Are you “good enough” for the equestrian world?

Suicide is not simply a single cause. Those who have taken their lives had much deeper issues than being in the horse world. We can be sad about their situation but they are the only ones who can fix themselves. All we can do is live our lives and hope they somehow see a path using our example as a guiding light.

Burning out due to death is not unique. Look at the worlds of emergency services and the military. Those who survive, and maybe even thrive, in those situations are able to define what their own life is to themselves. They can be sad but still find joy in simply being alive in a moment.

I would suggest you seek some aid in dealing with your feelings and perceptions to enable you to find what gives you purpose and joy at the most simple.

As I said, to me competition is more than competing. Yes, I love running fast and jumping big things. Getting a ribbon is fun too. BUT, sitting by the schooling ring watching low level rides, sharing a lunch and soda, talking about the past with friends, rooting for terrified kids or adults at their big competition, enjoying the sun and solitude as your horse munches hay, that is what makes it all worth it for me.

Here is the only video I took at an international competition. At the end of the day where we had two stops on course, I am in shorts and flip flops, most of the competitors have left and I still felt more peace than I ever had winning at the FEI levels or the A/O jumpers. Maybe that tells you where I am coming from.

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Well said.

As to the title of the thread: Are you “good enough” for the equestrian world?"

Absolutely I am. My horses’ welfare and care comes first, before competitive success or Instagram likes or any other comparative measure. I’ve surrounded myself with people who think the way I do and have the same values, and I only do things with horses that bring me happiness (well, that and pay vet bills :joy:). My horses get to BE horses, and while I expect them to be good citizens, I also TEACH them those skills in a way that makes sense. I am always trying to learn how to be a better horseman, and I have FUN.

I think that makes me plenty good enough for the equestrian world.

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This.

I’m not sure what being “good enough” is supposed to mean here.

Good enough… to win at the upper levels?
Good enough… morally or ethically?
Good enough… to feel like an accepted member of the inner circle?
Good enough… to counteract the mistreatment and poor sportsmanship you’ve witnessed?

I understand the part about losing the magical aspects of being around horses when younger. I still felt that way when I was competing as a younger adult ammy and doing all the adult medals. I had an almost romanticized vision of the equestrian world. Then it all came crashing down when I started riding for some BNTs and saw the more sullied side of showing. I began to think, “Is this the way it has to be? Do I even want to be here?”

As an aside, eventually three of my former trainers and coaches ended up vilified by Safe Sport. I even contributed testimony against one of them. Were they good enough for the equestrian world? Was I?

After taking time away from showing, I came back to it at a smaller, more local level where it was more about tailgating parties, encouraging sportsmanship and hands-on horse care with the youth, and planning the end of the year championship show. I tried different disciplines and had adventures in each one. Now I do ranch riding, reining and dabble in western dressage. I’m having a blast!

Ultimately I’ve learned that the only magic in the horse world is the magic I create between my horse and myself. It can be at a show, in a lesson or clinic, on a trail ride or simply grooming my mare in the crossties. I know I will always be good enough for that world.

OP, I hope you find your peace.

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This was my first thought after reading the OP a couple of times. I can’t relate to the sentiments in that post at all, but I am in a completely different horse scene.

I have a classic New England farm where my horses live out 24/7, and access to hundreds of miles of roads and trails out the gate. I have no “help,” it’s just me and, luckily, a great farrier and vet who still make farm calls. I live in one of the last meccas of distance riding on the East Coast, and never take it for granted for a minute. I work a demanding job so my horse ambitions are extremely modest- long, slow, effective conditioning to do the shorter endurance events with my hardy little Morgans. And the satisfaction of looking out the window every morning when I wake up and seeing them at the gate waiting for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I understand how heartbreaking horses can be - I lost two beloved mares within a 3 month span last year; we just passed the one-year anniversary of losing my first horse, which hurt tremendously. The anniversary of losing the second one is coming up in March, and that one hurts even more because it was an out of the blue, horrific colic that took her way too young.

Yet I feel like I’m living the dream with a farm and horses of my own, without a care in the world about keeping up with the proverbial Joneses. If you’re fulfilling a lifelong dream, it’s supposed to bring joy. Why ruin it by succumbing to someone else’s expectations?

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The top level hunter jumper horse show world had been described as, ruefully, on other threads here discussing the topic, the horse-show-industrial-complex and the “check-book Olympics.” After basic needs are met, money does not buy happiness. Buying things provides people with a short term buzz, then people go back to their baseline. In contrast, using money to gain experiences has a more sustained impact on one’s fulfillment. Applying this to the horse show world: an amateur showing up to compete their horse that was trained, groomed and tacked up by others is experiencing something quite different than an amateur whose focus/priority is on the long-term/life-long journey of improving their training, horse care, and horsemanship skills.

The current h/j show structure of week-long shows cultivates/promotes participants to focus primarily on the show ring, and leave the horse care and training to trainers and staff. For the majority of people who have jobs/school/other responsibilities Monday-Friday, they can only be at the show on the weekends, so the horse care has to be done by someone else. The inadvertent impact of this is that it is shortchanging people on some of the most fulfilling and impactful aspects of our interactions with horses: grooming, hand-walking, hand grazing, etc. In general, people who love horses love spending quality time doing these things. Effectively removing these aspects from the horse show scene, is without question reducing overall happiness and contentment, for no actual reason, other than this is the current structure of showing.

