Barisone assessment

[ekat]

So, LK is hardly clear on this point. At first she says “we discovered” the faulty dryer during our night checks. Then she says she texted Cassandra (?) and says “we overheard you telling Ruth the dryer is not shutting off.”

So that begs the questions:

1. Are you doing the nightly check in the barn? If so, well, that’s where the dryer is.

2. if you’re close enough to “overhear”, why text? Why not shout out, “hey - anyone unplug the dryer? Should I?”

3. did you discover a faulty dryer or overhear something that you may have possibly misconstrued?

4. did you talk to a single, living breathing soul on the farm the next morning, when the barn hadn’t burned down, before you sent RG off to the fire Marshall with your letter?

Those are just off the top of my head.

Starting at about 30 minutes in. (Also worth a scroll through the comments).

NJ v. Michael Barisone Trial Day 4 - Cont'd Cross Exam of Lauren Kanarek -...

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

Because I assumed it could be answered by users and that it wasn’t necessary to bother the mods.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m pretty sure that the poster of the flagged post does not receive notification of who flagged the post. You must know the answer to the question as a long time poster. I’m not sure why you’re being coy.

Perhaps I should make a bunch of posts flirting with “the line” and see what notifications I get. LOL.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, @eggbutt. You stated that the substitute trainer for Ulf fired LK as a client immediately after the trial, and that she has not been riding since.

Actually, you posted the detail that the substitute trainer fired her in a phone call.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Thank you, Eggbutt.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I don’t know for a fact whether it correct or incorrect, since I’m not the one stalking LK.

You asked Hut-Ho, “is that really what I said”, and the answer is yes, that’s what you said.

Re bolded. The claim that you received the information “from someone removed from the inner circle” is an odd detail.

@CurrentlyHorseless

With this post you’re confirming that by finding him NGRI, the jury did conclude that, beyond a reasonable doubt, Michael Barisone shot LK.

@CurrentlyHorseless

If he had served the 30 day notice on or before July 1, I think she would honored the 30 day notice and left prior to August 1.

If he only realized he was desperate to get her out of there by, say July 22, he had two legal, honest options:

1. tell her, unilaterally, the training relationship and tenancy are ending as of Aug 22, 2019, or
2. acknowledge that she had the right to remain for up to 30 days, and request and negotiate for her to leave earlier.

He went through door #3,
3) harass, intimidate and scare her into leaving prior to 30 days, and without a buyout of some form. The police calls and the massive complaint to USEF were part of the harassment campaign.

1 & 2 are alternatives to the intimidation campaign he chose. LK had been training with MB for some time, and while MB and MHG suddenly wanted her gone, if they had taken door 1 or door 2 instead of door three, it’s just not that onerous to honor the 30 day legally required notice.

I don’t think her FB posts, SS report, or harassment via the BI happened in a vacuum. I think she was responding to Barisone’s choice of door #3.

The closest I have come to this situation personally is that at one point I was sharing an apartment with a roommate I no longer got along with, and spent some money paying her last month’s rent to get her out of the apartment 3 weeks early. I “bought her out”. I was a student at the time and by no means flush, but it was money well spent.

I think that if Barisone had not opted for the intimidation campaign, it would have been uncomfortable but bearable to wait out the thirty days from whenever things turned sour (which was prior to Aug 5.) But I would have gone for door #2, and tried to “buy her out”. If her terms were something I couldn’t stomach, I would have made the best of the situation and waited out the thirty days without deliberately escalating things with an intimidation campaign.

@CurrentlyHorseless

By saying you would have hung the jury by holding out for a straight NG because you don’t think the prosecution made its case that he shot her, that implies to me that the unhung jury that unanimously agreed on NGRI was in unanimous agreement that the prosecution did make its case.

Re bolded: according to the jury instructions, they’re not even supposed to consider the issue of insanity until after they’ve decided that the prosecution made its case that he shot her.

@Seeker1

No

@Seeker1

I believe eggbutt to be a very misguided and angry person.

