Anyone buy? sell? adopt? from Brit Le'Brand Farm Warsaw Ohio?

[Gullible]

I wish I knew about this site a year ago, I’m the latest frustrated leasee

After finding this, I, on one hand feel like an idiot for being so gullible and on the other hand, I’m in a bad situation but maybe not as bad as some of what I have read. I currently have Demi (13 yr old Hanovarian mare) on a “show” lease. She was severely underweight but I took her anyway because she moves beautifully and I was told jumped 4 ft. We worked hard to get her back in healthy shape and started jumping her. She physically can jump 4 ft but mentally does not want to go 3ft or more. I was encouraged to give her more time to bond with my daughter… then a minor quarter crack developed. I had agreed to a year lease and now that we are nearing the end, B refused to take her back because of the quarter crack. B states that Demi is not in the same or better condition as she left because she deems her “damaged” and as per the contract, she will not take her back. The crack is isolated and never spread nor did it crack the entire wall. Demi never took a lame step due to the crack and my vet saw it when she did spring shots and she said she would call it more of a defect than a crack. I have engaged an Ohio attorney to help me end this nightmare. Demi is a sweet horse with great movement but not the right horse for the job I was looking for. She certainly did not meet the expectations I had based upon the info I got when I went into the lease. Now I read all of this and … I’m more frustrated with myself and disappointed in society that someone with this kind of track record has not been stopped. Shame on me for beleiving in mankind and getting involved in the first place. Anyone that has any helpful information or advice or any history on Demi and any possible hoof issues, I would appreciate hearing from you either on this Thread or via PM.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[trailqueen]

Gullible

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Sure hope everything comes out OK for you- she’s been reported to Coshocton Co Sheriff’s ofc for misrepresentation by a Lady out of North or South Carolina (I can’t remember). Not that it really matters b/c she’s retired from breeding, but I would like to know if anyone has ever asked her about this “Dolly” horse. It is relevant in that it would give good insight into “B’s” honesty. In the ad it says the foals have been sold for high prices and have had outstanding careers in the US and abroad. I would want names, places, etc and check it out before leasing/buying her. If she gives a line of BS like she can’t release names b/c of protecting the previous owner(s), then she needs to take it out of the ad, otherwise it falls again in the catagory of “misrepresentation.” And with that kind of business, I would be taking pics before and after and have a written report on file from the vet upon first check that would spell out the condition when I acquired the horse. That way, I would be able to show ppl that were interested in adopting exactly what I had done with the horse. She expects so much from the people that adopt, why don’t those same rules apply to her? I just don’t get it.

[KarrotKreek]

We are coming up on Congress… and B’s new favorite past time of selling Aussie puppies at the Puppy tent during Congress. Please everyone help keep this post current so no one goes through that nightmare!

[dogontired]

Britney Sturtz and Puppy Alley at Quarter Horse Congress

[QUOTE=KarrotKreek;6561243]
We are coming up on Congress… and B’s new favorite past time of selling Aussie puppies at the Puppy tent during Congress. Please everyone help keep this post current so no one goes through that nightmare![/QUOTE]

maybe there will be another B parvo puppy like last year? B sold a pup to someone in SW Pennsylvania, which puppy was diagnosed with parvo within 10 hours of arriving at his new home in PA. Complaint filed against B with Ohio AG’s office very promptly thereafter. I believe the gal in PA got her purchase price back, which covered the vet bills for the pup.

B, the nightmare that just keeps on giving… :no:

[mpack]

welcome to the ranks…many of us also “believed” her

Sorry for your troubles :-(( if you have read all you probably know some have also issued formal complaints with the Coshocton Sheriff’s office–so, although I realize you are beat-up and weary-if you can call them too. We all hope eventually Britney will be stopped and people and horses alike will be spared from being entangled in her web of deceit.

