Barisone assessment

[ohnoO]

For the record, RC testified that she paid board on the horse she owned with MHG.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

Oh, yes, where was she at the trial? LK and IM made several references to her testifying, yet when the plea deal fell through and it was confirmed to be going to trial, that poster spazzed and deleted everything and said they specifically did not want anything to do with it.

That’s her point. Anyone who offers first hand information of MBs behavior and mental state years before LK was in the scene sees the Uber nasty assault on them in SM and is intimidated into silence.

Actually, I suspect that the story we were given wasn’t quite as advertised. That is the only reason why the prosecution would fail to call a witness claiming they were afraid for their life and could testify to several other points he had to rely on cherry-picked texts to make. They are out to win a case, they don’t care how a witness feels about testifying when they are attempting to put away an “attempted murderer”.

The prosecution did make its case on all aspects of its attempted murder charge wrt to LK aside from state of mind. So the prosecution did not “need” the witness for its case.

Given that, the exact same verdict would have been reached — NGRI — with or without her.

[hut-ho78]

@Warmblood1

@Seeker1

Here is the actual clip of MHG describing the cash flow problems and the dollars associated:

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx3huaQmcVVBIpXIrjV4VBvlOL9nv88NJk .

MHG said he had cash flow problems and listed the expenses.

Nope. The words “cash flow problems” were never uttered.

The word was “issues” not “problems.” It was further clarified to be “ liquidity.”

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@Warmblood1

@hut-ho78

You laugh now. Please enjoy that laughter. Remember it fondly.

Care to elaborate on that? Sounds like a threat.

Too funny. It’s not a threat. It’s life. If we are lucky enough ro live long enough to age, then age we will.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The prosecution did make its case on all aspects of its attempted murder charge wrt to LK aside from state of mind. So the prosecution did not “need” the witness for its case.

Really….these claims might have tipped the balance.

FYI: I was apparently mistaken. Not everything was deleted. Oh, and apparently there was a written contract involved…

[Seeker1]

Hut ho…they know…they are deriving perverse pleasure from these nasty antics. I haven’t seen one sensible or truly coherent response for awhile. My job here is done for today anyway.

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

Hut ho…they know…they are deriving perverse pleasure from these nasty antics. I haven’t seen one sensible or truly coherent response for awhile. My job here is done for today anyway.

Puhleez

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Seeker1

Hut ho…they know…they are deriving perverse pleasure from these nasty antics. I haven’t seen one sensible or truly coherent response for awhile. My job here is done for today anyway.

Iron E

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

The prosecution did make its case on all aspects of its attempted murder charge wrt to LK aside from state of mind. So the prosecution did not “need” the witness for its case.

Really….these claims might have tipped the balance.

FYI: I was apparently mistaken. Not everything was deleted. Oh, and apparently there was a written contract involved…

You mean that with her testimony you think he would have been found “guilty” instead of NGRI?

[Sdel]

Possibly….too bad she was allowed to decline to testify. Although, it’s entirely possible that if she had testified she’d have testified to a completely different version of events…

I guess we’ll never know.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

@hut-ho78

Too funny. It’s not a threat. It’s life. If we are lucky enough ro live long enough to age, then age we will.

If 55 years is when aging became a battle to the pain for you, then you may want to see Miracle Max (or his counterpart wherever you are from).

[OntheFnce]

@Sdel

@Seeker1

I didnt say she received a subpoena.

So, you are saying the prosecution just left a credible 3rd party witness to the horse abuse and bullying behavior on the table? A witness that would have testified to being in fear for their life and had concerns that MB would kill someone some day. And your happy with his performance?

Maybe he should have subpoenaed her.

And the irony here is that the prosecutions most credible witnesses actually helped MB. Go figure.

[OntheFnce]

@DreadPirateRoberts

@hut-ho78

Too funny. It’s not a threat. It’s life. If we are lucky enough ro live long enough to age, then age we will.

If 55 years is when aging became a battle to the pain for you, then you may want to see Miracle Max (or his counterpart wherever you are from).

Why did I read Miracle Max as Miralax?

[MHM]

@eggbutt

LK doesn’t have the credentials to be sponsored by a wealthy dressage enthusiast, so who knows?

Well, if anyone besides a relative sponsored her, that would make her not an amateur, correct?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The prosecution did make its case on all aspects of its attempted murder charge wrt to LK aside from state of mind. So the prosecution did not “need” the witness for its case.

Given that, the exact same verdict would have been reached — NGRI — with or without her.

I disagree. Evidence that he had been abusive and threatening to a client years before this incident? Uh, that might have gone a ways toward establishing a pattern of behavior. If this was a pattern of behavior, then the behavior in August of 2019 would NOT necessarily have been explained by the acute stresses LK applied to MB, stresses that brought about a rapidly worsening delusional disorder, which the jury clearly ruled was a key factor in the shooting.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

@OntheFnce

Why did I read Miracle Max as Miralax?

That might also be of some use to that poster. Alas, it won’t help them work through their gerascophobia.

[hut-ho78]

@Warmblood1

@ekat

In fairness, both Mr Schellhorn used them, as did Mr. Bilinkis. but MHG never uttered them. Mr S asked if they discussed “cash flow problems.” MHG said yes. Mr B said, (after he and MHG delineated all his assets) so, “irrespective of cash flow problems”, were the bills paid? MHG agreed.

Just shows two sides to one coin and how one phrase can be interpreted.

I meant in MHG’s testimony which is what seeker claims. I appreciate your accuracy regardless!

Yes MHG did testify to “cash flow issues” and “liquidity.”

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@MHM

@eggbutt

LK doesn’t have the credentials to be sponsored by a wealthy dressage enthusiast, so who knows?

Well, if anyone besides a relative sponsored her, that would make her not an amateur

You mean in terms of her ‘riding career,’ right?

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@BrendaJane

the recommended age to get a colonoscopy is 45.
So a decade earlier than ‘mid 50s’
I also have no clue where this fits into this subject. The ‘joke’ falls flat there, Sweety.

Aging issues in the 50s. Oh and I left our possible prostate problems and possible leakage.

[hut-ho78]

I don’t think a poster who had experience 4 years prior to the incident would be allowed to testify in a criminal trial unless it was the sentencing phase. They allowed positive character witnesses which surprises me as that too was prior to sentencing but I can’t see a judge allowing negative info until later. Each murder case of the guy that killed my friend could not include other murder information during the trial phase.