Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[CanteringCarrot]

@Dragonfly90

If it was LK that had been raped, of course there are people here that would treat her shabbily. Of course they at first wouldn’t even believe her, wouldn’t believe that she was even attacked no matter what evidence of the assault exist. Then they would say she asked for it or had a devious plan that got out of control. Maybe even she was the one that actually assaulted him! And if he did do it who could blame him (a mythical attacker, not accusing anyone), he just was under a lot of stress from her behavior and lost control. And while they would not believe anything she says, they would quote things he said before he was arrested and also his defense lawyer after as the absolute truth and evidence. They would then add ”but of course he shouldn’t have done it”. But she is a terrible person and the world needs to know. The hate for her(and animosity for anyone expressing a different viewpoint) here is so obvious no matter how many times people say “we are just politely discussing the case.” And anyone that doesn’t agree with piling it on the victim in this case should shut up and leave.
Also, all this discussion about LK removing the last comment she made, the mod said she removed several comments of posters bickering, perhaps that’s what happen. IDK. And as far as knowing who people are, several of you have posted on Facebook, telling the same story and using same words on this topic, not hard to figure out, if for some reason anyone wanted to know.
And I will say goodbye again for now, it is only the polite thing to do when leaving a conversation.

But what does that say about a person’s character that someone would even consider blaming them for being raped or shot? I mean it says something about those placing the blame, don’t get me wrong, but what does that say about the victim.

I don’t reject the fact that LK was a victim in respect to the fact that she was shot by MB (if that is the case), but as others have mentioned repeatedly, if this happened to someone else, there wouldn’t be such a fuss. So there is something about this person that doesn’t make them the average good doing “Jane” now is that relevant? Well, a court can decide that.

I’m not for victim blaming. However, I do feel as though people do play a part in bringing certain situations on themselves. Not always, but sometimes.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Ambitious Kate

We aren’t going to go around speculating about the identity of posters here. At least not on this thread.

Yeah, that’s why I said no one has to answer the question. They are free to remain anonymous. I don’t care who that individual is, just a general observation.

[MorganSercu]

@Knights Mom

It’s late, I’m lazy but yeah NJ has that treble damages thing. So does Florida. Here’s a peek of snippets of statute without me doing actual research.

“It’s tempting to hire an unlicensed contractor. Their services are low cost, and you are not even legally obligated to pay them. In Florida, unlicensed contracting can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the facts. Consequently, unlicensed contractors generally possess no contract or lien rights.”

"New Jersey General Contractor License Requirements. To work as a contractor in the State of New Jersey, you’ll need register with the Division of Consumer Affairs , as well as to obtain a license issued by the State’s Department of Banking & Insurance (DOBI) if you are providing financing."

“Any person who suffers an ascertainable loss of moneys or property, real or personal, as a result of an unlawful practice under the NJCFA may be awarded threefold damages and reasonable attorney’s fees and costs. N.J.S.A. 56:8-19.”

YEAH SO MAYBE THAT’S WHY. [ATTACH=JSON]{“data-align”:“none”,“data-size”:“large”,“data-attachmentid”:10609053}[/ATTACH]

Bumping for recent poster. Way back on page 10!

[MorganSercu]

@MorganSercu

Sdel - I will eat crow now. With a big slice of cheddar cheese.

Limited Liability Company

Legal Name
East Coast Operations LLC

Information

SosId: 1830802
Status: Current-Active
Date Formed: 4/12/2019
Citizenship: Domestic
Annual Report Due Date: April 15th
Annual Report Status:

Current

Registered Agent: Goodwin, Robert G

Addresses

Mailing
350 Norman Farm Road
Summerfield, NC 27358

Principal Office
350 Norman Farm Road
Summerfield, NC 27358

Reg Office
350 Norman Farm Road
Summerfield, NC 27358

Reg Mailing
350 Norman Farm Road
Summerfield, NC 27358

Company Officials

All LLCs are managed by their managers pursuant to N.C.G.S. 57D-3-20.
Member
Robert G Goodwin
350 Norman Farm Road
Summerfield NC 27358

https://www.sosnc.gov/online_service…eport/15090980

Bumping

[MorganSercu]

From Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

Lauren’s response to a question.

Sep. 6, 2019, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
Why do you feel your TRAINER owed you $50k?

Have you turned pro?
It’s none of your godamn business why he owed us 50 k (that’s a VERY generous number.) Ask him. He’s in cell block D.

