Baby Greenie Support Group now open: Share Your Pain!

Perhaps I should develop an “O.Q.” for baby greenies, an “Obnoxiousness Quotient”. They’d be measured on:

  1. How often they chew anything constructed of wood or leather when you’re not looking.
  2. How long it takes them to utterly destroy their custom-made show blanket.
  3. The frequency they pull off their aluminum shoes, regardless of how well they’re shod or how well they’re booted up.
  4. The way they seem to delight in blowing a hack class by suddenly recognizing _____________.(Fill in distracting item of your choice).
  5. To what level they clearly display their distaste for your requests, i.e., kicking out when asked for a flying change, or rooting on the bit instead of suppling up for a sitting trot in an eq. class.

Then we could all ask, when looking at a prospective purchase, “So tell me, what’s this gelding’s O.Q.?”

“Charter Member of the Baby Greenie Support Group of North America”

I love riding my “Tank” or size wise compared to your “Tank” my “Tanklett”

I will keep my fingers crossed for “Tank” and “Tigger”

You can put me down as 48 3/4. Been rather quiet on this discussion group lately as we are still working on the Greenie problems that popped up in July. I think only my “maturity” allows me to be this patient.

Horse is a silly goose!

Member of the Baby Greenie Support Group

I swear she really does. We had a gymnastic, trot 3 poles to a short one to a normal one. All was fine until the jumps got up to about 3’3" and trainer was yelling at me for using an openning rein to keep her straight instead of my legs. So I plant my hands on her neck trot in and she veers left and runs out. Several times. So trainer gets on and jumps through perfectly 3 times all while in 2 point and hands grabbing mane to emphasise how EASY the exercise is! (read: even a frickin’ monkey tied to the saddle could get your horse through it!) I get back on - do exactly as trainer had done and she runs out again. I am not a passive rider and rarely get horses stopping. This was purely and attitude thing because she hates me. Eventually she decided to humor me and jumped through without a problem.

Next day I am cantering up to warm-up vertical and she runs out again. This time she only managed this trick twice and we jumped everything else in the ring afterward but not without me totally losing confidence in my horse and in myself.

So now I feel like a total worthless sack of potatoes on a horse. Ugh! I HATE that - especially because I USED to be able to ride. What happened?

On a good note, I got on Dekster for the first time at his new place. He stood like a statue as I got a leg up, and then went on his very first trail ride ever! He was perfect!

All I have to say is Jade better watch out because her replacement is coming up quickly on her heels!

Belle did her first Horse Trial on Saturday (Beginner Novice, 2’9") and she came in second!!!

We were tied for 5th after dressage with score of 38 (which corresponds to 62%). She was fixated on the judges booth, and FELT like a giraffe, but my husband videotaped it and it didn’t look as bad as it felt. After CC we were tied for second, as second, third and fourth place all had jump or time penalties. My time (3min 34 sec) was closer to optimum (4 min) than the rider I was tied with (3 min 20 sec). And we were clear in stadium.

In both CC and stadium, there were a couple of times that she needed to slow down, check things out, and regroup, but then she got down to business again.

She was definitely ready for this, but would not have been ready for Novice (3’).

Someone commented on how calmly she was standing before going into the start box. I said: “But this is her first time, she doesn’t yet know what comes next!”

Yeah Serendipity Sounds like he is willing, and at least trying. Sorry haven’t been to the horse care forum But sounds like you have the feed issues under control. That is a very hard time of the day, yikes like night, to have your horse pay any attention.

BustersMom, have a good show! Curbs they are a jangling for you…

LH - You better watch out or we may take you up on your offer! How lovely it looks there. After b*tching about maybe having to move to Cincinnati with Mr. Chef I started thinking…well KY wouldn’t be SOOOO bad!

Lucky Me - Jade is my first “attempt” at owning a mare…and a chestnut to boot! My trainer already said “NO MORE MARES!” after having to put up with her BS.

But she certainly keeps things interesting! And I love her to death.

Okay, I’m going to intrude, but I am invisible, so my post will disappear before anyone can read it.

I thought I’d share with you the first month of my dtr riding her new greenie (#1 is not much challenge lately). He’s a 4 yr old ottb, last raced June 2001. We bought him in August and my dtr has just been working on him gaining weight and bonding. He’s a grandson of Buckpasser and a great grandson of Alydar. I posted his picture recently for some critiques and got some good advice for my dtr to work on his hind end. Anyway, its kind of long, but since my posts disappear, well, here goes (I cut and pasted this from JB’s board so I would not have to type 2x’s):

From my stand point watching outside the arena, everything looks to be progressing even if it has been difficult.

