Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Joanne]

Wow.

[FitzE]

Oh, wow.

[Danvers]

@Jenerationx

You owe me a keyboard wipe. Literally laughed out loud.

Thank you, I try…

[skydy]

You must activate the volume as the clip comes up mute…“It is My Theory”, “My Theory, which is mine, is…” https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2oh8ia

[GiveEmEl]

I am almost speechless.
I recommend no one reply because that comment all on its own may be the end of this thread.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

Rape victim here (raises 🤚🏼)

I don’t see the rape victim and the shooting victim in the same light, being one of the former. The majority of rape victims don’t harass their attacker beforehand, so I take issue with you comparing the two.

Nobody (except for the crazy lady from Dressage Hub) is excusing MB for shooting LK. They are trying to figure out what may have been contributing factors to his mental anguish (as stated in his countersuit).

I’m sure he was stressed, probably severely, but I’m not sure I believe that he was temporarily insane and I don’t think that he should be let off easily.

[Omgitsme]

I’m a rape survivor and am utterly flabbergasted. But GEE is right…best not to engage.

[Denali6298]

@skydy

You must activate the volume as the clip comes up mute…“It is My Theory” “My Theory is…” https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2oh8ia

:lol::lol: excellent

[skydy]

@Denali6298

:lol::lol: excellent

Makes about as much sense…you read through that entire post and it makes as much sense as Anne Elk (Miss)

[Danvers]

I don’t know how to do the quote stuff but WOW!
Inigo"Why don’t you tell us about all the attempted double murders involving a big time Equestrian celebrity in which the USEF and SafeSport have been so intimately involved."

Who is the Equestrian Celebrity? I have no idea who this is - do we need to start a new thread? this just gets more and more interesting and btw: that was a sinister comment… kinda scared me…

[eggbutt]

@Danvers

I don’t know how to do the quote stuff but WOW!
Inigo"Why don’t you tell us about all the attempted double murders involving a big time Equestrian celebrity in which the USEF and SafeSport have been so intimately involved."

Who is the Equestrian Celebrity? I have no idea who this is - do we need to start a new thread? this just gets more and more interesting and btw: that was a sinister comment… kinda scared me…

Michael Barisone is the presumed equestrian celebrity. It certainly isn’t Lauren Kanarek!

To quote, simply hit the “quote” button at the bottom of the post you want to quote and a new dialog box will open for you to add your comments.

[Danvers]

@eggbutt

Michael Barisone is the presumed equestrian celebrity. It certainly isn’t Lauren Kanarek!

To quote, simply hit the “quote” button at the bottom of the post you want to quote and a new dialog box will open for you to add your comments.

sorry - late - got it after I read the post - stupid response… it sounded like she was talking about someone else…

[skydy]

@GiveEmEl

I am almost speechless.
I recommend no one reply because that comment all on its own may be the end of this thread.

If that is so, why would it matter what we said after the comment?

[eggbutt]

“Who are you?"
“No one of consequence.”
“I must know.”
"Get used to disappointment.”

“Inconceivable!” (Interesting tidbit…this word is part of LK’s FB profile)
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

“I’ll tell you the truth and it’s up to you to live with it.”

“As you wish…”

[eggbutt]

@skydy

Makes about as much sense…you read through that entire post and it makes as much sense as Ann Elk, Miss.

Oh, dear! You forgot the parenthesis! Ann Elk, (Miss). Fixed it for you.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Inigo-montoya

I didn’t think I’d have to expound upon my theory presented a few days ago but unfortunately many members seem unwilling or unable to understand it.
First…I plainly said from the start it was my THEORY. Despite that several participants immediately said it sounded like a threat. And someone…Eggbutt I believe…immediately dumped on my theory by saying that is not what the USEF or SafeSport do. Oh really, Eggbutt? Why don’t you tell us about all the attempted double murders involving a big time Equestrian celebrity in which the USEF and SafeSport have been so intimately involved. Has it crossed your mind that this is such a special delicate situation that they wanna make sure they do everything right? That they may be doing things they don’t ordinarily do? That in 2020…in what was supposed to be an Olympic year…they don’t wanna be embarrassed? Remember…this is just my theory.
Further, although I didn’t mean to imply they give a damn about what any of you say individually or who you are IRL ( unless you’re a USEF official or judge, etc.) they don’t want to be seen as having any tolerance for victim shaming…again…just my theory.
So, I’ll stay with you, Eggbutt…for now.
You’ve claimed many times, including today, that you are not an MB apologist…just a person involved in a discussion about what may have happened in the matter in LK and MB. Do you think we are fools? Your comments have been 100% one sided since the beginning…and here’s why you are dangerous…in my theory, of course.
Despite the fact that MB tried to murder two people you constantly try to make the case that his victims may not have been ideal citizens. SO WHAT? He shot them?
And, since you seem to know so much about SafeSport you’ll know that much of what SafeSport deals with are allegations of sexual abuse of young girls. I suppose we can expect you to come to the defense of these sexual predators by saying “well that 10 year girl was a spoiled brat” or “ that 12 year old girl is a real bitch” or “ that 21 year old girl was expelled from school and has many disputes on SM.” You are clearly not beyond defending a rapist if you don’t like his victim because you are clearly defending a would be double murderer because you don’t like his victim!!!
Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. Two days later Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Neither Ruby nor his attorneys raised the defense “well it was Oswald so it was excusable. No! That’s not a defense.
What you are doing here is NOT a non partisan discussion of a crime. It is victim shaming…just like it would be if you speaking badly of a sexual abuse victim. And that’s how the USEF and SafeSport see it. And that’s not a theory!
Just to be clear…I have no dog in this fight. I’m only interested in the sport of Equestrian and what not only the USEF will think but also what the US and International Olympic Committees will think of us.
Sorry to pick on you, Eggbutt. I certainly have no idea of your true identity and you are not alone here. But I seriously ask all of you to ask yourselves…”would you treat a victim of sexual abuse as shabbily if you had questions about her character?” I hope not.

