Appendix Quarter Horses

[HicksteadFan]

I’ve done some research but some people have made it their mission to make things confusing. What is considered an Appendix? I know it is a QH, TB cross. (I’ve read it only has to be a TB cross. Is that true?) And only a foal with a TB parent and a QH parent can be registered as an American Quarter Horse. But what about other combinations, are they still considered to be appendix horses or just mixes? For example appendix x appendix; appendix x TB; appendix x QH? If you’re breeding a line of TBs with an appendix thrown in how far away do you have to get to not be considered an appendix?

One of my mares, a QH bred for gaming, is 1/4 TB (she’s actually related to my TB through Secretariat, how cool is that?) What would she be considered?

[Flash44]

http://americashorsedaily.com/appendix-vs-quarter-horse/#.VN-Vg_mjOjc

As far as your mare goes, is she registered AQHA?

An Appendix horse can only be bred back to a permanent, or regular numbered Quarter Horse. An Appendix cannot be bred to a Thoroughbred or another Appendix horse and still be registered with AQHA, although there are performance exceptions.

[HicksteadFan]

Just got a text back from my mom, the horse is registered under the AQHA as an Appendix.

Can a horse (say appendix x TB) be called an appendix even though it isn’t registered? Or does it matter. Are there only specific rules for registered horses?

[Abbie.S]

http://www.americanappendix.com/qualificationtoregisterahorseasanappendixbreed.html

I own an Appendix mare. She is out of a full-blooded TB mare by a 1/2 and 1/2 sire. Honestly, I didn’t bother to register her.

According to the site, the percentage of TB and QH isn’t an issue, so long as both are present. You don’t need the permission of some big wig in a breed registration association to call your horse an appendix.

I don’t know about AQHA rules, but as far as the American Appendix Association goes, it seems their criteria are far less rigorous. So the answers to your question depends on the registration you have in mind. In general terms, an appendix is a TB/QH cross of any kind.

[Imaginagent]

It can be appendix, depending on if the appendix parent has had that taken off. The AQHA rules are a bit dumb in my opinion. It is not that hard to get one ROM in an Open division. So I think there are a whole lot of horses out there that are more TB than QH.

[My_Two_Cents]

If a horse is not registered as an Appendix Quarter Horse with the AQHA but has appendix breeding it would still be considered a grade horse. To call it Appendix Quarter Horse would indicate that it is registered as such. Your mare is registered with the AQHA in the Appendix section with an appendix number so she is an Appendix Quarter horse. There is a section on registry requirements on the AQHA website that explains how a regular number can be earned.

[merrygoround]

One owner of a papered former racehorse AQHA was completely offended when I called it an Appendix, til I explained that Yes, he had AQHA papers, but was 1/2 TB but had been “upgraded”. :rolleyes: Yes it can get very confusing.

[Flash44]

[QUOTE=HicksteadFan;8010278]
Just got a text back from my mom, the horse is registered under the AQHA as an Appendix.

Can a horse (say appendix x TB) be called an appendix even though it isn’t registered? Or does it matter. Are there only specific rules for registered horses?[/QUOTE]

You can call a horse whatever you want, but if it’s not registered, I don’t think you can compete in breed shows or register any offspring. So do you care whether or not the horse is registered? The AQHA website will answer a lot of your questions. And if you read my prior post #2, you can’t breed an appendix to anything other than a regular registry horse if you want to be able to register the foal.

[OveroHunter]

Appendix is only recognized in the AQHA. I have a APHA registered paint/TB cross but she’s just considered a paint. Therefore I could breed her to a TB and still register the foal with the APHA. An Appendix with the AQHA would need to earn 10 points with the AQHA to lose the Appendix status and be able to breed back to a TB.

[jvanrens]

Actually there is an appendix registry that allows appendix x appendix. http://www.americanappendix.com/

Now if you actually want to show breed shows, like AQHA, I’m not sure what it’s worth.

