Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[YankeeDuchess]

@eggbutt

Without being accused of victim-shaming for the umpteenth time, I wonder if Mr. Kanarek wasn’t surprised that LK was injured? I can’t imagine he wasn’t fully aware of things going on at Hawthorne Hill. Obviously he was aware of many of her past actions, certainly not all of them, but her reputation of harassment and pushing people to their limit was documented. That may be why he seemed so calm on the 911 call.

However aware he was of LKs past actions, I would think he would be very surprised to hear she had been shot, given that MB did not have a known history of shooting at people.

[Sdel]

@Denali6298

After reflecting on the deleted post and the recently posted theories, we might have hit a nerve with discussing JK. Maybe we are all wrong but something is definitely there.

The fact that it was pretty much just a string of insults that got deleted around 30 minutes after being posted tells me someone is taking pains to control her behavior. It’s pretty clear LK has no problem posting insults to SM.

[Denali6298]

@Sdel

The fact that it was pretty much just a string of insults that got deleted around 30 minutes after being posted tells me someone is taking pains to control her behavior. It’s pretty clear LK has no problem posting insults to SM.

Well yes but why now? One would think that would have happened prior. Especially since she admitted to not even remembering posting in the very first thread.

[GiveEmEl]

@Sdel

So, back to theories… I suspect it’s dawning on LK, JK, and RG that unlike her previous rants at people on SM and cyberstalking/bullying charges (which are hard to get to stick), the current set of rants and allegations, in the current setting, are very problematic and likely will stick once someone gets around to them.

I’ve got a new twist on the insurance fraud allegation.

In the previous threads we assumed that the insurance check received in September was for the burst pipe over the winter. And in this thread we learned that RG was most likely doing renovations as an unlicensed contractor, and therefore most likely doing un-permitted work. Based on all the hoopla surrounding that conversation, LK is mad that RG got found out and they have no way to get the 50K she was planning on and so she thinks it’s insurance “fraud” that MB filed and received a claim for the damages to the house due to the un-permitted work. If all of RG’s work had to be “undone” in order to properly inspected then depending on the coverage, the insurance co might pay out for this damage and subsequent repairs. If needed I can provide thread and page for my supporting evidence.

Also, and maybe the lawyer types can chime in…if there are tapes, legally usable tapes, that actually have MB, MH, JH, and RC concocting a plan to murder her and RG, as LK claims they explicitly do…where are those conspiracy charges and arrests? They have the tapes, they have MB in jail, they arrested RC for the gun, but if they conspired to commit murder and it is all on tape, why are the other three not in jail? Both the defense and prosecution now have about 20 tapes they are planning on using for this trail. They wouldn’t do two separate trials on MB for different charges, they’d do all of them at once. They do group trials so everyone would be up at once. It has been 9 months since this supposed murder plot was concocted and acted on, supposedly with all the incrimiating evidence on legally sound recordings, where are the conspiracy charges for everyone?

I’ve wondered that myself. She says on the tapes they talk about “doing it” (killing her) but if that were the case there would be more arrests. Conspiracy to commit murder is a serious crime.
My guess is that they never mention murder (what person talks about killing someone when they know there are recording devices?) so there’s no actual proof of the conspiracy she claims.

[Sparky]

@YankeeDuchess

However aware he was of LKs past actions, I would think he would be very surprised to hear she had been shot, given that MB did not have a known history of shooting people.

I almost completely agree, with the tiny modification of adding shooting “at” people. The only one we know of with that history is LK.

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

The fact that it was pretty much just a string of insults that got deleted around 30 minutes after being posted tells me someone is taking pains to control her behavior. It’s pretty clear LK has no problem posting insults to SM.

What I found most interesting about the deletion is I am pretty sure (not going to go look for it, sorry) LK has said in the past that she never deletes things so there is no reason to quote her.

To go from that to a quick delete seems weird.

It also makes me wonder if there are things that she has posted before, at the wee hours, that she removed before we ever saw it.

[Sdel]

@Denali6298

Well yes but why now? One would think that would have happened prior. Especially since she admitted to not even remembering posting in the very first thread.

Because she does this. All the time. That’s just “how she is/how she talks”. It’s normal for all of them. It probably took them this long and the civil/criminal discovery process realize just how far out of bounds she got on this one.

[Denali6298]

@Sdel

Because she does this. All the time. That’s just “how she is/how she talks”. It’s normal for all of them. It probably took them this long and the civil/criminal discovery process realize just how far out of bounds she got on this one.

I’m not totally buying that she can be controlled. I’m not totally buying that her getting shot was a magic wake up call to those who care about her.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

@Denali6298

Well yes but why now? One would think that would have happened prior. Especially since she admitted to not even remembering posting in the very first thread.