[MorganSercu]

@La-LaPopRider

You know exactly which company he worked for. You also know, they ONLY do bathrooms. Not kitchens. The owners wife is your “friend.” Even though RG refused to so as much as touch a bathroom in the farmhouse, due to MH’s clear lack of comprehension on how measurements work, every bathroom he did touch at the company you’re referring to earned him a 5 star rating as an “installer,” on every single survey completed by clients. This is fact. Perhaps, you should confirm with your friend that they DO, in FACT, send employers each survey by email. The sales person is rated, the installers are rated as are all parties who had direct exchanges with a client. On most occasions, it was the 5 rating given to the “installer,” (RG) which raised the general review score’s sum total- for others’ who scored quite low. On zero occasions was a complaint made or poor score given to RG - when he, himself was the installer.

Im not exactly sure how his “gone missing,” event is relevant here. He continued to work there, for quite some time after that. But um… why continue to work for someone else’s company, when he A.) dislikes the bathroom remodeling business & B.) keeps all the profit for himself when working under his own LLC ?? Yeah. I didn’t understand it either- Luckily, he took my advice.

FYI- in regards to your sign off using “Semper Fi,” I should inform you, unless YOU - YOU YOURSELF are or have been a USMC Marine, it is considered horribly disrespectful to sign off using the term. Since we both know you are not & have never been a Marine, best not to use it. It’s part of a serious brotherhood/sisterhood greeting or post script. You are not part of either. Refrain.

To avoid finding & quoting another post, I’ll just say this- @tryingtogetthere He made it through basic. And, luckily, a few other places, too. Either thank him for his service or kindly [edit]. Disgusting.

The bolding is mine - Lauren did advise him to start his own business (and get the LLC, I presume). He failed to get licensed in New Jersey though.

I quoted the entire post so it couldn’t be taken out of context. Not because I think the entire post is relevant to the remodeling/licensing points raised recently.

[Angela_Freda]

@NotGrandPrixYet

I follow a lot of what you are saying, but then why is battered person syndrome MB’s response (in the counterclaim)? Wouldn’t he just day it was an accidental shooting?

The reason he took the gun with him, either by choice or at the advice of someone was due to poor judgement and PTSD of sorts from having been harassed, threatened, and potentially in fear of the out of control/likes to bite dog.
{theories}

[MorganSercu]

@Angela Freda

The reason he took the gun with him, either by choice or at the advice of someone was due to poor judgement and PTSD of sorts from having been harassed, threatened, and potentially in fear of the out of control/likes to bite dog.
{theories}

Plus Lauren had discussed on social media that her gun was “hot”. So he may have thought she had a firearm. Or at least that is brought up in the lawsuit Barisone filed.

{theory}

[eggbutt]

@Ambitious Kate

And I agree entirrely, that this situation went waaaay out of LK’s control, and that she had intended to make life miserable for MH, and that there was some kind of switch went off on MB because he was creating a fabulous environment of support and horses and a future for MH, which he defended even when LK went off on MH. Removing MH’s children from her partner, or hopefully her, was a goal. Making the business MB had built up fall apart was a delight. If MB wasn’t going to train LK with the intesnsity he was putting into MH, and he wasn’t, because it was clear that LK wasn’t putting in the work, or intention that intense training and attention required, then LK was going to make sure he and everything about him and MH was miserable.

When the barn divided into camps and left LK out in the cold; when MB wanted LK out; when everyone was hoping and putting pressure on MB to get rid of LK, he went to an attorney, tried to evict them, tried to get restraints on them in the form of new agreements about how they would handle themselves on the property, to mitigate any future damage they woudl do to the house or his clients, she was a forest fire he didn’t know how to contain. But LK’s delightful summer camp project ruining whatever she could for MB and MH wasn’t supposed to go THIS way. And she was supposed to get 50k from MB, and when he stopped that, and wouldn’t pay it, she snapped. Thats’ what I think instigated this.

And holy cow, people. What if he had brought the gun to protect himself from the dog, but had come to the house specifically as she claims he said - How can I make this right, what can I do? and RG went into the house, disgusted, prehaps, or because it wasn’t his fight, and inadvertently let the dog out, MB turns the gun on the dog, not knowing what was happening, and LK, having come off the porch to talk, sees that and jumps MB, the gun goes off towards the dog/house, then shes on top of him, beating him with her phone, and RG comes out, is on top of him, trying to get the gun out of his hand, and MB is afraid they will use it on him and tries to hold onto it, and it goes off accidently into her. And all she ever wanted was MH to lose her boyfriend and her rides on fabulous horses, and not get the horse MB was going to give her, and have MB break up with her and have to leave with her kids, so MB would then have LK as his “star pupil”, but MB already didn’t think LK was any kind of a star pupil, what with her cancelling her classes, and not working on her training. So this whole thing erupted out of her plan to stalk and harrass a man and his family and barn and employees and business.

That’s my theory.

Be careful…be very careful. Several of us posted this theory waaayyyy back in the first thread and were shredded with ugly comments for being so harsh and for victim shaming. Heck, I was even quoted in the NYT! :eek: So now many have targets on their backs. Welcome to the club. And, by the way, it’s no surprise that I agree almost 100% with your theory.