@Seeker1

Oh i continue to pray for her (eggbutt) to find happiness and the best version of herself. She is a particularly stubborn case as she has most likely been tramatized, abused, and/or bullied many times. This creates much more than average anger…need for attention, lack of empathy…lack of sympathy. She indeed needs the prayers of many. I truly pity her allowing my family and dressage to rent so much space in her head particularly since she is not even a dressage rider as per her own admission.

@CurrentlyHorseless

• No, I didn’t realize someone could get banned without being flagged. How would a poster be banned without someone bringing their behavior to the attention of the mods by flagging the offensive posts?
• Is it considered bad behavior by the mods to “tag” or mention a banned poster? I mentioned both Equkelly and RND, and happened to do so by using their full screen name with the @. Are you saying its OK to mention a banned poster but just not OK to include the @??? You and others are constantly bringing up YD; is it acceptable to mention a banned poster as long as one omits the @? What difference does it make whether one happens to include the @?

@Seeker1

Seems like you “think” you know what is true which is truly laughable as you claim to know so much without any relationship to the perp or victim. I, on the other hand, I am the victim’s mom and lived much of this trauma first hand. I find it truly amusing when you and others make definitive assertions about what happened and you have absolutely no clue…well it would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

I believe you posted that you were out of the country, and you most certainly were not at the farm that day.

@Seeker1

I have a vested interest here unlike some of you who just like to engage in cruel and sadistic behavior for fun…as in eggbutts so called sadism “playground”.

@Seeker1

She had no such plans. I think you and many others here should start careers as fiction writers. However…the books probably wouldnt be that good or interesting.

@Seeker1

But you do?

@Seeker1

He testified that there plans to barter for stable accommodations.

He testified to more than one thing.

@Seeker1

Discuss away but stop the maliciously manufactured works of fiction please?

@Seeker1

Ok msg me please.

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re right, if he had chosen door #1, it’s possible that she would refused to vacate by August 22. That’s all part of door #1. But he never gave her the opportunity to vacate within 30 days.

I would have requested she leave earlier, and negotiate a buyout of some form, and if I couldn’t stomach the expense of the buyout, wait out the thirty days without escalating the conflict with the intimidation campaign, even if the likelihood of her honoring the 30 days was less than 100%.

You’ve pointed out that in NJ, as in many states, the law favors tenants in a lot of ways. She was a legal tenant, and the law is the law.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Tarshis testified that there were no written contracts.

Verbal contracts are still contracts that can be enforced.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, JK was in the process of negotiating an exit on LKs behalf, presumably with LKs consent to the process of the negotiation. As principal, she did not agree to the terms proposed by Tarshis and JK on Aug 5 or 6, and intended to continue negotiating via ED. All perfectly legal.

So LK and JK thought the issue was being resolved via door #2. The tragedy is that Barisone in his delusions was unable to let the negotiations continue for another few days and shot her.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have answered for myself, Warmblood1.

I have never said that MB “woke up one day, gave a 1-2 day notice and shot her”.

@CurrentlyHorseless

• Re bolded. Posters can be banned because “the mods have been messaged about them”? You’re saying that rather than using the flagging button, posters use a PM to the mods instead? That just sounds like a more general version of the idea of “flagging”. I think you’ve confirmed that banning occurs when someone brings the bad behavior to the attention of the mods, whether with the flag button or by PM. No, I was not “bragging about” flagging a while back, and I have never used PM to complain to the mods about the behavior of another poster.
• I wished to mention the banned posters Equkelly and RND. I happened to throw in the @, when I did so. I had no idea throwing in the @ mattered for anything. I still don’t understand why it matters for a banned poster who will not see it anyway. I trust the moderators decisions. Why would my mentioning the banned posters, with or without the @, suggest that I thought they were “wronged”?
• I also did not realize that using the tagging feature of the forum when addressing active posters was considered offensive. I don’t object to being tagged. You’re right that it’s redundant if you’re quoting @screennameA, but it’s not redundant if you’re referring to @screennameB while quoting @screennameA.
• I receive many, many notifications that I’ve been quoted by trubandloki, and have been able to simply ignore that form of harassment. For months. Do you have an opinion on the forum etiquette regarding that tiresome tactic?

@CurrentlyHorseless

I fully acknowledge that through his lawyer, MB had been negotiating with JK for some period of time prior to Aug 5. I did not specifically state it because I thought everyone knew it.