I have a high-pressure, demanding career outside of horses. On the rare occasions that I can take a week off from work and take my horse to a rated show, I am extremely happy to be there. I do everything myself and I cherish every minute of it. I love spending all day with my horses; my horses are also quite content at shows and get lots of hand-walking and hand-grazing. Showing without doing all of this myself would just seem empty and flat.

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All of this!! The horse people that impress me the most are the ones that put their horses first. I went down a couple rabbit holes that starting is April this year over tripping/knee buckling/lameness issues against a lot of real life peoples opinions. Glad I did because it’s managed (for now) after 8 month; we just got the go ahead to increase workload. If I had listened to a number of people in my circles that the tripping was “being distracted/not paying attention/he just trips” I would have been doing him a huge disservice and one that could have gotten both of us seriously injured.

OP if your “good enough” doesn’t match the “industry” sounds like it’s time to self reflect and maybe re-align your give-a-darn-about-what-other-people-are-doing meter. After a lot of showing as a kid, I saw the ugly side of the industry and decided to march to the beat of my own horsey drum. Haven’t looked back.

Money and show records mean so little to me at this point if people still aren’t putting their horses first.

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The horse world you create should be the one that brings you joy. Not one that involves the things that you describe. I have a lovely horse. He’s a nicer horse than I am a rider and could probably spend week long shows being ridden by a pro and clean up at the AA shows. That’s not my scene. So I campaign him at a lovely local show series that’s been going for 75 years. A bunch of us rent RVs. To stay on site. We Trailer our own horses to the grounds and have a glorious weekend of cheering each other on, eating drinking and getting merry.
I hunter pace my horse, go on trail rides, swim him in the lake, take 2 jumping lessons a week and am starting to dabble in dressage. If I can muster the cojones I’m thinking about looking into eventing.

That’s the beauty of horses. There are so many different paths to happiness and fulfillment and you can do it with kindness and ethics. If you don’t like the road you’ve been navigating maybe take the one less travelled. I bet that will make all the difference.

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I’m not good enough for the horse industry, but I’m good enough for myself. I always wanted a fancy show horse but what what I’ve always ended up with are those that need an abundance of TLC. Yes, I’ve shown a lot, but never met the lofty goals I had when I was younger. But I enjoy fixing up the ones that come my way. They are my friends and that’s my “good enough”.

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Wanting to be “good enough of an equestrian” in the world the OP describes is like wanting to move to LA and be the best human amidst the Hollywood sect and wondering why people are only concerned about money and fame and take advantage of each other. You can be your best self anywhere. You can find like minded people pursuing like minded goals. With joy and ethics and kindness. It doesn’t make sense to immerse yourself in a culture that you know is not set up for that and bang your head against the wall wondering why things are so bad. Be the change you desire. There are many of us equestrians who treat our horses like gold, enjoy them at all different levels and pursuits and surround ourselves with people who we admire and like and share the same principles with. You are the company you keep.

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Excellent take :clap::clap::clap:

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maybe you are asking the wrong question, ie. am I good enough? there are always fancier horses than yours, better riders, nicer barns, bigger trucks. comparisons will only make you feel less good.Instead ask yourself “how do I find meaning in the sport I love?”

I’m happy every time I’m around my horses; I suspect most people on this board feel the same way. But it’s not about showing, it’s about the relationship w a truly marvelous animal.

You can find your way again.

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You need to find yourself a different group of horse friends if you don’t feel “good enough”.

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THIS. So today I grabbed my fire ant bait to go douse new piles that showed up (I’m in TX) and both my OTTBs came running to see what I was doing and came with me as I walked around the pastures. The 4-yr old lap dog OTTB was positive the bucket had something edible (NOT!) and in my face and hands (literally) while my 10-yr old was afraid of the white bucket. So we had a grand time killing fire ants together. Bounce at a bit of a distance with Banjo in my face the whole time. That makes my day.

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Going professional can suck the life out of any hobby. Even going super serious ammie.

Your equestrian world is what you make it.

If you want to play in the A shows with the daughters of billionaire celebrities, it’s going to be a tough ride even if you are one of those daughters!!!

But no one says horses have to be high end hunter jumper competition.

What did you love about horses as a child? How can you recreate that outside competition? You just have to let go of the urge to compete and get validation from that.

There was enough bad stuff in the old days. It’s just that as a kid your trainers shielded you from it.

You won’t find the horse people outside the tiny box of h/j until you get outside it

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I haven’t read all the responses, but I have to tell you I lead a similar life as you and I have been feeling the exact same way. 4 horses on the A Circuit? Trainer says that’s not enough. Brand new custom jump as barn gift for Xmas? Not even a thank you. Tipped the groom $1000 for Christmas? The gossip at the barn is that you are cheap. I’m not even touching on the in fighting and constant one-up-man ship. I agree with you 100% and in recent years have made actual plans to slow down and change my focus in the coming years. I need away from it.

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