Baby Greenie Support Group now open: Share Your Pain!

(…or is that assimilation…)

but to be completely honest, the thread got too unweildy for me after the initial 10 pages or so. However, realizing that my resistance (to green horses ) is futile, I must seek the wisdom of the group.

As some may recall, I ride a 5 y/o OTTB (Seven) after work. Very often, these rides are well after normal, sane folks are in bed, which invariably leaves me with no option but working in the indoor ring. Not very exciting stuff, but it WAS working out fine for all concerned until work (ick) interfered at the same time we moved the horses to the new barn (with its 35 minute drive time) and Seven ended up with an unscheduled and unsupervised extended holiday.

Because he had some time off, everything is ‘new’ again. So, we have to work past the demons in the jump rail pile, the scary barn cats, and the spooky door… sigh But that’s not really an issue.

What is the problem is the length of time it takes him to settle and finally WORK each evening. Whenever I ride, he needs a certain amount to time to settle and ‘get the bucks out’. I usually ride through this but my riding time is limited and our actual working time becomes fairly short. (E.g., it used to take 5 to 10 minutes of goofiness…now we are approaching 30 to 35 minutes of scooting, snorting, bucking, spinning, etc.) I know that eventually he’ll come around but it’s taking a lot of time and we’re not making much progress. It doesn’t help that I’m frequently more tired from the drive and my patience is dwindling (though I’ve managed to keep my composure while we’re working together…or rather while I’m working and he’s acting like an idiot ). It also doesn’t help that I’ve noticed Seven has started not to find these sessions any more fun than I do. Our partnership is suffering as a result.

One solution (and something that worked when he first came off the track) is that he will settle into work much more quickly if I lunge first. I used this in the beginning not only to settle him but also because he had so much to learn so the lunge time was not really nutty time, it was 75% work and 25% goofiness. I’m worried that that ratio might reverse now because he simply does not have as much to learn and I’ll end up with a fitter, disobedient horse who thinks that lunging is merely the time to act like a maniac.

So, I’m not sure what to do…should I make him ‘work’ on the lunge (which then means that the lunging session becomes my whole ride time because I still have to make him settle before he can work)…or should I just give in, let him work some energy off on a short lunging session so that we can get the most progress out of our riding time?

Thanks for letting me vent…sorry for the lengthy post…yet another drawback to riding late at night with no one else awake.

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I just haven’t been the same since that house fell on my sister.

and I’m going to kill it. but I need to be part of the Baby Green Support Group.

My four year old TB has been bad, bad, bad lately. He is in the horrible teen-ager stage, a juvenile delinquent. My trainer this morning said we have a “discipline problem”. He has decided that he doesn’t want to work anymore, and gets royally pissed off when I ask. This morning’s goal was simply to GO STRAIGHT. He can do this, don’t let him fool you. He is quite capable, he just doesn’t wanna.

We get kicking out, we get tail swishing, head in the air, bucking, etc. And only two months ago, we got firsts in our two dressage classes where the judge said “he is a wonderful horse, he just wants to please you”. Where has my sweet boy gone? Who replaced him with Evil Meshach?

The past five weeks I have been involved with my sick dog and Meshach didn’t get ridden much, he enjoyed a life of leisure. Well, unfortunately for him, he will be seeing a lot more of me from now on.

well, i will say i am lucky that this mare gets the idea of forward and never has to lunged-all in all she’s a great greenie but that canter…now my four yr old on the other hand has been banned to lunge work and ground driving till his attitude straightens-i finally got tired of riding a bucking bronco every time…

“There are times when you can trust a horse, time when you can’t, and times when you have to.”

You were riding Gramento BAREBACK???!!!

Wow Duffy you are brave!!!

Oh yes, Bumpkin, I guess I should reveal that that’s why Hammie is making so much progress lately. Georgina has been schooling and showing him for me.

I must say, I’ve never encountered a snow cone machine at a show. The story about the flowers and evergreens reminds me of my old Dutch mare, Syracuse. She was really spooky about a viaduct/aqueduct wall at one rated show. Those are the brick walls with the cut-out arches in them. I have this one photo where I booted her off the ground and she kind of jumped like a helicopter, LOL! So my dear brother, out in California on vacation, got out the saw and built me my own acqueduct wall! Of course, because a man built it, it was so heavy it couldn’t be moved and eventually rotted in place, but it served its purpose!

“Friends don’t let friends eat fish tacos.”

Mom took me out of my stall just before dinner the other day. Not that anyone was being fed but in was nearing the time, and I was getting hungry.

It had been almost a lifetime since my last grain, and she started to clean me up. What was she thinking? Surely she didn’t think I could consentrate on what she wanted?

So we get to the area that I am supposed to do all this work in. Sometimes it isn’t so bad, we get to jump and I really like that. She is making me use my butt, asks for me to bend left but by the time she asked me to bend right I had had enough. It was dinner time and I tried my darnedest to let her know.

I started to buck down the long side in hopes that she would get the hint. Nope, she worked me harder, and longer. When will I ever learn?

So I was being a good boy, and after a cool down and a shower she finally let me back to eat. But it didn’t come…so I waited for what seemed eternity. Then she came back and there it was…My dinner. I thought she had forgotten. I love my mommy, just don’t get too close admire me from afar.