Something has triggered a new dose of angst with particular posters. Was it the examination of daddy’s involvement or the further look into RG’s license? It doesn’t make any difference. The constant threat of USEF/SS is interesting for sure. Of all the posters on this thread, being suspended or banned by the federation would be the most harmful to LK’s lofty goals. Sometimes we make the most noise out of what we ourselves are concerned about.

I am relieved that so many are finally seeing the “real” LK. The one so many have known about for so long. I am deeply offended that rape and child abuse victims were brought up in the same breath as LK. No rape or child abuse victim asks for any of the harm that befalls them.

I clearly remember the minute I heard she’d been shot…It was an immediate thought of “wonder who she pushed too far”.

Reasonable doubt. Just one juror. MB is no saint but I haven’t heard one iota of logical defense for LK’s actions provoking so much drama. Note that MB’s attorneys even listed it was LK’s obligation to leave the property (paraphrasing and perhaps typical legalize - I’m certainly not an attorney).

[NotGrandPrixYet]

@Angela Freda

The reason he took the gun with him, either by choice or at the advice of someone was due to poor judgement and PTSD of sorts from having been harassed, threatened, and potentially in fear of the out of control/likes to bite dog.
{theories}

Be careful there, some of what you say can be interpreted as showing intent.

[ohnoO]

Don’t forget that the offers for help to move her, etal., came from a few states away—for some reason Ohio or beyond sticks in my head, but she needed to move locally and she couldn’t because meanie MB had warned all the local/surrounding barns not to take her in. IIRC.

[eggbutt]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Be careful there, some of what you say can be interpreted as showing intent.

Or protection based on previous threats.

[Denali6298]

@eggbutt

Be careful…be very careful. Several of us posted this theory waaayyyy back in the first thread and were shredded with ugly comments for being so harsh and for victim shaming. Heck, I was even quoted in the NYT! :eek: So now many have targets on their backs. Welcome to the club. And, by the way, it’s no surprise that I agree almost 100% with your theory.

Something has triggered a new dose of angst with particular posters. Was it the examination of daddy’s involvement or the further look into RG’s license? It doesn’t make any difference. The constant threat of USEF/SS is interesting for sure. Of all the posters on this thread, being suspended or banned by the federation would be the most harmful to LK’s lofty goals. Sometimes we make the most noise out of what we ourselves are concerned about.

I am relieved that so many are finally seeing the “real” LK. The one so many have known about for so long. I am deeply offended that rape and child abuse victims were brought up in the same breath as LK. No rape or child abuse victim asks for any of the harm that befalls them.

I clearly remember the minute I heard she’d been shot…It was an immediate thought of “wonder who she pushed too far”.

Reasonable doubt. Just one juror. MB is no saint but I haven’t heard one iota of logical defense for LK’s actions provoking so much drama. Note that MB’s attorneys even listed it was LK’s obligation to leave the property (paraphrasing and perhaps typical legalize - I’m certainly not an attorney).

I think the issue was/is, at least for me, at first no one admitted to knowing the players. So the theory that MB didn’t shoot LK and LK is the only one claiming she was shot by MB and not to be believed was ridiculous. It still is. That’s a theory based solely on liking MB more than LK or just not liking LK. That’s why it reads as victim shaming. Not liking someone and thinking they lie is not a reason to think this shooting was accidental.

I’d be surprised if MB went over there to shoot LK. I also don’t think it was an accidental firing and just so happen to hit LK. One doesn’t accidentally discharge a weapon multiple times. The fact that he took a gun for intimidation, I doubt it was for the dog, just speaks volumes as to MB’s mindset.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

@eggbutt

Be careful…be very careful. Several of us posted this theory waaayyyy back in the first thread and were shredded with ugly comments for being so harsh and for victim shaming. Heck, I was even quoted in the NYT! :eek: So now many have targets on their backs. Welcome to the club. And, by the way, it’s no surprise that I agree almost 100% with your theory.

Something has triggered a new dose of angst with particular posters. Was it the examination of daddy’s involvement or the further look into RG’s license? It doesn’t make any difference. The constant threat of USEF/SS is interesting for sure. Of all the posters on this thread, being suspended or banned by the federation would be the most harmful to LK’s lofty goals. Sometimes we make the most noise out of what we ourselves are concerned about.

I am relieved that so many are finally seeing the “real” LK. The one so many have known about for so long. I am deeply offended that rape and child abuse victims were brought up in the same breath as LK. No rape or child abuse victim asks for any of the harm that befalls them.

I clearly remember the minute I heard she’d been shot…It was an immediate thought of “wonder who she pushed too far”.

