Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Jenerationx]

Wow… interesting house guest.

I can’t say what MB’s story is as he hasn’t published his version anywhere. I can say that LK’s story has inconsistencies and doesn’t add up. I don’t think questioning those inconsistencies is aiding and abetting anyone, especially someone who’s name I didn’t know prior to this incident, but please, have SS and USEF sanction me as a non-member! In fact, if you can get me subpoenaed to testify about my questions of motives and timelines of these events, that would be great. I’m working reduced hours and bored.
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[MorganSercu]

@FitzE

Wait, what!!??? That is one bread I’ve never even thought of attempting!! Ethiopian is must ultimate comfort food!! Is this something you have made at home? If so, please spill!

Getting Teff flour is not easy around here. Near work is an excellent Ethiopian restaurant/market. I go there for the food, grab a few spice blends and turn up my nose at dinner.

Maybe you will have better luck!.

@Sdel - Teff flour is gluten-free!

https://www.splendidtable.org/recipe…nt-teff-injera

[Sdel]

@MorganSercu

I am happy to taste-test. A family member is sensitive to gluten and dairy too and says that adding Greek yogurt to various recipes has been a boon. Gives things a lift they didn’t get before without buttermilk.

The naan bread recipe I want to try has yogurt. Good to know it’s headed in the right direction.

So far everything I have tried as turned out pretty good. I’m not not sure if that makes me an under-confident baker or if I just have a family with low expectations.

ETA: I live in a college town. So, while we are small town, we have a decent international student presence and several different ethnic markets. I’m sure I can get teff if I look hard enough.

[FitzE]

@Jenerationx

Wow… interesting house guest.

I can’t say what MB’s story is as he hasn’t published his version anywhere. I can say that LK’s story has inconsistencies and doesn’t add up. I don’t think questioning those inconsistencies is aiding and abetting anyone, especially someone who’s name I didn’t know prior to this incident, but please, have SS and USEF sanction me as a non-member! In fact, if you can get me subpoenaed to testify about my questions of motives and timelines of these events, that would be great. I’m working reduced hours and bored.
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Not only that, how is anyone aiding and abetting the commission of a crime that occurred months ago? Most of us have no knowledge of or connection to MB. Several have knowledge of and connection to LK and have first-hand experience with her particular MO.

Again, getting shot does not cleanse one of past crimes nor make one a better person. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, sometimes bad things happen to bad people.

Discussing an item covered in the news is not a crime.

[YankeeDuchess]

@cutter99

Geez guys, I sleep in one single morning and it goes nuts over here!

I am not honestly sure we need a reset because for the most part our favorite spinning twister was not engaged. We weren’t perfect, but we were darn good!

It is really about not taking the bait at this point. I have been sorely tempted to do so a couple times recently. I have actually typed out replies, and gone back and deleted them. Yes, on my own posts, not someone else’s. I am learning that sitting back for a moment, taking a deep breath and remembering I can only control me is a benefit on this thread!

Never on any other thread on this board have I seen anyone say you need to take screen shot of something you quote from another poster. I can say I have never attempted to alter anyone else’s quote as there is an ethical problem in my world with that. There has only been one person here who has attempted to do something like that if I recall correctly, and that person could not seem to understand the quote feature to begin with and was cutting and pasting quotes, which is suspect, especially considering the way they love to spin and twist anything and everything!

The addition of a new poster threatening repercussions from various organizations was REALLY interesting, especially since many of us are not members of those organizations. If anything, those posts were thrown out there as threats and an attempt to shut people up, which I find very interesting.

My vote is on to DAY SIX. We strive to rise above, not take the bait and celebrate with English muffins and sparking wine or grape juice!

   I have never said that anyone has altered the contents of a quote, other than to demonstrate that it could easily be done. 

    I have certainly never altered the contents of a quote, and  am pointing out that Trubandloki is a liar for saying that I have done so.

[ohnoO]

While we are posting theories, (OK, it was a while ago) I would like to go back to the beginning (I hear y’all groaning—you can cut that out and just walk-on-by :yes:).

I think the issue was originally between LK and MH. I don’t know if LK was jealous of MH’s equestrian life, personal life or all of it, but, IIRC, it was stated that MH is a good rider as, it was mentioned, is her tween daughter and I suspect that both of them are also in possession of attributes that compliment those talents, i.e., hard work, dedication, sacrifice of time, attention to detail, respect, etc, etc, etc! (I didn’t include money, although we know it’s easier to ride the nice ones!)

Was it jealousy that started the whole thing or did MH “do” something to her?

I don’t know if LK wanted more than professional attention from MB, but it has been my experience that any serious trainer will bend over backwards to work with you if you possess the aforementioned attributes. Oh, and keep your mouth shut during lessons.

When LK started her “crusade” against MH, it may not have included MB yet, so he was comfortable taking her to that last horse show. It consequently became his problem because of his relationship with MH who by this time must have been miserable. I’m sure sharing the house was no fun!

So like a lot of guys tend to do, he was just going to fix it!

I wouldn’t think that the plan included a gun, but that is how it unfolded.

(Just a theory :winkgrin:).

