Attention Parents- What is wrong???

[system]

How can we allow Jonathan Soresi and Ken Krauss around our children?

This is disgusting, allowing these Pedophiles to run around the horse shows like their own personal playgrouds!

Its even more disgusting how people feed into them. I mean children take interviews by Kenny Krauss, what kind of mother would let their child have a sit down with convicted (numerous times) sex offender?

This disgusts me, also the horse shows that allow them on the grounds and even hire Soresi to judge should be shut down. You are welcoming a pedophile to “watch” our children and paying them!!! When is this going to end?

Lets get a petiton going, I am just about fed up here, I wonder if going to the press will help, they would eat this up like exposing your children in beauty pagents. Where are the morals?

Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer

Kenneth L Kraus
Date Of Photo: 12/08/2006
Designation: Sexual Offender
Name: Kenneth L Kraus
Status: Supervision
Department of Corrections #: 463041
Search the Dept of Corrections Website
Date of Birth: 03/22/1950
Race : White
Sex: Male
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Blue
Height: 6’00"
Weight: 230 lbs

Kraus is registered as a Sexual Offender.
Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.

Aliases
Kenneth Kraus
Scars, Marks & Tattoos
TATTOO RIGHT ARM:COWS HEAD UPPER;,TATTOO RIGHT ARM:COWS HEAD UPPER;
Address Information
Address City State Zip County Address Source Information
11770 SAINT ANDREWS PL 7-102
WELLINGTON FL 33414-7080 PALM BEACH Source: Dept. of Corrections
Received: 06/29/2007
Type of Address: Permanent
Out of State
Willoughby OH 44094-7935 Lake Source: Registration
Received: 07/11/2007
Type of Address: Temp

Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses
Adjudication Date Crime Description Court Case Number Jurisdiction & State Adjudication
12/16/1994 LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL) 9402302 PALM BEACH, FL Adjudication Withheld

SYRACUSE, N.Y. – The New Jersey Horse trainer charged with possession of child pornography will be on probation for the next 10 years.

Jonathan Soresi will also have to register as a level one sex offender. He was charged last November after he brought his laptop computer to Circuit City for repairs.

Police say he was in Syracuse for a horse show. The store contacted authorities after discovering child pornography on the laptop.

Soresi may still be able to teach young students 17 and under how to ride, but only at the discretion of his probation officer.

Soresi, of New Jersey, travels the country with his job as a horse trainer.

[Just_My_Style]

Well, I know this is thread is going to derail any second, but I have to get this comment in first. It is the responsibility of the parents to protect their kids. They either need to watch them 24/7, if they choose to patronize the shows that allow these men or choose shows where these men do not frequent (that would be my choice). I know there is a lot of legal issues surrounding why they can still be at the shows. I am neither in law enforcement or an attorney. However, I am a parent. As a parent, I am very careful of where I take my kids. I watch their every move like a bulldog and I am ready to pull them out of any situation where I suspect they could be harmed. Just because a place is a horse show does not mean it is completely safe. It is like anywhere else. There are predators everywhere. Parents need to protect their kids. Period.

[BarbB]

It is a long honored tradition in the horse show world to look the other way. I have never understood this.

I saw a post on another similar thread saying that USEF would not take action because they were afraid of law suits from the individuals. I can understand that. Outrageous settlements are awarded in bizarre cases. But if exhibitors are really fed up (which I personally doubt) USEF could easily be put in the position of having to chose between a law suit from a few individuals or a lawsuit filed on behalf of hundreds of exhibitors and their children along with all the accompanying media hoopla.

Nothing will be done as long as this is whispered about in the stables but never made public.

[entropygal]

i personally would think the USEF would worry about those lawsuits from parents/children rather than the individuals…alot more sympathy for victims than perps!

the usef, like the catholic church, is the one with the deep (or deeper at least) pockets!

[Just_My_Style]

As the always say, money talks. If all the people who were genuinely concerned refused to show at any event where these men frequented, I am sure someone would take notice. As long as the stalls are full, the entries keep rolling in and everyone walks around like there isn’t an issue, no one seems to think there is a problem.

[moonriverfarm]

JustMyStyle, you hit the nail on the head. They don’t care if it’s a pedophile as ling as that pedophile makes them money. Bad press is better than no press too - didn’t you know that?
There is something extremely upsetting and offensive about having a sexual predator watching little girls in tight pants posting on a horse.:mad:

