Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Denali6298

I liken it to RG’s broken hand/wrist. We all know it didn’t happen based on pictures LK posted. Also, I am fascinated by the fact the RG isn’t anywhere on the civil case. I’m sorry, but if someone tried to shoot me and some of my bones were broken in the process, you bet I’d be suing!

This has been curious to me, too. So he’s just laying low? I wonder if what happened is not at all what LK said, and RG knows it, and might even have to tell his side of it. RG, now ‘boyfriend’ and not ‘fiance’. RG may well have to testify. “Tell you what, RG, we let all that ‘unlicensed contractor’ stuff go, but you have to tell the truth, here.”

If he knows something different than LK is saying, and he was an unlicensed contractor, he may have been told he’d be better off not suing, and better off not perpetuating her stories, because he may be asked on the stand about them.

Just my speculation. Just my thoughts.

[Denali6298]

@Ambitious Kate

Yes, they broke, but YD is saying they broke the previous winter. I never got the impression they broke the previous winter. I got the impression that they broke around the time of the downfall of the relationship and were part of the bad blood between them, and was a big part the reason the family had to move out of the house which was inspected and uninhabitable, which was why it was so outrageous that LK and RG continued to live in the house. If they broke while they were all the way, its more likely they broke while they were in Florida in the summer, and they all came home to the ruined house. There were no frozen pipes in summer. If there was a cause for the bust pipes, I would suspect RG’s shoddy bathroom tinkering.

I’m not willing lay blame on RG. That speculation is just as bad as YD’s IMO. Pipes can burst for a variety of reasons that have zero to do with tinkering.

I would say it’s plausible the story about the 50k was created to explain away staying in a place with an eviction notice due to it being uninhabitable. I think it’s plausible that the bursts pipes gave MB a reason to immediately evict LK due to not having a contract and allowing him to avoid a lengthy eviction process.

[Denali6298]

@tryintogethere

The pipes burst in January 2019. Everyone including LK came back from FL in late April, early May.

Is it possible, the extent of the damage wasn’t discovered until later? Or is LK telling the truth, that they moved into the barn for other reasons?

[Denali6298]

@YankeeDuchess

The early NYT article said that MB had moved out of the house due to damage to the main house from burst water pipes. In some thread or other, posters said the NYT article was wrong about that being the reason MB moved to the barn, and that the pipes had burst back in the winter and had been fixed by August, so his moving to the barn was not due to burst water pipes as claimed by the NYT.

My point was that pipes freezing in winter would not be an example of LK trashing the house, as I thought Kate was suggesting, if LK, along with everyone else was in Florida when they burst.

Yes and that article belonged on page six. The ONLY person the reporter talked to was LK. I was disappointed in the story as it should have been done in a manner so it wouldn’t be construed as completely factual. It created more questions than it answered.

[Ambitious_Kate]

Ok, I’m wrong. I do apologize. I thought they had come home early August and the pipes burst at that time. My mistake.

[Denali6298]

@Ambitious Kate

Ok, I’m wrong. I do apologize. I thought they had come home early August and the pipes burst at that time. My mistake.

Honestly we need a spread sheet at this point :lol: And maybe a Ven diagram.

[tryintogethere]

The pipes froze and burst in January 2019 while everyone was in FL. That is a fact. The person checking on the house notified MB of the issue in January, unfortunately since they did not check every day, the water ran for a time. The burst pipes had nothing to do with MB & MH moving out of the house into the clubroom in the barn.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Denali6298

Is it possible, the extent of the damage wasn’t discovered until later? Or is LK telling the truth, that they moved into the barn for other reasons?

I did think that they moved into the barn because the house was uninhabitable, and that LK and RG should have left, then, as well, but I am rightly corrected from speculating, and I guess that is all something that will come out in the trial, and not something we will know. Its interesting though, because all this somehow plays into the scenario as it escalated, doesn’t it.

[Denali6298]

@tryintogethere

The pipes froze and burst in January 2019 while everyone was in FL. That is a fact. The person checking on the house notified MB of the issue in January, unfortunately since they did not check every day, the water ran for a time. The burst pipes had nothing to do with MB & MH moving out of the house into the clubroom in the barn.

In the first court appearance it was brought up that the Fire Marshall declared a building uninhabitable. Was that the house? Or did LK and RG live in a dependency and it was that building?

[Knights_Mom]

Don’t most people turn off the water when they’re away for a long time?

[Denali6298]

@Ambitious Kate

I did think that they moved into the barn because the house was uninhabitable, and that LK and RG should have left, then, as well, but I am rightly corrected from speculating, and I guess that is all something that will come out in the trial, and not something we will know. Its interesting though, because all this somehow plays into the scenario as it escalated, doesn’t it.

It does and I can’t remember what all was said about it. There seemed to be confusion about where on the property LK lived.

[Knights_Mom]

@Denali6298

In the first court appearance it was brought up that the Fire Marshall declared a building uninhabitable. Was that the house? Or did LK and RG live in a dependency and it was that building?

This confuses me. In my jurisdiction once the fire department declares it uninhabitable they remove you and no court can put you back in.

[Denali6298]

@Knights Mom

This confuses me. In my jurisdiction once the fire department declares it uninhabitable they remove you and no court can put you back in.

I think they refused and hadn’t gotten to the forcibly part yet.

[tryintogethere]

@Denali6298

In the first court appearance it was brought up that the Fire Marshall declared a building uninhabitable. Was that the house? Or did LK and RG live in a dependency and it was that building?

It was the house that LK, RG and MB, MH were living in before MB & MH moved into the barn.

[Denali6298]

@tryintogethere

It was the house that LK, RG and MB, MH were living in before MB & MH moved into the barn.

So they all shared the house and when it’s said MB drove to LK’s it means he drove to his house?

[YankeeDuchess]

@Denali6298

Is it possible, the extent of the damage wasn’t discovered until later? Or is LK telling the truth, that they moved into the barn for other reasons?

Actually, it was posters other than LK who said they moved into the barn long after the pipes had been fixed.

[tryintogethere]

@Knights Mom

Don’t most people turn off the water when they’re away for a long time?

Not always in old houses with steam heat radiators. They don’t always make out well without some heat.

[Knights_Mom]

@Denali6298

I think they refused and hadn’t gotten to the forcibly part yet.

No you are removed right then and there.

[tryintogethere]

@Denali6298

So they all shared the house and when it’s said MB drove to LK’s it means he drove to his house?

Correct!

[Denali6298]

@YankeeDuchess

Actually, it was posters other than LK who said they moved into the barn long after the pipes had been fixed.

I’m aware. I was asking why.