Hey! Welcome to COTH. You’re relatively new here, I suppose you were lured in by this thread. You sound familiar, do I know you from somewhere?

[MorganSercu]

@Ambitious Kate

If, as LK said, its true that LK had RG create an LLC for his contracting work, thenn RG’s liablity for his big mess of mistakes and lack of being licensed, his liablity is very limited, and he and might get off having to pay any penalties for his mistakes.

Daddy Kanarek may have helped RG create the LLC, and advised him about contracts and how to keep him out of the liablity loop, and may have had some conversations with RG (and LK) when the work was cited as illegal and either shut down or taken apart for inspection. I would imagine that RG, LK and JK all three are on the LLC for his work, now that I think about it. If RG was actually making money, you can bet that LK wanted to receive some of it, and not getting that 50k would be a big blow to her, seeing as how she doesn’t work. That would make some sense, that all three were on the LLC, and go some way to explain why LK and JK are so involved with this disaster. Remember once LK was walking down the driveway near the barn screaming over the phone on a conversation with her father, and at MB about things?

Now add to this mess the idea that MB got some insurance money, say, for the mess that RG did, and how RG ruined things, and MB refused to pay RG? And the insurance money came his way precisely because RG made a mess of things, and perhaps fixed them? Or, the deal was to pay RG from the insurance payout from the previous winter’s pipe burst, but by the time the money showed up, RG was cited for being unlicensed, the COO was denied, the fire marshall had inspected and found umpteen hundred problems, nailed notices on the house that these parts of the property were uninhabitable, and MB refused to pay a single penny to RG? How pissed would LK be? How involved in this back and forth would JK be?

Now there’s a theory.

I found his LLC, it is in NC and there was a lot of discussion about the fact that NJ doesn’t care about the dollar threshold or making yourself an LLC who then breaks a job into ever-smaller pieces of $499 or less as a work-around. You do renovation work? You have a license or you are owed nothing. Worse, you are possibly owing the homeowner 3x the cost. The burden is on the contractor, not the person who hired them.

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹You also have to be licensed in NJ. Robert Goodwin has no professional license in NJ. I looked. I even copied and pasted the info from the website.

[Ambitious_Kate]

Thanks, MS. That’s good straight forward facts.

As for Inigo Montoya - wow. talk about false analogies. Cant you come up with a comparison to Nazis? That’s the correlation I really care about!!

The only one who says LK was shot by MB is LK. And I don’t believe her. It may come out in the trial that she was indeed shot by MB, but it will take the trial for me to believe that, not anything LK or you, her boon companion, says. MY theory is that the gun went off accidently, or was aimed at the dog, and she was shot when LK jumped on MB, or when RG jumped on MB, or perhaps was brought to the scene by LK or RG, and MB took it away from her, or him, or tried to, but everytthing was an entire mistake. So just because you’re all self rightous, doesn’t mean I believe you. But you have a right to have a theory. Just don’t shame anyone else for theirs. And shaming people on this thread because you think they wouodn’t beleive a rape victim is…just magical thinking. See how I used the elipsis there? Three dots. Back to the shaming.

Shaming people because they don’t believe LK’s story is useless. Her reputation precedes her. How and why she was shot is up for debate and unproven. So we will discuss that, with or without your indignation, thanks.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@MorganSercu

I found his LLC, it is in NC and there was a lot of discussion about the fact that NJ doesn’t care about the dollar threshold or making yourself an LLC who then breaks a job into ever-smaller pieces of $499 or less as a work-around. You do renovation work? You have a license or you are owed nothing. Worse, you are possibly owing the homeowner 3x the cost. The burden is on the contractor, not the person who hired them.

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹You also have to be licensed in NJ. Robert Goodwin has no professional license in NJ. I looked. I even copied and pasted the info from the website.

Did you notice who the principals are in this LLC? Out of interest.

[MorganSercu]

Also, I believe Jonathan Kanarek is retired. If so, he no longet has a license to worry about.

LK stated she is the one who urged RG to set up the LLC to protect himself. If he were licensed in NJ and Barisone or Sweet Grass Farm failed to pay him for services rendered, then RG’s LLC would have grounds to sue. Nothing. Remember, we are talking $50,000 or thereabouts. That is quite a sum to let go unaddressed.

RG is the sole principal. Someone in TX is on the form. Resident Agent? I forget now.