[goeslikestink]

and i can tell you from my heart what i think they should be banned
having had my sister little boy caught byone it doesnt end there for the child they have re live that by being tested and then the closer family memebers have to pick up the pieces
to make that young person feel at home in his society which is down right hard when hes or she has had there innoncence taken away--------- how they cope how it effect them and how it effect where you live an the people also take offensive of the vitim my sister has been spat at and called names and for what - for a nieghbour that got hold of her child where was he playing out side her front door ------- she went in for a pee and it can happen that quick but shes at fault ------ nno shes not shes a goood mum and has to live with those consequences of her absent for the rest of her life and so to does her son

these people are vile and should not be allowed to trian or show
only a little while ago here in uk we had a trianer well know and he was cuaght he was named and shamed rightly so and banned from bsja i do believe as he was an accreddited trianer

these people take the soles out of people there way of life and there future lives
and they should be locked up as they pray on the young – and i for one can and do know exactly what that means ----------and i for one would be the vitims voice
and shout out aloud and runa petition so this kind of charactor - is not allowoed anywhere near kids in any kind of from of teachings or exhibtions they are child rapest end off

[ckennington]

I agree with all, especially Just My Style. I can’t take on the Catholic Church or the USEF, although we are members of both. My only recourse is to have my eyes open 24/7 to protect my children, educate them as to what is acceptable behavior from an adult, and empower/educate them to defend themselves if an adult behaves inappropriately.

There are too many protective institutions for the criminal adults in these situations, and very few protections for the children.:no:

[magnolia73]

You know, you can ban whoever you want from working at horseshows. But the fact of the matter is that horseshows are open to the public. Not to mention, the labor pool is largely undocumented workers… who knows what their criminal record may hold. You have no better chance of controlling the people around your child at a show then you do at an amusement park.

I’m not a parent… but I do think that one needs to use common sense and make sure that you A. Know the person you hire to be around your kid and make sure they know who they hire and B. take responsibility for keeping track of your child at public venues, whether you watch them or hire a trusted sitter to do it for you.

Even if the USEA said no one with a criminal past can work at a horse show, it does not stop strange characters from “spectating”

There are too many protective institutions for the criminal adults in these situations, and very few protections for the children.

YOU are the protector of that child. It is YOUR responsibility as a parent to accompany your child at these things. Would you let your kid go to the amusement park unattended? Then why let them roam around the show unsupervised? There is no rule that can protect your child from being kidnapped or looked at. Surely, we can punish after the fact, but no law can prevent it.

[JrHunterRider]

As said above, money talks. This scenerio is so typical in the “horse world”, and it’s just overlooked and heads are turned the other way. We know trainers/professionals have relations with their clients, and people just keep coming to them and giving them their money because, well let’s face it, the trainer will make the child known in the horse world as a rider. It stinks that we allow this.

I’m not a parent yet, but parents need to keep an eye out for their child. It’s their resposibility to keep that child safe. Yes, children are children and they can quickly escape our watchful eyes, but if more people looked out for them they wouldn’t be in situations such as above.

I just can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in public places (such as the beach) and see children and even toddlers running ahead or way behind their parents as they are walking around. The parents need to keep their children right with them. Most of the blame does fall on the sex offenders, but shouldn’t some also fall on the parents who don’t keep an eye on their children?

[backinthebay]

I agree, watch your children like a hawk.

That being said it is always better to reduce the risk.

Here is a suggestion. I will not participate because I don’t want to be part of destroying the USEF. That might make me a coward but we all have to make our own choices.

dateline@nbcuni.com <dateline@nbcuni.com>

That is dateline nbc’s email address

I bet twenty or thirty emails from concerned parents and there will be a story.

Pertinent points;
multiple convicted child predators are allowed at USEF shows
board of directors refuse to do anything about it
Ken Krause(sp)
Johnathan Soresi
GR702 in USEF rulebook gives them plenty of power to due something
There isn’t many other true options for high end hunter/jumper riding in the US

Before you do this make sure you are ready for the consequences. This could have a very very bad effect on our sport.

[magnolia73]

JrHunterRider-
Sadly, many parents completely lack common sense. I saw it in Lake Placid, going up White Face Mountain and watching kids climb over protective railings while Mom meekly said “Oh, you’ll get hurt”… “careful”… “please stop”. It’s a CLIFF and obvious danger. Grab your stupid kid and put the fear of God into him. I can see how they stick their kids with sketchy trainers and take off.

When I taught, many would deposit their kids at the barn without even meeting me. I used to drive one kid home- no idea what mom looked like- but she let me teach her kid to ride and drive her around. Heck, I could have been a drunk.

[bosox]

I sent mine in to dateline

here is the title of my email

sex offenders still being hired to watch little girls in tights

We don’t have any plans to come back to the hunter world–but all children need protection–and yes parents should watch like a hawk…but these greaseballs are sneaky and sly–and come in like a theif in the night.:mad:

[Nikki]

@JrHunterRider;2625000

Most of the blame does fall on the sex offenders, but shouldn’t some also fall on the parents who don’t keep an eye on their children?

OK, so it’s the parents fault too that the trainer, who they thought they could trust, turns out to be a predator? Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Have someone that you trusted get all handies with you? It’s not fun I can tell you that. It’s not something that goes away with time either whether it happened to you as a child, teenager or an adult.