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹

[trubandloki]

@YankeeDuchess

That is a lie. I have never used the quote feature and gone into to quote to change it. I never did that and said that doing it clarified the quote. I never had a post pages later saying anything like “gee, I’m sorry.”

Provide the posts you are referring to, or admit that you are a liar.

As far as I know, the changing of words inside a quote has been gone by no one except to openly demonstrate how it could be done.

It certainly has not been done by me.

[MorganSercu]

I have copied this from another web site - not certain if linking is appropriate. The strikethroughs (attempts?) are mine because I don’t think they apply here very well. They may - I don’t know. At any rate, I think the ingredients in Ego Chow were in play.

What’s in a bag of Ego Chow? Flattery. Attention. [strike]Easy sex.[/strike] Admiration without accomplishment. Shallow attachment. [strike]Infatuation.[/strike] Fantasy. Centrality.

[cutter99]

@ohnoO

While we are posting theories, (OK, it was a while ago) I would like to go back to the beginning (I hear y’all groaning—you can cut that out and just walk-on-by :yes:).

I think the issue was originally between LK and MH. I don’t know if LK was jealous of MH’s equestrian life, personal life or all of it, but, IIRC, it was stated that MH is a good rider as, it was mentioned, is her tween daughter and I suspect that both of them are also in possession of attributes that compliment those talents, i.e., hard work, dedication, sacrifice of time, attention to detail, respect, etc, etc, etc! (I didn’t include money, although we know it’s easier to ride the nice ones!)

Was it jealousy that started the whole thing or did MH “do” something to her?

I don’t know if LK wanted more than professional attention from MB, but it has been my experience that any serious trainer will bend over backwards to work with you if you possess the aforementioned attributes. Oh, and keep your mouth shut during lessons.

When LK started her “crusade” against MH, it may not have included MB yet, so he was comfortable taking her to that last horse show. It consequently became his problem because of his relationship with MH who by this time must have been miserable. I’m sure sharing the house was no fun!

So like a lot of guys tend to do, he was just going to fix it!

I wouldn’t think that the plan included a gun, but that is how it unfolded.

(Just a theory :winkgrin:).

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner!

Excellent post ohnoO!

[YankeeDuchess]

@trubandloki

Yes, someone has. The person who you quoted has done it and said their change clarified the quote, did not change it, and then pages later did one of those ‘oh gee I am sorry’ type posts.
As far as I know, no one else has done that. It is just not how one quotes.

This is a lie.

I have never used the quote feature then gone into the quote to edit it, nor have I done so and claimed that I was just clarifying it, nor have I posted later anything like “Oh gee I am sorry”.

Provide evidence of ANY of those posts, or admit you are a liar.

As far as I know no one has done it other than to openly show that it can be done. I certainly never did it.

But thanks for demonstrating so clearly that you’re willing to stoop to lying to try to make someone you don’t like look bad. It makes you look bad.

@Moderator1

[YankeeDuchess]

@trubandloki

Yes, someone has. The person who you quoted has done it and said their change clarified the quote, did not change it, and then pages later did one of those ‘oh gee I am sorry’ type posts.
As far as I know, no one else has done that. It is just not how one quotes.

This is a lie.

I have never used the quote feature then gone into the quote to edit it, nor have I done so and claimed that I was just clarifying it, nor have I posted later anything like “Oh gee I sm sorry”.

   Provide evidence of ANY of those posts, or admit you are a liar. 

   As far as I know no one has done it other than to openly show that it can be done. I certainly never did it. 

   But thanks for demonstrating so clearly that you’re willing to stoop to lying to try to make someone you don’t like look bad. It makes you look bad. 

@ Moderator1

[YankeeDuchess]

@trubandloki

Yes, someone has. The person who you quoted has done it and said their change clarified the quote, did not change it, and then pages later did one of those ‘oh gee I am sorry’ type posts.
As far as I know, no one else has done that. It is just not how one quotes.

This is a lie.

I have never used the quote feature then gone into the quote to edit it, nor have I done so and claimed that I was just clarifying it, nor have I posted later anything like “Oh gee I sm sorry”.

   Provide evidence of ANY of those posts, or admit you are a liar. 

   As far as I know no one has done it other than to openly show that it can be done. I certainly never did it. 

   But thanks for demonstrating so clearly that you’re willing to stoop to lying to try to make someone you don’t like look bad. It makes you look bad. 

@ Moderator1

[Sdel]

@ohnoO

While we are posting theories, (OK, it was a while ago) I would like to go back to the beginning (I hear y’all groaning—you can cut that out and just walk-on-by :yes:).

I think the issue was originally between LK and MH. I don’t know if LK was jealous of MH’s equestrian life, personal life or all of it, but, IIRC, it was stated that MH is a good rider as, it was mentioned, is her tween daughter and I suspect that both of them are also in possession of attributes that compliment those talents, i.e., hard work, dedication, sacrifice of time, attention to detail, respect, etc, etc, etc! (I didn’t include money, although we know it’s easier to ride the nice ones!)

Was it jealousy that started the whole thing or did MH “do” something to her?