I believe she was on board with the idea of a negotiated departure, but did not agree to the proposed deal presented on Aug 5/6 and intended to continue negotiations via ED.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think Ekat referred to it as “cash for keys” and said it was a not uncommon (legal) way for a landlord to avoid all the time and expense of eviction.

@hut-ho78

One would think. I was surprised to get the message from the moderator about junior high behavior. I haven’t checked to see if the “juvenile” comment remains.

@hut-ho78

Here is one. Still flagged and still here. So if it gets one flag then no action but multiple flags then it’s deleted with a message from the mod. Good to know. Y’all are busted!

@hut-ho78

Here is another. Same. Glad I didn’t use such strong language again as juvenile or repeat the junior high maturity comment. Y’all would have tag teamed me in a New York minute!

@hut-ho78

Finally, she admits she posted it. Hooray!

@hut-ho78

Actually some barns welcome cameras for horse health, safety, and security. They’ve been used in foaling barns for years. I was in one that looked into setting up cameras for all of the owners but decided it was too expensive at the time.

@hut-ho78

Yes and the jury believed the defense mental health experts.

@hut-ho78

She is banned and y’all still can’t stop posting her stuff on here. Good grief.

@hut-ho78

She stated at one point that her implant saved her life then there have been multiple discussions as to whether that was possible and deflection if one of the bullets off the implant to break the window instead of a third shot breaking the window.

Dressage takes core strength. Her core was perforated and sliced. Her lung collapsed. They went in under her arm to reach the aorta to clamp it when she was bleeding out. They slit her open from stem to stern so her organs could have room to swell and not stop her breathing.

Anyone who has had a C section, mastectomy, radiation, or other core penetrating surgeries or injuries can attest to discomfort afterwards, sometimes something that can be worked through and sometimes debilitating.

@hut-ho78

The prosecution had to determine he did the act but since he was deemed insane and unable to have a criminal intent he is Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity (NGRI). Had the prosecutor not proven he performed the act beyond a reasonable doubt, he would be Not Guilty (NG) as they found for the charges concerning RG.

@hut-ho78

That is one of many reasons I believe the NGRI was the right verdict. He had the upper hand. Her escalating behavior was all helping him to have her evicted under New Jersey’s emergency eviction clause for disorderly. None of this needed to happen, a great tragedy.

@hut-ho78

The document in the middle of the angst was an annual release from liability standard form used by many barns. That and the “get rid of her” comments I believe to be all innocent but once she was shot twice, it is understandable that they are perceived in a more sinister light.

@hut-ho78

Per testimony from MHG, MB also provided many alarming quotes. The sad irony is the threat was MB, not LK. Even RC missed that.

@hut-ho78

You are mistaken. That small number of posters arrived after the thread took a mean turn. Maybe if the comments stayed about the trials and not about attacking people, it could stay strictly about the trial.

@hut-ho78

I just remember her SM posts, not her testifying under oath about it.

@hut-ho78

Mechanic’s liens and reporting other code violations or illegal actions they have noticed are the more common tactics. It can be quite a headline grabber for a public project in an election year.

@Ghazzu

I believe it is also prudent to make a number of incisions to allow the release of post-mortem gas accumulation, which would make the corpse more buoyant.

Oh yes. Very good advice. You can probably use less weight that way too, making the whole body hiding process easier.

Wow. This is impressive. Y’all complain about me copying threads that get long. This one wins.

[erinmeri]

@ekat

So, LK is hardly clear on this point. At first she says “we discovered” the faulty dryer during our night checks. Then she says she texted Cassandra (?) and says “we overheard you telling Ruth the dryer is not shutting off.”

So that begs the questions:

1. Are you doing the nightly check in the barn? If so, well, that’s where the dryer is.
2. if you’re close enough to “overhear”, why text? Why not shout out, “hey - anyone unplug the dryer? Should I?”
3. did you discover a faulty dryer or overhear something that you may have possibly misconstrued?
4. did you talk to a single, living breathing soul on the farm the next morning, when the barn hadn’t burned down, before you sent RG off to the fire Marshall with your letter?

