Anyone purpose-breeding the old style, heavier WBs?

[Fantastic]

Videos of Groningers and Gelderlanders

Groninger Horse Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPZHdMqw9Ps&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86_Gx82H22A&feature=related

2008 Groninger Horse Keuring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaNkroqzfSM&feature=related

Gelderlander Horse Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YInPibU6KJU&feature=related

Horse with small blaze is the Gelderlander:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlbbF8v4z48&feature=related

[RyTimMick]

Thanks for the input Alton and Fantastic, very interesting. I live so close I figured I would ask.

Tim

[Fancy_That]

[QUOTE=Fantastic;4598511]
Groninger Horse Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPZHdMqw9Ps&feature=related
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Wow - I am in love with that dark stallion shown in this video (undersaddle and driven) Thanks for sharing that. I’d never seen a Groningen “go” before… (only had seen photos) He is heavy-built but SUPER LIGHT ON HIS FEET

[vervachel]

So who can you breed to if you DO want an older style WB?

I am a huge fan of the “older” style WB. Not a carthorse, but the kind with bone and substance, talent and temperment. Built to last without being coarse and a joy to ride - responsive and forward without being a hot-head . I am fortunate to own and ride an absolutely lovely Hanoverian mare of Werther and Absatz bloodlines. But when it comes to breeding another one that will be (hopefully) just like her, I have no idea what stallion to use. All the stallions that I look at - and there are so many - seem to be promoted as modern, refining stallions. It’s as if no stallion owner wants to say that their boy will add bone, substance, big solid feet, or a handsome or noble head along with the expected athleticism and rideabilty. So, if you know of a stallion who reliably produces all the things I love about the older style, please feel free to PM me - I would very much appreciate the help.

[Fairview_Horse_Cente]

Gold Luck

I also have an older type Hanoverian stallion, but he is not approved.

[DownYonder]

[QUOTE=vervachel;4613993]
So, if you know of a stallion who reliably produces all the things I love about the older style, please feel free to PM me - I would very much appreciate the help.[/QUOTE]

See the Don Schufro / Diamond Hit thread.

[Tasker]

Another owner of a not approved AHS older style Hanoverian stallion - Waldaire.

[vervachel]

Thanks for the suggestions!

Thanks for the suggestions - I will definitely check these stallions out! Also, the stallions don’t have to be approved Hanoverian. I would be happy to look at Oldenburg or Canadian Warmblood as well.

[Stacie]

I would have recommended my babies’ sire, but alas, he passed away this summer Old lines, indeed.

However, Gold Luck at Rolling Stone Farm http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/GL.shtml
has outstanding breeding and puts a great engine in his babies, too. He’s a grand uncle to my 2 babies on the dam side. He’s a great stallion.

G-lines are notable for their outstanding temperaments, intelligence, power and correct movement.

[MagicRoseFarm]

[QUOTE=Stacie;4614335]
I would have recommended my babies’ sire, but alas, he passed away this summer Old lines, indeed.

However, Gold Luck at Rolling Stone Farm http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/GL.shtml
has outstanding breeding and puts a great engine in his babies, too. He’s a grand uncle to my 2 babies on the dam side. He’s a great stallion.

G-lines are notable for their outstanding temperaments, intelligence, power and correct movement.[/QUOTE]

… or his nephew, from the same damline, Beste Gold… his foals are doing incredibly well, even though he is young and not high profile (due to a breeding injury)…He was highest scoring stallion licensed by the AWR the year he was presented, Has made the USEF top 10 list in DSHB several times, and most of his foals have scored in the top 10 of all AWR inspections in North America, from a large variety of mare bloodlines and types.

[TWF]

@Stacie;4614335

G-lines are notable for their outstanding temperaments, intelligence, power and correct movement.

Thanks for that concise observation Stacie. The stallions you speak of all refer back to one of the best stallions of our time. His performances were mesmerizing. God Bless Grundstein! His name is Cornerstone in German… I hope the G-Lines are utilized as a source for preserving type, substance and brilliance. Bravo!

[LVWS80]

Hi Everyone! Although this is a very old topic, I would like to try and get in touch with any of you, who know a lot about Gelders horses and/ or are still involved with them in the USA and Canada (or anywhere else).
I will introduce myself first. My name is Liz and I am from the Netherlands. I live in Arizona since July 2018, and will stay here for the next 4 years bc of my husbands job (Airforce). As a hobby and passion I have been doing photoshoots of Gelders horses a lot the past years. Also I did a big project with interviews and photoshoots last year, as sort of a ‘tribute’ to the classical Dutch Warmblood. I visited many breeders of Gelders horses in the Netherlands for this project, which was amazing. They can all be seen on my website and FB page. www.lvws.jimdo.com.

Now that I am in the USA, I am trying to find out everything about the Gelders horses here. Some really important Gelders stallions were exported from the Netherlands in the past and there is still quite some offspring of them living here, I found out. I find it important that the Gelders horse doesn’t disappear due to ongoing modernization and for that reason I promote them and also try to find out if there is still frozen semen available or if there are stallions that carry valuable bloodlines.

I have a FB page called ‘Krachtpatsers’ which I set up after my project last year. It turned out into a platform for people who love the Classical Dutch Warmbloods, of course the Gelders horses but also the classical type of Groningers and Harness horses. I would love to find more Gelders horses here and maybe even visit them for photoshoots and interviews. (Just to be clear: this is not advertising because I don’t do this as a job, it is a hobby, volunteer work :))
https://www.facebook.com/PowerhorsesbyLVWS/

I really hope to get in touch with you! Thanks in advance.

[Anton_van_Lijssel]

The authentic Gelderlander breed is retained
On 25 July 2019, the Dutch national Service for Entrepreneurial Netherlands (RVO), which grants the studbook recognitions on behalf of the Dutch government, has recognized the Klassiek Paarden Stamboek (KPST) as the studbook for the breed Classical Gelderlander horse. Thanks to the Dutch Parliament, the Klassiek Paarden Stamboek (KPST), the studbook for this centuries-long famous horse breed, has finally received the important government recognition under the regulations of the European Union.
www.horses.nl/fokkerij/het-ras-klassiek-gelderlander-paard-blijft-behouden/