I don’t know if LK wanted more than professional attention from MB, but it has been my experience that any serious trainer will bend over backwards to work with you if you possess the aforementioned attributes. Oh, and keep your mouth shut during lessons.

When LK started her “crusade” against MH, it may not have included MB yet, so he was comfortable taking her to that last horse show. It consequently became his problem because of his relationship with MH who by this time must have been miserable. I’m sure sharing the house was no fun!

So like a lot of guys tend to do, he was just going to fix it!

I wouldn’t think that the plan included a gun, but that is how it unfolded.

(Just a theory :winkgrin:).

Well, my post suggesting such a thing warranted a QFP. Must have hit a nerve. So, I hope your not afraid to be QFP’ed.
”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹

[Joanne]

Here is an interesting list of posts that may be relevant to a post above.

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f…a-twist/page40

Post # 795. Paragraph that starts with “Hell…”

Post #799. Paragraph that starts with “Sick…”

Post #814

Post #816

Post #817

Post #818

Post #820

Post #822

Post #823

Post #824

Post #827

[SonnysMom]

@eggbutt

Did I make any statement indicating these threads aren’t helping (or hurting) MB/MHG? No, I didn’t think so. So much twisting and turning in the breeze.

Today is poem day. Please join in. Here I will share one of my favorites that continues to come to mind when thinking about the decisions made by these folks last year:

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

Robert Frost ~

That is one of my father’s favorites.

[trubandloki]

Thank you @Joanne .

That is exactly the situation I was referring to.

Being a liar is not really my thing… Ask anyone that knows me. I do not have a good enough memory to be a good liar and I can not keep a straight face. I would so suck at poker or anything that requires one to not express they are not being honest.

[trubandloki]

@YankeeDuchess

This is a lie.

I have never used the quote feature then gone into the quote to edit it, nor have I done so and claimed that I was just clarifying it, nor have I posted later anything like “Oh gee I am sorry”.

Provide evidence of ANY of those posts, or admit you are a liar.

As far as I know no one has done it other than to openly show that it can be done. I certainly never did it.

But thanks for demonstrating so clearly that you’re willing to stoop to lying to try to make someone you don’t like look bad. It makes you look bad.

@Moderator1

[eggbutt]

@ohnoO

While we are posting theories, (OK, it was a while ago) I would like to go back to the beginning (I hear y’all groaning—you can cut that out and just walk-on-by :yes:).

I think the issue was originally between LK and MH. I don’t know if LK was jealous of MH’s equestrian life, personal life or all of it, but, IIRC, it was stated that MH is a good rider as, it was mentioned, is her tween daughter and I suspect that both of them are also in possession of attributes that compliment those talents, i.e., hard work, dedication, sacrifice of time, attention to detail, respect, etc, etc, etc! (I didn’t include money, although we know it’s easier to ride the nice ones!)

Was it jealousy that started the whole thing or did MH “do” something to her?

I don’t know if LK wanted more than professional attention from MB, but it has been my experience that any serious trainer will bend over backwards to work with you if you possess the aforementioned attributes. Oh, and keep your mouth shut during lessons.

When LK started her “crusade” against MH, it may not have included MB yet, so he was comfortable taking her to that last horse show. It consequently became his problem because of his relationship with MH who by this time must have been miserable. I’m sure sharing the house was no fun!

So like a lot of guys tend to do, he was just going to fix it!

I wouldn’t think that the plan included a gun, but that is how it unfolded.

(Just a theory :winkgrin:).

I don’t think it is a secret that MH wanted LK & RG out of her and MB’s life. It really doesn’t make any difference why except MB was put in the middle of the mess since they were squatting on his property and disrupting his business and private affairs.

I can’t imagine what would cause LK to think MB would toss MH to the side in favor of her. Or perhaps she believed MH would toss it all in and she and RC would take their horses and leave. Logic doesn’t seem to enter the picture when it comes to LK’s actions.

Additional support for your theory is LK rarely goes after men…in the past she has tormented women only. Women who she apparently is envious of in some way. You can read the bitterness in her posts when she talks about MH’s mother and the apparent need to have a handicapped bathroom installed. I know little of MH’s parents but I don’t think either of them are invalids or disabled.

[FitzE]

@Joanne

Here is an interesting list of posts that may be relevant to a post above.

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f…a-twist/page40

Post # 795. Paragraph that starts with “Hell…”

Post #799. Paragraph that starts with “Sick…”

Post #814

Post #816

Post #817

Post #818

Post #820

Post #822

Post #823

Post #824

Post #827

Oh, snap!!! Thanks for the recall; very educational read.

And there has been some brazen (and really offensive) lying about me on here that I have not reported b/c I cannot imagine being that person.

[cutter99]

@Joanne

Here is an interesting list of posts that may be relevant to a post above.

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f…a-twist/page40

Post # 795. Paragraph that starts with “Hell…”

Post #799. Paragraph that starts with “Sick…”

Post #814

Post #816

Post #817

Post #818

Post #820

Post #822

Post #823

Post #824

Post #827

Thanks Joanne! You are a trooper to ferret out all that!