Those are just off the top of my head.

Starting at about 30 minutes in. (Also worth a scroll through the comments).

Oh curse you, ekat. WHY, GOD, WHY? Within the first 2 minutes and 20 seconds she admits her posts could be perceived as threats and it devolves from there. I am so tempted to watch this guano show again, but it is a lot. I kind of want to to dispel some of the nonsense here. Should I set up a patreon and transcribe this nonsense? LOL

[ekat]

I’ll save you some time. Under the video, on the right side, there’s those three little dots. Click on those, and click on Show Transcript.

Admittedly, some of the stuff is kind of funny, in that the software is horrific with names, horse terms, dressage specific terms, but it’s a nice guide.

[erinmeri]

Ok. Now we are not friends. You’re letting AI take away my ability to monetize my skills via Patreon? A plague on your house! (KIDDING)

[ekat]

@erinmeri

Ok. Now we are not friends. You’re letting AI take away my ability to monetize my skills via Patreon? A plague on your house! (KIDDING)

Well clearly you would do a better job. It still might be worth a shot!

[MHM]

@erinmeri

Ok. Now we are not friends. You’re letting AI take away my ability to monetize my skills via Patreon? A plague on your house! (KIDDING)

I’ll bet Dr. Simring only wished that there was an AI option to go through all the social media posts so he did not have to do it.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@DownYonder

@Sdel

Seems to me, the plan was to force him to evict her so she could sue him for broken contracts. Why else would she be talking about subpoenas, perjury and moles in the barn before the shooting…

Were there written contracts?

It is funny you ask that….there is evidence that MB kept really good records of things like training agreements. LK has never admitted to written contracts…but has previously talked about (and subsequently deleted) who was involved in negotiating with MB for the renovations and has made quite a bit of commentary about enforcing contracts…

Tarshis testified that there were no written contracts.

Verbal contracts are still contracts that can be enforced.

Yes, thank you for pointing out what appears to be an anomaly. I wonder why the one slipped through the cracks….maybe it has something to do with accessing the office and forging signatures…

The document in the middle of the angst was an annual release from liability standard form used by many barns. That and the “get rid of her” comments I believe to be all innocent but once she was shot twice, it is understandable that they are perceived in a more sinister light.

Nice dodge.

Dodge? That has been discussed before. Don’t be rude.

No, the evidence of MB’s record keeping habits and the anomaly of the missing one with LK has not really been discussed. You conflated it with a document that wasn’t currently being discussed.

[erinmeri]

I made a mistake. Meant to tag you! @hut-ho78: Hi again! Since you’re posting and feel so strongly about our previous exchange, can you please post your findings?

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

Let me understand, from your perspective being a member of the Kanarek family is insulting? Wow.

It’s insulting that you infer that only the Kanareks because of their family relationship with LK could find the LK bashing to be mean.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

It was theories by the anti LK crowd that just 2 bullets were shot and one recovered off the implant. Also, LK said somewhere on SM the implant saved her life.

There were no bullets recovered.

You know who said there were just 2 shots fired? ED. Hardly part of the “anti LK” crowd.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, I did not state that I was “intently flagging posts that did not meet with my exacting specifications”. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

No, I did not say that Equkelly was banned for some “unfathomable reason”. I said I did not see the final post that caused her to be banned, but I trusted the judgment of the mods who, I trust, banned her for a general pattern and a few final posts that I didn’t see. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

I very rarely delete posts or edit other than to correct minor grammatical errors. IM didn’t either. I don’t think Hut-Ho does. So I continue to believe the echoing of every single post @Hut-Ho, @Seeker1, or I post is simply harassment. No matter.

Thanks for letting me know it doesn’t bother you. Even though Hut-Ho and I are the targets of the tactic, I would have thought that echoing 50 posts would be annoying to most readers, but perhaps not.

I am curious. How do you feel about the other banned poster you tagged who was vicious towards me and others?

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are so few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

[MHM]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

It was theories by the anti LK crowd that just 2 bullets were shot and one recovered off the implant. Also, LK said somewhere on SM the implant saved her life.

There were no bullets recovered.