[mpack]

…oh and the poor puppies too…

[justadreamer]

issues with Brittany

[QUOTE=dogontired;3414554]
This one is a few fries short of a Happy Meal. Claimed on Dreamhorse that the horse was “for sale” but when we got there, suddenly, that price is the “forever home” adoption price and an outright purchase, if she can bring herself to do it, is at least twice the price. The “forever home” adoption comes with the horse and with her. Forever. She won’t sell me the horse, and now she won’t let me return him either. We will be asking Coshocton County sheriff for an escort to return the horse this week. In spite of refusing to sign paperwork she’d agreed to for a sale of the horse, she’s still cashing the check and “maybe” will give us a pro-rated refund. Won’t (or can’t) produce coggins or health records on horses that she’s allegedly acquired outside of Ohio. The rehab we “adopted” was a good 800 pounds underweight, and in spite of an extremely obvious and painful tendon/suspensory/navicular injury and a “therapeutic” shoe job that resulted in abscesses in both front feet, she stated that she did not have her vet examine the horse or provide any medical treatment for him for over 9 weeks while he was in her “care”. Several thousand dollars in vet, farrier, feed and board bills, she thanks us for our “fantastic” care of the horse but will not take him back. Approach this one with extreme caution.[/QUOTE]
We need to talk to someone that has dealt with her as she is trying to sue us

[justadreamer]

she is trying to sue us right now we really need some advise

[Alagirl]

best bet is to consult an attorney.

[pony4me]

Hi, Justadreamer! Welcome to COTH.

I am not a lawyer, but common sense and a couple of business law courses say that the lawsuit you talked about in that other thread will not be entertained by any decent lawyer. She is trying to sue you for damages for not fixing your dog fast enough, and the most she should sue you for is specific performance of your contract, assuming you had one. To sue you, she’s got to find a lawyer, and all of this will take time. By the time this gets to a judge, your dog will be fixed. Loser pays all court costs and attorney fees. She’s just jerking you around.

If lawsuits were easy, there would be many more of them. Still, a consult with your attorney would be the best thing for you.

Good luck!

[justadreamer]

The contract states that if the puppy is not going to be fixed a letter from our Vet needs to be presented and we did just that. She said that she is not going to accept our vets recommendation to wait until the pup reaches his first birthday. She insisted that we bring the pup to her vet and we will have to pay for it. She has been calling my mother and getting her all upset. This EVIL person has to be stopped. She claims that she will come get the puppy tomorrow if we don’t bring the dog to her vet (2 hour drive) and she stated that we can not have her arrested for trespassing. She has no common sense and she has no compassion for the animals that she sells.

[pony4me]

Wow, what a bad situation for you! I hope this thread deters anyone else from dealing with her. As far as the IRS being interested in her activities, it would be nice if it happened, but her yearly “take” is not a lot of money in their eyes, and they have limited resources.

[trailqueen]

FYI

I wondered how long it would take- I heard her brother’s new wife is friends with an attorney in Coshocton so she’ll probably be trying to sue everyone now…she’ll probably have him on speed-dial until he gets sick of it. You definitely need to talk to an attorney to get her off your back. Document every interaction with her, every phone call, save messages for proof…and good luck

[511]

Just because she says something doesn’t mean that she can.

Why people bend over backwards for this woman is beyond me. She ‘sold’ the dog she has no further rights to it.

Someone needs to get a bigger bully than she is to explain the facts of the business world to her. Like a pit bull of a lawyer or failing that some mafia Guido.

[Event4Life]

[QUOTE=pony4me;6696213]
Wow, what a bad situation for you! I hope this thread deters anyone else from dealing with her. As far as the IRS being interested in her activities, it would be nice if it happened, but her yearly “take” is not a lot of money in their eyes, and they have limited resources.[/QUOTE]

Typing her name into google, which I would do before adopting an animal from anyone, brings up this thread in item 2 and a whole bunch of ripoff reports below it. Hopefully people will do that before entertaining this woman.

[justadreamer]

[QUOTE=dogontired;6561637]
maybe there will be another B parvo puppy like last year? B sold a pup to someone in SW Pennsylvania, which puppy was diagnosed with parvo within 10 hours of arriving at his new home in PA. Complaint filed against B with Ohio AG’s office very promptly thereafter. I believe the gal in PA got her purchase price back, which covered the vet bills for the pup.

B, the nightmare that just keeps on giving… :no:[/QUOTE]

Its funny that you say that because according to the contract I received it states in one of the paragraphs…

“We want to state that we at Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussie’s have never had any health issues with any of our Australian Sheppard parents or puppies. Our health guarantee consists of it being the responsibility of the new owner to take their new puppy to their certified veterinarian within 48 hours for full puppy check. If there were to be any major life threatening defects detected the puppy would need to be returned immediately at the expense of the new owner with certified veterinarian document with diagnosis. The new owner would then receive a new puppy of same value of their choice from the existing litter or the next litter available. The new puppy owner is responsible for all transportation and costs associated with the puppy. The puppy will have a complete certified vet exam prior to her departure for her new home. The new puppy owner agrees that Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussies is in no way liable or responsible for any damage, accident or injury resulting from the puppy during transport. Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussies is in no way responsible for the effects of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) or the effects of any other stress related illness due to the puppy travels.”

