price from $2250 to $2950 for a 21 year old broodmare. Sigh… She’s a nice mare, but that’s still very steep, especially in this economy. I’d happily pay $750 for her, but that’s only if she comes with free and clear title and her papers (and sans drama.)
Dolly/Deltara/etc
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I really want that mare Dolly and noticed she just recently bumped up her price from $2250 to $2950 for a 21 year old broodmare. Sigh… She’s a nice mare, but that’s still very steep, especially in this economy. I’d happily pay $750 for her, but that’s only if she comes with free and clear title and her papers (and sans drama.)[/QUOTE]
This poor thing has been in B’s clutches for at least 2 1/2 years, she’s not had a baby in years, and she does not “come free and clear title and her papers”. According to B, when I saw Dolly in May 2008, she was having trouble staying pregnant and B said she was going to “give up” trying to get a baby out of her (and that is a direct quote). Doesn’t seem to have slowed her down in trying to unload this poor thing onto some sucker who wants a baby.
This mare comes with a lifetime of grief with Miss B messing with your business by nonstop email and by phone. There are plenty of other top-drawer broodmares who are younger and actually productive at legitimate adoption agencies, wherever you are. $750 is not enough money to pay for a lifetime of grief and a mare that probably can’t stay pregnant, absent some sort of miracle. 
I wouldn’t have asked a 21 year old mare to carry a baby to term. That’s what embryo transfer is for. I specifically like that mare for her breeding and sabino gene, which is hard to find at a reasonable price for an imported mare.
Well maybe you could work a deal out with her that you get her free and clear. I mean if she is wanting her gone bad enough she just may go with it. I mean whats the worst that could happen?
With her past record I would not trust ANYTHING Britney says-including that the mare you lust after is actually the same mare she is peddling…caveat emptor…:no:
her honesty record really sucks
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I wouldn’t have asked a 21 year old mare to carry a baby to term. That’s what embryo transfer is for. I specifically like that mare for her breeding and sabino gene, which is hard to find at a reasonable price for an imported mare.[/QUOTE]
for what it’s worth, and if you have the stomach to go back through this 35+ page thread, Snowflake, you’ll find that Dolly has been advertised alternately as an oldenburg and as a dutch warmblood. Again, buyer beware with Miss B.
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With her past record I would not trust ANYTHING Britney says-including that the mare you lust after is actually the same mare she is peddling…caveat emptor…:no:
her honesty record really sucks[/QUOTE]
Very true!! I forgot that she did advertise her as other breeds…It just sucks that she is sooo dishonest and these horses have to pay for it…Thanks for reminding me as well…you too dogontired…I sometimes let the hopeful side of me give some people too much credit.
Dolly is in fact an Imported Hanoverian who was part of a herd liquidation from a breeder in the midwest. She was brokered by Blackshire Equestrian. She’s by the stallion Dynamo out of a Weltmeister mare. How she wound up in Ohio is beyond me.
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Dolly is in fact an Imported Hanoverian who was part of a herd liquidation from a breeder in the midwest. She was brokered by Blackshire Equestrian. She’s by the stallion Dynamo out of a Weltmeister mare. How she wound up in Ohio is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you would know best, Snowflake, it just seems like quite a coincidence that this mare that you’re looking at has the same name as the ‘other’ Dolly/Deltara that’s been w/ Miss B for over 2 1/2 years…re: how Dolly ended up w/ Miss B in Ohio, that poor mare must have incredibly BAD luck…
snowflake–from those who have gone before…
We can’t say long enough or LOUD enough–BEWARE! BEWARE! It is never as it seems or never as she says–but she has the gift–to make you believe…she puts so much effort into being deceitful–believe nothing she says…I wouldn’t be surprised if she knew of the dispersal and just “applied” the facts of the imported mare to some poor horse she picked up at an auction…really --she probably would go to the effort of even creating a brand–her efforts at deceit are beyoond what the average person can fathom…
so sad…
Well I e-mailed Britney about the embryo transfer option and this is the e-mail response I got from her:
I will have to definately do some thinking on this type of situation. There would be alot of fees incurred with board, hauling to vet, fee of each embryo and etc to be calculated. I have a family member that has done embryo transfer with quarter horses, so I will have to ask some questions. OSU is about 2 hours away and Cleveland is 3 hours away, so there would be alot of hauling time involved. I’ve been asked this before, but didn’t feel the interested party would do the foal justice, so I declined. So, let me get my thoughts together regarding this and what fees I would have to have in order to consider the work load, the stress and time with a situation such of this. Even though the mare would remain here, you would be responsible for her care, feed, hay, farrier, insurance and etc during the process. Upon the completion of the embryo inserted into your mare and her being comfirmed infoal everything would be finalized. Regarding extra embryo’s, I do know that I would not be selling them just to anyone that would want them. This mare’s foals were selling in the $100,000.00 a couple of years ago, so I would want only quality show homes for them. But again, I’m not sure if I feel comfortable with the situation or not. I will get back with you after the first of the year if not before. Thanks Again.