You know who said there were just 2 shots fired? ED. Hardly part of the “anti LK” crowd.

It’s so funny how after all this time and all this documentation, there are still people who insist on getting the most basic facts wrong.

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are to few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

Pray tell what was the blow? I missed it. I only saw the relentless and INappropriate messages and posts. From what I saw, the loss of RND was not a loss. Why was that a “blow”?

Do you condone the behavior they engaged in? If not, then it’s not a “blow”.

EDITED: INappropriate.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Agree. I don’t understand any of this. She should have left. If not, he should have evicted her. It was all so unnecessary and sad.

@hut-ho78

So I thought they were doing that and getting no response?. Then this forum said she should have unplugged it but she was banned from the barn at that hour.

@hut-ho78

Since I was flagged, the posts deleted, and received a message from the mods for calling out behavior as junior high mentality and I have apologized for that, I assumed the term “juvenile” would be
on the naughty list as well. Apparently only if enough people flag it. So yes, it does appear y’all group flag posts.

@hut-ho78

I agree. I can think of several posters who become irate if another theory other than their chosen theory is proposed. They get quite mean and insulting and start inferring people are members of the Kanarek family.

@hut-ho78

You complain when I copy the string and now you complain when I don’t.

@hut-ho78

The thoracic surgeon testified to it and her healed scars were shown to the jury.

@hut-ho78

Since y’all filled in everyone with the family history and Girl Scouts and dance lessons, then a leotard was the logical choice. No one said they had martial arts training.

@hut-ho78

Dodge? That has been discussed before. Don’t be rude.

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, I did not state that I was “intently flagging posts that did not meet with my exacting specifications”. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

No, I did not say that Equkelly was banned for some “unfathomable reason”. I said I did not see the final post that caused her to be banned, but I trusted the judgment of the mods who, I trust, banned her for a general pattern and a few final posts that I didn’t see. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

I very rarely delete posts or edit other than to correct minor grammatical errors. IM didn’t either. I don’t think Hut-Ho does. So I continue to believe the echoing of every single post @hut-ho78 , @Seeker1, or I post is simply harassment. No matter.

Thanks for letting me know it doesn’t bother you. Even though Hut-Ho and I are the targets of the tactic, I would have thought that echoing 50 posts would be annoying to most readers, but perhaps not.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I very rarely delete posts or edit other than to correct minor grammatical errors. IM didn’t either.

Darn, you said that again? When in another thread I actually proved you wrong on this point?
You are also the person who says that the level of removing and editing that LK has done is ok because she is just fixing errors.
Seeker for sure deletes. More than once I have quoted something before she deleted it.
You and Hut do edit.

@hut-ho78

It was theories by the anti LK crowd that just 2 bullets were shot and one recovered off the implant. Also, LK said somewhere on SM the implant saved her life.

The implant had to be removed at the hospital with all the other surgery to save her life.

@hut-ho78

That is interesting. I would not have believed it possible.

@hut-ho78

Wow. This is impressive. Y’all complain about me copying threads that get long. This one wins.

@hut-ho78

It’s insulting that you infer that only the Kanareks because of their family relationship with LK could find the LK bashing to be mean.

@CurrentlyHorseless

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are to few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

[ekat]

@MHM

It’s so funny how after all this time and all this documentation, there are still people who insist on getting the most basic facts wrong.

It’s amazing really. Especially since they can go back and watch the trial any old time they want.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

@CurrentlyHorseless

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are to few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

Pray tell what was the blow? I missed it. I only saw the relentless and appropriate messages and posts. From what I saw, the loss of RND was not a loss. Why was that a “blow”?

Do you condone the behavior they engaged in? If not, then it’s not a “blow”.

No, I don’t condone her behavior in terms of the personalized nature of the PMs or posts. I said I understood the mod’s decision to ban her.

The “blow” is that it used to be RND, @hut-ho78, and me on this side of the room, and now it’s just hut-ho and me.

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The “blow” is that it used to be RND, @hut-ho78, and me on this side of the room, and now it’s just hut-ho and me.

So what room is Seeker in?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@erinmeri

@CurrentlyHorseless

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are to few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

Pray tell what was the blow? I missed it. I only saw the relentless and appropriate messages and posts. From what I saw, the loss of RND was not a loss. Why was that a “blow”?