Shadow is not Rio (greenie #1). No easy going, “what do you want me to do now, mom?” type of guy. More of a “I don’ wanna, I don’ wanna, well, okay I’ll do it if we have to and you make me, but…I don’ wanna, I don’ wanna”. He’s too cute and too readable. He’ll be going fine, then a skip and a hop, then fine again.

He is going real well to the left at walk/trot once he settles down and decides he has to work. They always start to the left. But going right…what a workout for my dtr! It’s mostly a fight to keep him going that way with him trying to turn around and go back to the left. Got some nice sidepasses out of it, too! Lots of inside leg and an open outside rein and eventually, she will get a nice couple of laps around. To accomplish this, they have to do some circles to the right several times until he settles, then go down the line. Sometimes he will stop completely and just dance with his front legs, kind of like a small rear (not more than about 4 to 6 inches off the ground) since he sets back on his hind end.

And, he has finally stopped bucking when she mounts. Not to worry, it was only a couple of quick hops of defiance because he did not want to work. Maybe soon he will stand still until she is completely in the saddle. When he has done at least one nice walk and one nice trot to the right, she will then make him stand perfectly still for about 10 secs before she gets off. He likes to drift towards the gate when he thinks they are done, so she will not let him face the gate or get near the gate when they are done. He usually dances around for a few seconds, then settles.

The couple of times I have walked him in the ring for her, he will eyeball the outgate and when we pass it he will walk in front of me and walk sideways facing the gate. He never steps on me or pushes me, but he is definately telling me which way he thinks we need to go. I usually make him circle until we are facing the other way and then continue.

My dtr is getting some assistance from another boarder, a German lady who just graduated from MSU and works as an equine vet assistant. She is a dressage rider who moved here with her American husband. She bought and trained an ottb for herself when she first got here from Germany, so she is familiar with everything Shadow is doing to my dtr. This lady gave her what you guys might call a “gadget” gasp that goes over Shadow’s head, through the rings of his bit and hooks on his girth. Sorry, I don’t know what it is called, I’m not privy to that stuff since I’m just the mom. Since he was pulling against the reins, this makes him pull against himself and he relaxes sooner. He will even reach for the bit once he gets settled, unless of course you are going to the right. She suggested this gadget gasp one evening after watching Shadow spend more time tugging against my dtr than he was listening to her.

Despite all this, he really is fun to watch. He is all legs. Everyone here at the barn agrees he will grow some more, probably one big growth spurt, then he will be done. He is also so lovable. He is starting to respond to the calm and cool supps, although he still gets nervous if he is in the cross ties too long.

Well, thanks for letting me share. I have as much fun watching my dtr with this darling guy probably as much as she is having riding him.

Member - Baby Greenie Support Group, HorseShowMom Clique, and Midwest Clique

Yes that sounds the best and goes the best with Moose

Merry, great pics. I am still smiling because the Hamster looks just like Warren did at that age — boogers are going to jump out of that fence and grab him and eat him up!

Makes them harder to ride in the beginning (and middle and end) of their careers, but it also makes them more spectacular jumpers. In one year Warren turned from that picture of Hammie to the picture below. (the rail we are actually jumping is not even in the picture – it is whited out on the bottom). Just as soon as the jump got a little bigger and he tightened his front end a tad more.

No one will ever have to worry about our guys rubbing the jumps!!!

May you have many exciting years of showing (and winning) ahead of you.

PS How big is that sucker?

I, too, wish for consistency…

When he’s good, he’s very, very good…
When he’s bad, it’s like he has completely forgotten what his job is supposed to be.

I have to say, though, he’s good 80% of the time now. So we’re gettin’ there… Whew!

This thread has been stuck at page 46 for several days now. Everyone’s greenies must be behaving or its too wet/cold/snowy/windy to even attempt to get a good work in.

I finally did get a few pictures of Dekster. My very immature 3 year old Oldenburg. After the 1st of the year he is going to go to pasture to grow up! (that is also a clever way for me to avoid having to tromp through the mud during the rainy season.)

Ooops! Just realized that this is labeled “trot” but its the canter.

Didn’t you know Bumpkin that when you are not looking they get in and dance around?