My mare is registered appendix with AQHA, though I doubt anyone would guess that by looking at her, or her dam who is the half TB that was bred to a QH resulting in my girl. Most people would guess she’s an Impressive bred, though there’s none in her pedigree.

[craz4crtrs]

My mare is registered AQHA appendix but the tb is a couple generations back. She is actually 75% foundation qh. If I had bred her, her foals would also be appendix unless they accumulated AQHA points of some kind even though they may be considered foundation qh. If l bred her to a tb, the foal would not be registered AQHA if I remember right. An AQHA appendix doesn’t have to be half tb, just that a parent may be appendix.

This is just for information, my mare is actually spayed. Lol

[LawsofMurph]

I find this all very confusing.
My Appendix QH is appendix/TB but is registered AQHA. In fact, his sire’s line is mostly Appendix. I don’t know what that means for registration seeing as I was not the one who registered him originally, but he has papers and everything.

[Nuggets]

[QUOTE=LawsofMurph;8013329]
I find this all very confusing.
My Appendix QH is appendix/TB but is registered AQHA. In fact, his sire’s line is mostly Appendix. I don’t know what that means for registration seeing as I was not the one who registered him originally, but he has papers and everything.[/QUOTE]

Once an Appendix horse earns 10 points in the open showing division, they receive a Register of Merit, a “ROM,” which means you can request to have their registration changed to the standard AQHA registry. At that point, they are no longer an Appendix Quarter Horse, they’re a Quarter Horse. Kind of pointless for a gelding, but if it’s a mare you want to breed, it makes a difference.

So for your horse, the stallions likely earned their ROMs and were moved into the normal registry. If his registry number doesn’t start with an “X,” he’s not an appendix.

[MistyBlue]

This is one of my horse’s pedigree…would he be considered Appendix at all?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/fireball+illusion

[BEARCAT]

I have an Apaintdix
He is a registered paint but dam is full TB. Lovely horse.

[bcody]

If I remember correctly, the AQHA has to approve a thoroughbred for breeding to an QH before breeding for it to be an appendix?? My gelding is an appendix, my mare has regular papers.

[craz4crtrs]

[QUOTE=MistyBlue;8013383]
This is one of my horse’s pedigree…would he be considered Appendix at all?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/fireball+illusion[/QUOTE]

What is his registration number, does it have an X in front of it? Does his dam? If he does not then he isn’t appendix.

[craz4crtrs]

Originally Posted by MistyBlue View Post
This is one of my horse’s pedigree…would he be considered Appendix at all?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/fireball+illusion
What is his registration number, does it have an X in front of it? Does his dam? If he does not then he isn’t appendix.

Ok I went and lookedup Fireball Illusion on the AQHA website and pulled the pedigree. Your horse IS registered AQHA appendix and so was his dam registered AQHA appendix.

So yes, your horse is an appendix and only eligible for full AQHA papers if he was raced and received enough points for full papers or AQHA ROM points and became eligible for full papers.

Does that make sense? I know its confusing.

[MistyBlue]

Thanks! I didn’t think to look up his papers on AQHA, I do have membership. I just keep forgetting I’m a member, LOL!

No, Sonny/Fireball never raced AFAIK. I haven’t looked at his papers in ages, but none of his former owners were race folks IIRC.

[craz4crtrs]

[QUOTE=MistyBlue;8013832]
Thanks! I didn’t think to look up his papers on AQHA, I do have membership. I just keep forgetting I’m a member, LOL!

No, Sonny/Fireball never raced AFAIK. I haven’t looked at his papers in ages, but none of his former owners were race folks IIRC.[/QUOTE]

He is nicely bred on top. Probably a versatile guy. Can’t remember much on the bottom side.

My mare is appendix from her dam too. Tb mare was bred to Freckles Chek, that resulting mare bred to Leige Lord by Alamitos Bar. Next mare bred to Black Eddie Hancock. My little bay mare is the result, fun horse to own and ride.