Do you condone the behavior they engaged in? If not, then it’s not a “blow”.

No, I don’t condone her behavior in terms of the personalized nature of the PMs or posts. I said I understood the mod’s decision to ban her.

The “blow” is that it used to be RND, @hut-ho78, and me on this side of the room, and now it’s just hut-ho and me.

Well if LK didn’t lie on social media she wouldn’t be gone either. And maybe even (dare I say it?) none of this would even exist.

You still have a rock with IM under it and a few others. Wasn’t there a Sierra something?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

Agree. I don’t understand any of this. She should have left. If not, he should have evicted her. It was all so unnecessary and sad.

@hut-ho78

So I thought they were doing that and getting no response?. Then this forum said she should have unplugged it but she was banned from the barn at that hour.

@hut-ho78

Since I was flagged, the posts deleted, and received a message from the mods for calling out behavior as junior high mentality and I have apologized for that, I assumed the term “juvenile” would be
on the naughty list as well. Apparently only if enough people flag it. So yes, it does appear y’all group flag posts.

@hut-ho78

I agree. I can think of several posters who become irate if another theory other than their chosen theory is proposed. They get quite mean and insulting and start inferring people are members of the Kanarek family.

@hut-ho78

You complain when I copy the string and now you complain when I don’t.

@hut-ho78

The thoracic surgeon testified to it and her healed scars were shown to the jury.

@hut-ho78

Since y’all filled in everyone with the family history and Girl Scouts and dance lessons, then a leotard was the logical choice. No one said they had martial arts training.

@hut-ho78

Dodge? That has been discussed before. Don’t be rude.

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, I did not state that I was “intently flagging posts that did not meet with my exacting specifications”. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

No, I did not say that Equkelly was banned for some “unfathomable reason”. I said I did not see the final post that caused her to be banned, but I trusted the judgment of the mods who, I trust, banned her for a general pattern and a few final posts that I didn’t see. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

I very rarely delete posts or edit other than to correct minor grammatical errors. IM didn’t either. I don’t think Hut-Ho does. So I continue to believe the echoing of every single post @hut-ho78 , @Seeker1, or I post is simply harassment. No matter.

Thanks for letting me know it doesn’t bother you. Even though Hut-Ho and I are the targets of the tactic, I would have thought that echoing 50 posts would be annoying to most readers, but perhaps not.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I very rarely delete posts or edit other than to correct minor grammatical errors. IM didn’t either.

Darn, you said that again? When in another thread I actually proved you wrong on this point?
You are also the person who says that the level of removing and editing that LK has done is ok because she is just fixing errors.
Seeker for sure deletes. More than once I have quoted something before she deleted it.
You and Hut do edit.

@hut-ho78

It was theories by the anti LK crowd that just 2 bullets were shot and one recovered off the implant. Also, LK said somewhere on SM the implant saved her life.

The implant had to be removed at the hospital with all the other surgery to save her life.

@hut-ho78

That is interesting. I would not have believed it possible.

@hut-ho78

Wow. This is impressive. Y’all complain about me copying threads that get long. This one wins.

@hut-ho78

It’s insulting that you infer that only the Kanareks because of their family relationship with LK could find the LK bashing to be mean.

@CurrentlyHorseless

RND? It was a blow to have her gone, as there are to few on this side of the room, but I saw the “straw that broke the camel’s back” post that finally got her banned. I also saw a pattern of her getting close to and over “the edge” since the fall, so the hammer coming down did not surprise me.

As sad as I was to see her gone, I totally understand the mods’ decision there.

Yes, IM deleted a sentence from one post. That’s all I’m aware of. That’s much less editing of substance than the average poster. Why shouldn’t IM (or I) be allowed to delete or edit a post when doing so is allowed by the mods and the forum rules?

I might delete a post if I’m in the process of catching up, post a comment, then find that someone already made the point so that my post was redundant. I’m not ashamed of the post, but remove it due to redundancy. Is that bad? Nefarious?

I sometimes edit to correct grammatical mistakes. Is that bad? Nefarious?