If Dr. Simring testifies at the civil trial he would probably freak that the number of SM was double what it was in the Criminal trial.
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I would think that any contact she had with him, including attempting to send information to medical providers (who will toss it in the bin), would be in violation of the restraining order that she took out.
If you take out a restraining order against someone, then proceed to try to use the cover of that order to contact, engage, or harass that person, you can land yourself right back into court without said restraining order.
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I doubt the transcripts will get sent, I even doubt if the homemade transcripts exist, as the time line around that is bizarre. There presumably really are 47 audio items as named in the court documents requesting them, but we do not know what the content is or what’s audible. We can assume they were considered illegal for criminal trial, and my guess is there is not much of interest on them.
Often in this particular case the victim conflates different processes. Like she can send material to AK and this will be a victim impact statement that affects decisions going forward. AK is a psychiatric hospital and I am sure they get craycray communications all the time. They are obviously going to abide by a court decision and not reassess the legal outcome based on unverified and illegally obtained claims from a victim.
The main point of the recording devices, talking about the devices, hinting even before the shooting that they existed, etc is for harassment and threats and to give an impression of omnipotence and secret knowledge. Whether that in itself rises to the level of harassment required by SS is an open question. However I think it’s just more SM posturing and BS, not a real action she will take, or she would have already done it.
If I were in MB’s position I would accept LK dropping the case and walking away. I would not be interested in pursuing a suit against her or the police. My guess is the suit against the police was strategic at the time, as discussed ages ago, and not something MB needed to go on and win.
I would not however accept a settlement that involved me paying any amount of damages, because I do think LK has no case here.
Of course most out of court settlements come with a nondisclosure agreement so both parties can save face. In this case, let’s take a best possible outcome where LK’s team agrees to drop the suit and pay MB’s legal expenses to date. MB and his team being coherent professional people would likely abide by that NDA and just smile and say it was a good outcome. But people who are internet trolls with low impulse control would be unable to keep from hinting forever that they actually got a huge settlement and “won.” And no one would be able to shut them up.
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Agreed. I find it bizarre as well that LK made the statement that she was going to send them. But a lot of her statements puzzle me.
You make many great points in this post. I’m highlighting this one because I ageee that would be a good outcome. And ultimately, when said internet troll crosses a line and breaks the NDA because they just can’t help themselves, the fallout will make for good reading.
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Omg. Can you imagine the expression on his face?!?
“There are now how many pages?!?!?!?”
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So, in other words, all the talk about the recordings, transcripts of the recordings and sending them all over the place is just as honest as all the other things that LK posts on social media?
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Well, it drew a little attention. So there’s that. 
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You mean LK, who testified under oath in court that she lies a lot on social media?
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If you’re going to quote me, please quote at least an entire sentence, not just a fragment.
I clearly stated later in the post that he was not guilty of attempted murder. What I was saying in the sentence you extracted a snippet from was that whatever your preferred semantics (I guess you would prefer “went to her residence with a gun a pulled the trigger”), he had no more right to take that action even if he had given her thirty days notice and she overstayed it than in the case that he had not given notice. Do you disagree with the actual point of the sentence?
I don’t think the jury will find LKs declining to leave before he clearly stated he wanted her to vacate is a form of harassment. The social media posts and the calling the building department, yes, that was harassment. On the other hand, his calling the police five times, prior to asking her to vacate, was also harassment. As was filing a 700 page complaint with USEF to get her banned for life and “ruin her universe”. But not simply choosing to stay for a few weeks while planning the move just because you perceived you were “unwelcome”.
He had a lawyer and knew the legal method of getting her to leave. He didn’t feel like waiting the legally required 30 days and chose instead to harass and scare her out. His desperation may well have been due to MHG threatening to leave him.
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Calling the police five times wasn’t clear enough to the barefoot ninja, master 3D chess player, that she had worn out her welcome.
Got it. Suuper genius.
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And how exactly do you know what MHG threatened to do?
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I am not trying to change your mind.
My mission is not, and has never been, to get the threads shut down. I’m not the one who gets them shut down — if you look at the archived threads, most of them are shut down due to bickering and personal insults lobbed by other posters, not me.
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Yes I do, because it flies in the face of the jury’s verdict and any understanding of mens rea which has been discussed here ad nauseum and is why I specifically took exception to that “snippet.” Misstatement of legal terms is not just semantics, as I have stated here before. There is meaning behind legal terms that shouldn’t be ignored.
As to the rest of your post, I’m not trying to argue your movie in your head, especially that last paragraph. I was simply pointing out there is a significant difference between the criminal trial and the civil trial. LK’s role and actions, while significant in the criminal trial, will be magnified a thousand times in the civil trial as she is both plaintiff and defendant. One jury already had issues with her credibility in a limited capacity as evidenced by the Not Guilty regarding her story that MB shot at RG. We’ll see how that plays in front of another jury.
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Given that the mods have repeatedly stated that they only act when someone brings it to their attention by flagging, suggests a certain thin-skinnedness plays a role in getting the threads locked. Since your last post in the tech help was concern over if people can see who flags whom and results of flagging….I think it is pretty obvious why you would be concerned enough to ask.
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I thought it was a murder plot? 
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I think she understood “she had worn out her welcome”. Rather than using the legal process of giving her the thirty days notice that she was entitled to, Barisone chose to harass, intimidate and scare her because he couldn’t be bothered to wait the thirty days.
No one has answered my question as to why Barisone didn’t ask her to leave on June 1 or July 1 to vacate 30 days hence.
The 30 days notice she was entitled to as a legal tenant means he does not have the right to decide on July 25 that she has to be gone by August 7. He can request it. He can have his lawyer negotiate with her father. He can negotiate and offer to “buy her out”, but he went for harassment and intimidation, even before the gun violence. In his defense, my interpretation is that the insanity and delusions were in play well before August 7. He was not acting rationally.
He wanted to bully her out. She didn’t want to give in to a bully. If she had actually thought she was at risk of being shot and nearly killed, I think she would have made a different choice and allowed herself to be bullied off the premises.
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If she knew this…
…she didn’t need this…
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