Barisone Aftermath: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity, And Then

[trubandloki]

Maybe you are just hanging out with the wrong people?

And really…in the grand scheme of life I am confused why it matters. But then, I guess if your whole point is to make things in this thread go sideways, it makes perfect sense.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@PDDT

Please see this link for an explanation of the grammatical use of shall and will: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/future-will-and-shall

This is not to suggest that FritzE’s explanation is incorrect. There are many words that we commonly use that, when used in contracts and other legal documents, have a different meaning. Will and shall are very good examples of that.

I find it very sad when people infer that someone with a comprehensive vocabulary or good grasp of grammar are being affected.

Thank you!

Apparently, one can use either “will” or “shall” in conjunction with “I” or “we”, with “shall” being more formal.

On the other hand, one uses just “will” in conjunction with “they/he/she”.

Is that all? I thought there was something much more complicated than that. That also explains McArthur’s “I shall return”; he was simply being formal.

So KM is just using the formal version when she writes “Shall I,…”.

I think in American usage, “shall” is not just formal, but, well, archaic. I do not hear Americans of my generation saying, “Shall I, …,”, and I suspect KM is a good generation older than I.

I’m Knights Mom not Knights MeeMaw

[OntheFnce]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@PDDT

Please see this link for an explanation of the grammatical use of shall and will: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/future-will-and-shall

This is not to suggest that FritzE’s explanation is incorrect. There are many words that we commonly use that, when used in contracts and other legal documents, have a different meaning. Will and shall are very good examples of that.

I find it very sad when people infer that someone with a comprehensive vocabulary or good grasp of grammar are being affected.

Thank you!

Apparently, one can use either “will” or “shall” in conjunction with “I” or “we”, with “shall” being more formal.

On the other hand, one uses just “will” in conjunction with “they/he/she”.

Is that all? I thought there was something much more complicated than that. That also explains McArthur’s “I shall return”; he was simply being formal.

So KM is just using the formal version when she writes “Shall I,…”.

I think in American usage, “shall” is not just formal, but, well, archaic. I do not hear Americans of my generation saying, “Shall I, …,”, and I suspect KM is a good generation older than I.

Wrong again.

https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/verbs-modals_shall-will.htm

[Squirt]

me too.

[trubandloki]

I do wonder if SS or USEF are reviving the complaints against LK. With all that was admitted to on the stand it seems like that would be a logical next step.
No one likes to be lied to and with admitting that she lies for pleasure, how are SS/USEF supposed to believe anything that LK says when there is evidence showing she has done the opposite over and over again.

[iberianfan]

In legal documents, shall means must. The trustee shall distribute income. In that case the trustee has no discretion. If it says the trustee may distribute income, there is discretion.

We use shall every day. And it has nothing to do with being British.

[Knights_Mom]

When shall begins a sentence it takes more of a “should” type meaning.

[Joanne]

Has anyone heard if the Kanarek Klan is currently harrassing anyone on the periphery of the MB case?

[Danvers]

Disagree I am American and I and plenty of other Americans use Shall -

[Danvers]

I too, Boston born and breed - now a NYer. Even in NYC we use shall. Must be a northeastern thing….

[iridedressage]

I use “shall” all the time just as I use “may” instead of “can”.

[trubandloki]

No! You people can not use shall! CH says it is not used in the US so you must not use it.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

No! You people can not use shall! CH says it is not used in the US so you must not use it.

I’m all rebel-y n chi+

[jvanrens]

@eggbutt

Sadly, he is already sold

That is a good news, bad news post. Regardless, he looks lovely.

[iridedressage]

@Knights_Mom

@trubandloki

No! You people can not use shall! CH says it is not used in the US so you must not use it.

I’m all rebel-y n chi+

I wonder if CH is one who uses “I” when the grammatically correct word would be “me”.

[trubandloki]

@trubandloki

No! You people can not use shall! CH says it is not used in the US so you shall not use it.

I fixed it. See bolding.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

@trubandloki

No! You people can not use shall! CH says it is not used in the US so you shall not use it.

I fixed it. See bolding.

Shall I not use shall? If I shall, shall it mean that I’m all Britishy?

[Danvers]

As my mother would say: " I am sure you CAN, the question is MAY you"

[Danvers]

ah, no, using correct English… I am dyslexic so writing is hard for me , but I do remember a few of the rules that my mother taught me … my mother would make the grammar rules into a saying … and it helped me. The beehive for prepositions is a good one, anything that goes to or from the bee hive, is a preposition… I still don’t know what a preposition is but when I think of the bee hive I find the right one… I miss my Mum…

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

I shall try but I shan’t fret over errors whilst posting.