Reasonable doubt. Just one juror. MB is no saint but I haven’t heard one iota of logical defense for LK’s actions provoking so much drama. Note that MB’s attorneys even listed it was LK’s obligation to leave the property (paraphrasing and perhaps typical legalize - I’m certainly not an attorney).

Ok, she didn’t ASK to be shot. She did provoke him to anger and POSSIBLY to insanity, but how he handled that was his decision. Resorting to violence is not the answer.

[NotGrandPrixYet]

@eggbutt

Or protection based on previous threats.

I see your point there. But it could be argued either way in court, and I’m sure it will be.

[eggbutt]

@Denali6298

I think the issue was/is, at least for me, at first no one admitted to knowing the players. So the theory that MB didn’t shoot LK and LK is the only one claiming she was shot by MB and not to be believed was ridiculous. It still is. That’s a theory based solely on liking MB more than LK or just not liking LK. That’s why it reads as victim shaming. Not liking someone and thinking they lie is not a reason to think this shooting was accidental.

I’d be surprised if MB went over there to shoot LK. I also don’t think it was an accidental firing and just so happen to hit LK. One doesn’t accidentally discharge a weapon multiple times. The fact that he took a gun for intimidation, I doubt it was for the dog, just speaks volumes as to MB’s mindset.

I respect your opinion.

Do you discount the possibility that he took the gun for protection based on previous threats from LK? Can you visualize the scenario AK put forth that MB could have thought LK (and possibly the dog and RG) were coming at him in a menacing manner and he either perceived he was in danger or the gun went off in a struggle? It is LK who says she was shot “point-blank”. That sounds like a struggle situation to me. Why would he wait until she was within inches of him to shoot her if he planned to murder them as LK imagines?

[FitzE]

Several posters have a logical fallacy problem. Two of these posters also use survivors of rape to make their point, which is repugnant, so it’s not surprising.

IF someone blames LK for being shot (most don’t, but assuming arguendo they do) it does not follow that they would blame anyone else for being shot. An even further and more repulsive reach is that they would blame a victim for being raped or abused. That reasoning fails even the most basic logic. It is simply the amoral use of crime victims to make a point and that is truly low.

The singular issue here is that there is a person who has made a name and reputation for herself in the small world of horse sports (and, it is worth noting, enjoys that same infamy outside the horse world, so it is a consistent trait of hers).

Through her active and admitted (and screen shot) behaviour - mockery, ridicule, bullying, name calling, vitriol, anger, revenge, insult - she has cultivated for herself and by her own choice a life in which there are now several of her victims and even more bystanders who deeply dislike and even fear her for legitimate reasons. In addition she has in her past: gun violence, assault, stalking, cyber stalking, a restraining order, a police record.

She herself has wished harm on people in bad situations in a truly depraved way (screen shot from the NYT article: LK wishes GJ to die of an overdose while mocking her about her dead child; she also speculated on what GJ was doing while her child drowned and LK described in lurid detail a sexual situation that LK imagined was going on during the time the child died - sounds very much like the victim blaming YD, IM, Dragonfly and others are so very concerned about).

Someone disliking this particular victim says absolutely nothing about how they view any other victim. This is especially true if such person is also one of LK’s victims. Suggesting it does is logically false, highly manipulative, and ultimately, the way it was done here, a poor reflection on those who have done it.

Shame on those who did it to make their point with not a single thought for the victims that had to read their self-serving blather.

[Denali6298]

@eggbutt

I respect your opinion.

Do you discount the possibility that he took the gun for protection based on previous threats from LK? Can you visualize the scenario AK put forth that MB could have thought LK (and possibly the dog and RG) were coming at him in a menacing manner and he either perceived he was in danger or the gun went off in a struggle? It is LK who says she was shot “point-blank”. That sounds like a struggle situation to me. Why would he wait until she was within inches of him to shoot her if he planned to murder them as LK imagines?

I don’t think he shot her point blank. That is definitely embellishment on LKs part.

I can picture the scenario AK put forth, the only part I disagree with and reads as blaming the victim is all shots were unintentional. I don’t doubt that MB fired intentionally at LK. I do think the gun went off accidentally when he was struggling with RG.

[x-halt-salute]

@FitzE

When you get to the moment when you use survivors of rape and child abuse as human fodder to make your point, you have lost. And lost in every possible way that means anything. You are a profoundly bankrupt person.

Sorry to all the survivors who had to read that and to the poster targeted by those cheapest of cheap shots.

Some people have no shame, no sticking point, no bottom.

Thank you.

I considered jumping in in the past when others made this revolting comparison, but wasn’t sure I could respond dispassionately.

[FitzE]

@x-halt-salute

Thank you.

I considered jumping in in the past when others made this revolting comparison, but wasn’t sure I could respond dispassionately.

It is truly beyond the pale and that is really saying something given some of the things that have been posted.