How about you and the rest of the juniors/children riders not got away to month long shows then? How about you stick to 1 day and local shows? Would you be willing to give that up? Give up the big “A” circuit so your parents can keep an eye on you?

It just makes me sick that just because these trainers have money and power, they can get away with this. What I don’t get is how can those predators like child/teenager porn? It’s just gross. How could they find a child attractive in that way?

I say get the media involved and you will see how quickly the USEF will ban these predators. I know Bill O’ Rilley would love to hear about this story.

[ckennington]

I agree with Magnolia 73. Sadly, WE, THE PARENTS, ARE THE ONLY PROTECTOR OF OUR CHILDREN. However, it sure would be nice to have some help. With more than one child, a parent truly has to have eyes in the back of our heads. In addition, a firm sense, with the child, of who the authority is helps. I also see lack of parenting wherever I go. Children who think they have the authority vs. parent are often in danger.

Most parents I know are putting in 1000% to keep their children safe. Many parents agree that raising children today is completely different than when we grew up. Little did we know…We learned about Stranger Danger, but were able to run free with our friends in the neighborhoods and communities we grew up in…not anymore.

Most children don’t run free and play without a care - without at least one parent watching their every move, and those who drive by.

[BarbB]

In all fairness to USEF and the sport, it would make more sense to go directly to USEF. If I was a parent of a participating child, I would want to hear for myself directly from the source that they can’t/won’t do anything before running off to the media.
That’s Plan B.

[Kenike]

I agree with BarbB. Totally.

BITB, you said “I will not participate because I don’t want to be part of destroying the USEF,” but that’s exactly what you’re doing by giving the idea and email of the media source to others. I’m not flaming you, just making sure you’re aware.

As a parent, I constantly worry about my little boy. He’s only 14 months, so I have a little while before he’s doing whatever sport or activity (and, yes, I hope he wants to ride). Yes, it is completely my responsibility to teach him what’s proper, as well as look out for his interests. I am also aware that I need to supervise his lessons/practices/whatevers, as well as check out the trainer/coach/whomever. Not everyone is aware of those things, though. Having someone who is a sex offender or pediphile pointed out to them is a good idea, at least IMO, if for no other reason than to keep them vigilant.

But there will always be parents who will let their kids play and stay with Michael Jackson. No matter what, the awareness will help some while others decide to remain blind and ignorant.

[pds]

I urge each of you to write the USEF and find out what their official postion is on dealing with convicted sexual predators and them having access to our young people at USEF sanctioned events.

If you find the response to be unsatisfactory then write to the likes of Dateline NBC, Bill O’Reilly, etc.

[backinthebay]

[QUOTE=Kenike;2625300]
I agree with BarbB. Totally.

BITB, you said “I will not participate because I don’t want to be part of destroying the USEF,” but that’s exactly what you’re doing by giving the idea and email of the media source to others. I’m not flaming you, just making sure you’re aware.

As a parent, I constantly worry about my little boy. He’s only 14 months, so I have a little while before he’s doing whatever sport or activity (and, yes, I hope he wants to ride). Yes, it is completely my responsibility to teach him what’s proper, as well as look out for his interests. I am also aware that I need to supervise his lessons/practices/whatevers, as well as check out the trainer/coach/whomever. Not everyone is aware of those things, though. Having someone who is a sex offender or pediphile pointed out to them is a good idea, at least IMO, if for no other reason than to keep them vigilant.

But there will always be parents who will let their kids play and stay with Michael Jackson. No matter what, the awareness will help some while others decide to remain blind and ignorant.[/QUOTE]

I understand what you are saying. I have been going over this in my head for several days(from other similar threads). I guess that’s probably obvious by the warning at the end of my post.

That being said, many people have gone to the USEF including committee members (John Sorsei(SP) thread first post third page). They considered a morals clause last year and choose not to.

I know you are not trying to flame me at all. This is the last thing I want! But USEF’s actions have made it quite clear they are not going to do anything about this. This discussion has been going on for a long time. I am not the first to suggest such action. USEF IS DESTROYING ITSELF BY TURNING A BLINDEYE. Their answer is they are concerned about lawsuits. That is obviously ridiculuos, no preditor is going to win a suit to let them deal with juniors.

To make it clear my position is they should be banned from events where juniors compete. There are many ways they can continue earning a living without dealing with children i.e. breeding/training young horses.

Plan A hasn’t worked. I made suggestion, that is it. Just throwing it out there. Question; what stopped the killing of horses for insurance? For those who where not around back then…TV expose.

[Kenike]

cool Glad you caught that I wasn’t trying to be mean.

And, I agree with you. USEF is doing themselves a non-favor by turning a blind eye, and I feel they made a mistake by letting this issue go by the fly last year. However, maybe if we parents KEEP ON THEM, they’ll realize that it is a big deal. Truly. And maybe, just maybe they’ll do something about it.