We’ll all be thinking of you. I can’t begin to tell you how much we all hope you will be A-OK!

I see trees of green, red roses too. I watch 'em bloom for me and for you. And I think to myself … what a wonderful world. Yes, what a wonderful world." – Louie Armstrong.

I wouldn’t throw the term “half arab” around here so loosely

What show will you be going to? Huntington Beach I hope!

Love the hoof quilt/batting suggestion! Like El Ranchito isn’t home to some hoof abcesses occasionally.

And Laurie, darling, do we dare ask how The Lovely Tess gave you a shiner? I have some nice hickies that Hammie has given me from, uhm, “kissing me” on the arm. Yeah, that was it. He wasn’t really biting me, per se…

I also love how all of our babies seem to be progressing. I’m forcing myself to consider that show season is encroaching, although I don’t think Hambolarama will make an appearance until spring. Barbie Cow and Tigger need to get some experience under their belts (or girths). Frankly, I’m enjoying my trail rides up in the hills in my new-fangled western tack. Yup, that’s me, up in the hills of Norco aboard my warmbloods! Yee-haw!

“Friends don’t let friends eat fish tacos.”

Yes DMK, that was at Wills Park.

I wish I’d known you were there. At six, I was still just hanging around waiting for something to happen.

Wore my COTH cap all day Sunday though.

Hmm… I posted earlier but it seems to have disappeared!

Merry and Beezer, looks like you too have been sucked in by the QHs! Not a bad thing, in my opinion. Keep us updated on him. What’s his name?

EqChika, your mare sounds lovely… I’ve heard only very good things about the Norfleet line. Would love to see some pics if you have some!

I’m going to attempt to attach a pic of my filly. Its about six months old, from this summer, but its the latest I have of her! I really need to take some more asap. Her background info for those who haven’t heard before… 15.2 QH filly, coming 3, just started under saddle. She’s foundation bred, daddy was a halter horse and momma was a reiner. As of right now her career is undertermined, tho I think she’ll be pretty versatile.

I think you will find most of us are “older” getting back into riders!!
You will find lots of support from all of us “Baby Greenie” owners.

Feel free to ramble on and on, most of us do!!!

That’s so awesome!

.:Erin B #2:.
You cannot stop us, you cannot bring us down,
Never give up, we go on and on.

Merry… Just wait until he figures out he can make more room for himself if he swaps at the base

I think Merry is going to come forth at the top of a new page, JMHO hahahaha

Also Duffy your photo was absolutely gorgeous dahling!!!

“Have You Hugged Your Trainer Today?”

Elliot had me sitting to the right all the time
I was constantly adjusting the saddle.

Every lesson several times I would be told I was riding to the right toooo much!!

Finally my trainer one day apologized thinking it was ME all the time. It is actually Elliot being much smarter than I give him credit for.
He makes everyone ride him on his right.
Again Balance, Balance, Balance, move him on.

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wendy:
now my baby has decided that in the indoor, he can only jump over jumps in the direction away from the in-gate. If you try to jump over the EXACT SAME JUMP, five seconds later, in the opposite direction, he just can’t do it. Crash through it, stop dead, run out, anything except leave the ground.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wendy, now that’s a weird one. You’d think he’d
want to jump going towards the in-gate. At what time did you ride him? Were the sun shadows looking spooky around the jump going in that direction?

Riley, at certain times during the day, wouldn’t even go NEAR one whole side of the arena, because of the way the sun was coming through some slats…

My daughter’s pony sometimes jumps the rays of late afternoon sunlight, thinking they’re a pole or something? Other times, she just takes it as an excuse to drop her shoulder, spook, buck and take off!

What does your horse do with other jumps set to and away from the in-gate? This is making me quite curious!

I also believe in the practice that you can’t expect a long attention span. I like the “when you’re thinking ‘just one more time’, it’s probably beyond his span” (not direct quote - sorry - but think it’s close? ). Also, believe in the going back to things the baby is comfortable, in hopes that he DOES still remember them and you’re not opening up a whole nuther can of worms!!!

On a positive note, my trainer actually let me trot in/canter out of a line yesterday!!! Cheap thrills! LOLOL

DMK I am shamelessly going for the big 4000 posts!! haha

So I guess that Elliot must be a Mahogany Bay, haha, although the Blood Bay to Orange is still better than Bay to Mouseie Bay.

Belle noticed the cows
and sheep
and goats
in the model farm at Frying Pan.

We intended to school the cross country course (and we did, later), but first we spent about 15 minutes staring at the livestock. Then trying to run away. Then trembling. Then taking a step toward them. Then trying to run away again.

There was one hilarious moments when Belle and a brown cow were staring at each other. At EXACTLY the same moment they each took a step toward the other, then paniced and turned to run away.

Better now than when we are trying to do a dresage test in the field next to the model farm!

The CC school went great though. We went over several Training fences out beyond Newsomes Gap, the new fences in the cow field (with MORE cows in it), and even popped (at a VERY slow trot) over the Prelim “log on a lump”. We finished with Lovers Leap.

waving magic want over Caleb’s head

Yes, you CAN swap leads in the rear when you are asked to do so in front too!! Cross cantering is a BAD thing!

Oh yes, and the little bucks after he clears a jump that impresses him telling me how much fun he’s having and just how proud of himself he really is!

~Courtney~