To which I replied:
To me, this is simply a business transaction. I don’t want to get into a confusing, emotion wrought contract. I understand your passion for your horses and desire to protect them and their offspring, but I don’t want to be the one making a sizable investment and allow someone to also “stake a claim” so to speak on the results of my investment. I look at this situation very similar to choosing a stallion for stud. I am simply looking to pay you a fee for your mare’s eggs and nothing else. And I think that would be the best way to go forward here.
That said, I unfortunately would not agree to pay your mare’s board, feed, hay, farrier, insurance, etc during the collection. Her routine maintenance would still be your responsibility and can be considered inclusive of the fee paid for her to be collected. I wouldn’t pay it for a stallion, and wouldn’t consider it in this case either. It is my personal policy to never EVER pay insurance on anything I don’t have care, custody and complete control over. I don’t want to be hit with an insurance claim, and it’s deductible should some freak accident happen and, for example, she runs through the fence at your farm. I had no choice in what fence you put up, I have no hand it it’s maintenance, and I would have no control to prevent such a situation from happening, so I don’t take responsibility for it. I hope you can understand my position. If she were stabled at my farm and in my care, it would be a completely different story.
The collection process is extremely easy. I would have a breeding soundness exam done at my expense and copies furnished to you for your future use. The vet would then determine what protocol to use and what, if any, medications he would prescribe. She would be inseminated at the appropriate time, then a few days later the embryo(s) flushed. Breeding soundness exam would be done a month ahead to allow for any lab results and insemination/flushing done within the course of 7-10 days.
I pay a flat rate of $20 per hour for your time. That includes time spent loading/hauling, holding for vet, etc. $1-1.50/loaded mile for trailering depending on the MPG of your rig and $5 per administration of meds.
Any resulting foal and embryo is mine free and clear to use, sell, or transfer at my discretion with no restrictive stipulations. Should you wish to have an embryo or embryos of your own to use, that can be negotiated and the fee for Dolly’s use reduced or eliminated to reflect that portion of my investment.
I would be happy to furnish references to satisfy your need to insure that I am a suitable home and responsible horse owner who puts my horses consideration first. I think the fact that I have been paying board on a lame mare for years and sacrificing my riding goals to insure her happiness speaks volumes to my dedication to my horses. My mare came to me at 8 and had already been through 7 homes in that time. She was angry and had no trust in people. After all she had been through, I could never put her back through that kind of turmoil. She’s a completely different horse today. She’s relaxed and happy. People who knew her “back when” are amazed at how wonderful she is. I promised her she’ll never be sold and I’m keeping that promise.
I don’t wish to purchase Dolly because I don’t feel it would be fair to her to purchase her, complete the embryo transfer and then try to figure out how to rehome her. I can’t justify boarding another mare that I can’t ride and there’s just not much market for a coming on 23 year old broodmare. (Deltara was born in 1988 and not 1989 as your ad states.) It’s not fair to her to try to juggle her around like that and that’s why I’m seeking this option. You get to make some extra cash while still marketing her for sale and I get the foal of my dreams.
So, this is my proposal and I’m not going to stray too far from it. I’m open to suggestions but will be approaching this very cautiously as well.
That didn’t go over well because I got the following response:
Thanks for your email but after alot of discussion and evaluating, I am not interested in this type of situation for Dolly. Dolly nor her foals are a business transaction to me. I want one special person to have her for the rest of her life, to be able to get one or two foals out of her that they would keep and show plus love her to death. I’m not looking to make extra money on Dolly as you have suggested while I look for that great home. I love Dolly to death and will only do what is best for her. Oh and yes, she is a 1988 foal as her ad does state!!! If and when Dolly is homed, it will be on a very strict adoption contract, where she will remain for life. I’m sure there are other owner’s out there that would be interested in a business transaction with there mare’s. I wish you luck in your search Thanks Britney
You just can’t argue with crazy.
B = crazy
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You just can’t argue with crazy.[/QUOTE]
Yup. You can thank your lucky stars on this one! 
She wuvs them to death, but is still looking for “homes” for them;)
Laughing…
I swear I’m laughing so hard right now…Loves them to death…:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: If she did they would all have homes and that includes Annie. Because I had someone who wanted her and would have been a wonderful home for her but will not do any kind of contract…She needs to just sell these horses and move on…