I can’t believe that she makes all costs the responsibility of the new owner especially in the case of buying an expensive puppy with breeding rights and papers! Personally, I would never return a puppy to this lady, but I can understand some circumstances involve a lot more money! The B parvo puppy case is just so sad!

[mvp]

@justadreamer;6698980

“We want to state that we at Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussie’s have never had any health issues with any of our Australian Sheppard parents or puppies. Our health guarantee consists of it being the responsibility of the new owner to take their new puppy to their certified veterinarian within 48 hours for full puppy check. If there were to be any major life threatening defects detected the puppy would need to be returned immediately at the expense of the new owner with certified veterinarian document with diagnosis. The new owner would then receive a new puppy of same value of their choice from the existing litter or the next litter available. The new puppy owner is responsible for all transportation and costs associated with the puppy. The puppy will have a complete certified vet exam prior to her departure for her new home. The new puppy owner agrees that Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussies is in no way liable or responsible for any damage, accident or injury resulting from the puppy during transport. Belle Greye Haven Stables Aussies is in no way responsible for the effects of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) or the effects of any other stress related illness due to the puppy travels.”

I can’t believe anyone would sign a contract with a clause that is as badly written as this one and provides no real protection for the buyer.

Besides the buyer paying all expenses involved for returning a defective puppy, the replacement dog is certified by the seller’s vet? That’s how it appears to me since the contract only states that the replacement dog will have a “certified vet exam before leaving home.” I don’t know what a certified vet exam is, who does the examining and who picks the vet. But neither does the buyer.

[mpack]

Yikes! Brittany still at it…:-(( sad for all–people and animals. Intimidation is her game–so, take a deep breath -and don’t bow to her threats. I think her goal is to harass so the horse or dog come back to her and enable her to sell again. Keep records of ALL correspondence. Do file as many formal complaints as possible. Coshocton Police and the Ohio’s Attorney General’s Office all have complaints regarding her. DO post on rip-off report and other sites that enable you to tell your story and warn others. I wonder if there is a site comprable to this forum for dogs–certainly others in the aussie market have similiar stories and you could unite. SO sorry for your troubles!

[justadreamer]

[QUOTE=mvp;6699028]
I can’t believe anyone would sign a contract with a clause that is as badly written as this one and provides no real protection for the buyer.

Besides the buyer paying all expenses involved for returning a defective puppy, the replacement dog is certified by the seller’s vet? That’s how it appears to me since the contract only states that the replacement dog will have a “certified vet exam before leaving home.” I don’t know what a certified vet exam is, who does the examining and who picks the vet. But neither does the buyer.[/QUOTE]

I agree, she is crazy…But, I drove 2.5 hours one way to pick my puppy up and I paid a fraction of the price for him because of his age. Therefore, I was not too worried about that part of the contract. I just wanted to get my puppy and leave. The only thing she is giving me greif about now is getting him neutered. Which, my “certified vet” advised me to wait until he is a year old for health reasons. Her contract states that he needed to be neuterd by a specific date unless my vet advises me differently and sends her a letter stating so! Which my vet did exactly as she requested.

But now she claims my vets reason for waiting to neuter him is not good enough and she is herassing me, my mom , and now my vet. Apparently she called my vet today and told him that i stated to her that he refuses to neuter the dog and is telling him that i am going to breed the dog if I don’t get him neutered! Neither of those statements are true! I am not a breeder, if I was I would never have paid $200 for a breeding stud without any papers or certifications. I am just an Aussie lover and my mom baught me a beautiful puppy for christmas!

This lady is unbelievable!

[justadreamer]

[QUOTE=mpack;6699180]
Yikes! Brittany still at it…:-(( sad for all–people and animals. Intimidation is her game–so, take a deep breath -and don’t bow to her threats. I think her goal is to harass so the horse or dog come back to her and enable her to sell again. Keep records of ALL correspondence. Do file as many formal complaints as possible. Coshocton Police and the Ohio’s Attorney General’s Office all have complaints regarding her. DO post on rip-off report and other sites that enable you to tell your story and warn others. I wonder if there is a site comprable to this forum for dogs–certainly others in the aussie market have similiar stories and you could unite. SO sorry for your troubles![/QUOTE]

Good idea mpack…I will look into the other forum!