I have seen my horses hooves it it on more than one occation.

Parker’s Diary:

Mom gave me a couple of days off in a row due to really bad thunderstorms, so she must be comming up tonight. I will run amuck in the pasture like an idiot and get all sweaty so the barn help will have to clean me. In the process I will rip off both my pull on bell boots and take a shoe too!

aaahhh one more day off, mom will be too tired after she re-shoe me to ride after a full day of work.

I thought Mr Cresty would be Mr Poopy after that consumption.
I only see him being even more greedy for treats in the cross ties.

I rode him today!!

We walked and trotted.
Me thinking, “ouch, ouch, ouch” with every trot step. haha

Actually I feel better tonight. Hope I do tomorrow and I will try to ride again on Thursday.

What is the difference between Low AA and AA?
All these new terms and classes I need to ask to learn

I’ve been away for a few weeks… it was nice to come back and catch up on all the baby greenie stories! Seems like everyone is doing well despite the fact that we are now contending with winter weather and awfully, uh, fresh horses! Bumpkin its good to hear your first lesson back was a success, and Beezer good luck with the Tigger situation… he obviously has a special place in your heart and undoubtedly you will work things out!

My own filly has been under saddle for a month now. I got on her for the first time this past weekend… she has really come along nicely and the friend of mine who is backing her has done a really lovely job. She halts from both the walk and trot with nothing more than a ‘whoa,’ and will pick up the trot with just a cluck of the tongue. She’s turning easily off the leg and seat and I’m completely suprised at how soft and willing she is.

While I’m a bit disappointed in myself for chickening out when it came to backing her, I am proud of the fact that much of her success under saddle stems from all the ground work I’ve done with her. I definetly made the right decision in letting my friend back her, and my own confidence is slowly returning. I have no doubt that while this filly may never make it to an A show, she will be an ideal mount for me… I’m glad I hung onto her!

Santa brought me a digital camera for christmas, so you can be sure I will be snapping some photos this week… then you can all see what my little green bean looks like!

If I could wave a wand over my BG jumper it would simply be to make him more equitable with regard to that one hour of time, each day that he’s ALL MINE!
The other 23 hours are his…His undivided attention is all I ask for a mere 60 minutes!(is that so much?) I must confess, I feel blessed for the 30 minutes of the hour that he does give me his all, as he does (I’m sure out of self-defense) at horse shows.(where it really counts)
He is a talented, handsome ,(I know looks don’t count, but they don’t hurt)and for the most part, a big-hearted youngster, who learns quickly. Again… I have been blessed, obviously I worship the ground he trots on! (doesn’t he know it!)
Maybe THAT’S why I don’t get my hours worth!
But I believe that you have to give repesct, in order to earn it.
Positive “anything”…is far better than negative “nothing”.

I’m bored at work so I just went riding on my lunch break. I suspected that Mickey might be a nutcase since I decided to give him two days off because he was perfect all of last week.

Anticipating a giraffe-necked speed-demon, I elected to not wear my spurs. But, alas, Mickey was a slug today!

The weather here is cold (50 degrees - brr chilly), but very sunny, so once we started working, the temperature felt perfect.

He was so light, he carried himself so nicely and didn’t drag me around. I cantered around a lot in two point and had to keep kicking him to get the engine running. After a few laps, I sat down and had a lovely light canter. He rounded his back and came on the bit~!!! First time ever!!! And in his bad direction, to boot! I was so shocked that I came down to a walk and tried to absorb what just happened. I wanted to see if it was a total fluke, so I picked up the canter again and he did it again!!! Wow!

Petted him and decided that was enough for the day - I couldn’t beat it!

Wheeeeee

~ batgirl - formerly known as splendid ~

Too many to list, back when I was young and foolish. My moto was “there just mis understood”. Ya, right.

Then as I began to age and realised that I have goals that I will not be able to achieve holding on to that attitude. So my search began a three and a half years ago, and came upon my current horse. After a year and a half of my green bean, I am having fun.

As for the ladies that were talking about not being able to bounce, been there and I would have to say for me the down hill slide started for me at about 28. Now into my thirties, I don’t take AS many stupid risks as I used to. I do have a lapse of judgement every once and a while, and my horse lets me know I have wavered from the path.

Yay for the Baby Greens, they do keep us humble.

Breezy get to go to his first show this weekend hopefuly we will just do flat but that i ok i and so nerves