Because posters are starting to get close? Maybe in her anger she gave away some clues? Maybe she has started riding a lot and it helps her to think more clearly?

IMO, if she is angry with everyone, and especially with MH, her most healthy form of revenge would be to blow everyone away with great scores and medals. If it were me, I would do exactly that. My best accomplishments out of life came out of being ridiculed or told that I can’t.

[Denali6298]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Because posters are starting to get close? Maybe in her anger she gave away some clues? Maybe she has started riding a lot and it helps her to think more clearly?

IMO, if she is angry with everyone, and especially with MH, her most healthy form of revenge would be to blow everyone away with great scores and medals. If it were me, I would do exactly that. My best accomplishments out of life came out of being ridiculed or told that I can’t.

Well and that’s exactly what I think. I don’t think someone is reining her in. I think she got so spun up and then she realized she slipped up. Then the house guest rolls in to distract us.

[eggbutt]

@Denali6298

Well yes but why now? One would think that would have happened prior. Especially since she admitted to not even remembering posting in the very first thread.

She has always practiced “selective memory” when it suits her. Manipulation, partial quotes, etc. There’s more truth from her in the first thread than people think IMO.

[YankeeDuchess]

@eggbutt

@MorganSercu you bring up an interesting point. If she had recording devices everywhere at the house as she had at the barn, why would she need to record the conversation via her phone with her lawyer? Unless it was to capture everything real-time with a witness. Imagine staging that performance.

Exactly, why would she need to record what was going on with a call to her lawyer?  That’s just something someone made up.

[FitzE]

@NotGrandPrixYet

IMO, if she is angry with everyone, and especially with MH, her most healthy form of revenge would be to blow everyone away with great scores and medals. If it were me, I would do exactly that. My best accomplishments out of life came out of being ridiculed or told that I can’t.

But that takes a lot of work - a lot. I understand from many posts here she didn’t really show up for lessons and riding and was even a no-show at competitions where her horse was already prepped and delivered to the venue as well as scratching from many classes.

Your plan is also the very definition of a long game and I think instant gratification has a lot to do with much of what we are discussing wrt LK. Waiting several years for success in the show ring through hard work doesn’t seem her style of revenge.

[GiveEmEl]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Because posters are starting to get close? Maybe in her anger she gave away some clues? Maybe she has started riding a lot and it helps her to think more clearly?

IMO, if she is angry with everyone, and especially with MH, her most healthy form of revenge would be to blow everyone away with great scores and medals. If it were me, I would do exactly that. My best accomplishments out of life came out of being ridiculed or told that I can’t.

I don’t think “healthy” forms of revenge are her thing.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Denali6298

Well yes but why now? One would think that would have happened prior. Especially since she admitted to not even remembering posting in the very first thread.

I’m with Denali on this one. I think she is having the thread monitored. For one thing, it allows her to step away from it and not be bothered by it continuously.

[eggbutt]

I suspect she and perhaps her family were surprised at the volume of information available to the public via the civil case briefs. Notice that she has been relatively quiet in this thread other than saying basically that lawyers lie for their clients and only go by what they are told in the briefs (same would be said about her lawyers too I suppose). And, of course, the truth will come out and you’ll all be sorry and I’m taking names and keeping files on particular posters. Got it.

[Denali6298]

@Inigo-montoya

Here is my theory as to why LK has been quiet lately: Both SafeSport and USEF have assured her they are jointly monitoring some of the frequent contributors here and are fully aware of everyone’s identity. Perhaps they will not tolerate anyone supporting a felon, perpetuating lies and the USEF has possibly gone directly to SafeSport to report individuals who are embarrassing the sport. Perhaps the USEF and SafeSport are a lot smarter than people here think and are aware Barisone and his supporters have tried to play them for fools and they’re not happy about that.
Of course, I have no inside information…but I’m pretty confident that’s what’s going on.”

I think this person was one of the three that LK said monitors the thread. I also think LK thought it would be a big enough squirrel to keep us busy for 20 pages.

[FitzE]

@Denali6298

I think this person was one of the three that LK said monitors the thread. I also think LK thought it would be a big enough squirrel to keep us busy for 20 pages.

Ah ha! So that poster, USEF, SS and LK are the four monitors. You solved it!

[eggbutt]

@GiveEmEl

I don’t think “healthy” forms of revenge are her thing.

MH was within miles from her for the past few months and nothing was done. It is apparent LK’s grand plan when horribly, horribly wrong. MH is the only one who has walked away unscathed.

[Denali6298]

@eggbutt

She has always practiced “selective memory” when it suits her. Manipulation, partial quotes, etc. There’s more truth from her in the first thread than people think IMO.

I would normally agree with you, but what made me say something to her was she sounded sober in the following threads.