Why on earth is that surprising? This isn’t some boys vs. girls schoolground fight. It’s about internalized bias that what is male is stronger, superior, different from the “same old same old” yet closer to the standard all at once.
Patriarchal norms sustain themselves because BOTH women and men perpetuate them.
I wonder who will be hiring Sue Ash after this.
I have to admit it amuses me that a thread was posted about a bias that clearly exists in the equitation ring toward men, and a man saw the topic title and apparently without even bothering to read the article at all, rolled in to be like “well, actually…”
It’s just fitting, somehow. 
Everyone. She’s an extremely good judge and we have very, very few good judges.
This is frequently the case IME. I work in higher ed in an overwhelmingly female field in a city that votes over 90% democratic. Who is the first to oppose and is most adamantly opposed to mandated training for faculty on Title IX? A man.
They guys just want it more though hun, go back to your crying corner now dear 
Mansplainers gunna mansplain 
Never understood this.
When I read it I thought, well that’s one way to tank your career. 
I find it exhausting. And at that, I’d like to thank everyone who has taken the time to patiently educate this man who refuses to educate himself. You certainly did not have to spend your spoons here but it is appreciated.
I don’t doubt that this article will change nothing about how much she gets hired (I am a cynic after all), but WOW… I would say she’s solidly lost any claim to being “an extremely good judge”.
After the time I was told to smile by a male colleague from another department who happened to be walking down the hallway outside my department while I was busy photocopying a stack of paperwork, I have been inspired to point out gender biases at every reasonable opportunity.
I was facing a wall and doing my job (photocopying for my own work, not providing a service to anyone else), and I was expected to keep a smile on my face in case anyone happened to walk by, look into my department, and see me standing there. No one can tell me that men and women are treated equally - that would never have been said to a man. There are so many unconscious biases against women that push us to act a certain way and to fit a certain image/behaviour. Of course, not everything is perfect for men (being expected to suppress “feminine” emotions, etc.), but on average, men have a lot more advantages even when they don’t realize it.
You’re not wrong. It is exhausting and quite honestly disappointing. The individual in question works professionally as a scientist, if his COTH presence is anything to be trusted, and that he can’t wrap his mind around biases is quite disheartening. Especially if he teaches students – equestrians or not – there will be implicit biases and if this thread is anything to go on, he has no desire to address them.
Ironically, I have to have documented sexual bias protocols in place with the NIH. If you look at my student demographics, I maintain a 50:50 student population even in male dominated programs. My clinical research reflects a demographic equal to the national sexual demographic. I am well aware of bias and I have yet to see any in the horse industry as applied to competitors. And not one person yet has provided any definitive proof.
I would say that your arguments fail both legal and scientific veracity and simply exist in anecdotes that further your own perceptions.
So then this SINGLE example implies that there is a definitive bias That this thread claims?
"Gender bias is often a form of unconscious or implicit bias. It happens when someone unintentionally attributes certain attitudes and stereotypes to someone else. "
Because gender bias is UNCONSCIOUS and happens UNINTENTIONALLY I am not surprised that men don’t recognize how universal it is, as they are doing it unconsciously and unintentionally. Even my husband said “well, men are more competitive”. There is little point arguing with men who do not see the problem.
Oh ffs come on.
I could write post after post about things I have witnessed like this and experienced in my line of work too. Very old boys club. Thankfully my current employer is amazing and that stuff doesn’t fly, but the other offices I worked in…whooo.
I’ll give one example. Guy wants a sales job, no experience, gets hired. Gets salary, gets an assistant to manage all his files. Guys does nothing all day, in 2 years, he sells around $22k. Monthly goals are $25k, for an idea.
Several women want to go into sales in our office. Many with years and years of experience in the field. They never get the chance. Some of them sell more than $22k a month, on top of looking after all the clients. Years go by…
Guy still has not sold anything. Guy has mental health issues (not really, he just wanted out since people were finally figuring out he wasn’t doing his work). Takes leave for stress. See him on instagram a few weeks later at a bender with his NHL player friend…see him out in town on total coke binges. Etc, etc.
Boss asks me, “what happened with guy? I don’t just don’t get it?” " HE HAD SO MUCH POTENTIAL".
Guy literally never showed potential, never did work. Just had a penis and a nice smile. But the man always has potential, the woman has to work 200 times as hard to get NOTICED.
Finally, a woman gets a sales position. Makes top sales agent almost every month of her first year. Gets no recognition. No other women since have been moved to sales since. The cycle continues.
my dude
how about you read the article first, instead of just spouting off when you don’t even seem to grasp what people are discussing, yeah?
Also, trying to weaponize your education level isn’t really helping your arguments. You’re far from the only PhD-level scientist on these forums, and I feel like you try to use that to gain clout with your argument, but it just comes across as “I’m Big Important Scientist, therefore you should listen to me.”
You don’t always have to speak up when you don’t know what’s being discussed. You’re not obligated.
LOL you aren’t the only one.
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