Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Maybe Europe??? Somewhere in Europe with lots of foreign languages.

Sure. Go to one of those rollkuring, hyperflexing, trainers like Gal, Helgstrand, Kittel, AvG because yanno, loves her horses.

[OntheFence]

@Denali6298

I don’t think it’s a matter of accommodating 4-6 stalls. I think it is a matter of accommodating LK.

After this incident, I’m guessing no barn In this area (NJ) will want to deal with her baggage.

[eggbutt]

@OntheFence

After this incident, I’m guessing no barn In this area (NJ) will want to deal with her baggage.

She insists she can go anywhere she wants and train with anyone she wants. She basically said that in one of these threads, maybe this one.

From Post 103: “In all seriousness, all of your “predictions,” wrt me “finding a trainer,” & “being unable to board all my horses, after this “ & so many other ridiculous predilections have been wrong. I promise, the day I’m unable to hire the trainer I want or find myself “unable,” to board all my current horses & any new horses, I will send you a message in Morse code. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. But… you are right in that, my original plans to bring at least 4 of my horses to EU or stay in Fla past June have been temporarily halted due to COVID -19. Of course, the post about going overseas in the first place, was made over 2 months ago. The post re: being unable to go… was made last week. Maybe your “friend of a friend of a friend,” should sharpen his/her reading skills??”

[Graymaresrule]

@eggbutt

She insists she can go anywhere she wants and train with anyone she wants. She basically said that in one of these threads, maybe this one.

From Post 103: “In all seriousness, all of your “predictions,” wrt me “finding a trainer,” & “being unable to board all my horses, after this “ & so many other ridiculous predilections have been wrong. I promise, the day I’m unable to hire the trainer I want or find myself “unable,” to board all my current horses & any new horses, I will send you a message in Morse code. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. But… you are right in that, my original plans to bring at least 4 of my horses to EU or stay in Fla past June have been temporarily halted due to COVID -19. Of course, the post about going overseas in the first place, was made over 2 months ago. The post re: being unable to go… was made last week. Maybe your “friend of a friend of a friend,” should sharpen his/her reading skills??”

If you are a trainer and have 4 or 6 empty stalls you might be willing to take your chances with the craycray

[eggbutt]

@Graymaresrule

If you are a trainer and have 4 or 6 empty stalls you might be willing to take your chances with the craycray

But they probably wouldn’t be LK’s trainer of choice. Remember, she prefers FEI/Olympic trainers because she only rides with the best. Guess Dover is preoccupied currently.

[MorganSercu]

@Denali6298

I don’t think it’s a matter of accommodating 4-6 stalls. I think it is a matter of accommodating LK.

At the low, low price of one’s peace of mind and privacy. She comes with cameras after all and no compunctions about setting them up without permission. The FBI & NSA envy her collection of hidden recording devices.
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[Denali6298]

@Knights Mom

When you are in fear for your horse’s lives, you go.

And IMHO realistically, NO WHERE can accommodate LK for very long.

Yes of course. My thought is, is LK called around locally and got told there was no room because her crazy was already hanging out.

[Graymaresrule]

@eggbutt

She insists she can go anywhere she wants and train with anyone she wants. She basically said that in one of these threads, maybe this one.

From Post 103: “In all seriousness, all of your “predictions,” wrt me “finding a trainer,” & “being unable to board all my horses, after this “ & so many other ridiculous predilections have been wrong. I promise, the day I’m unable to hire the trainer I want or find myself “unable,” to board all my current horses & any new horses, I will send you a message in Morse code. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. But… you are right in that, my original plans to bring at least 4 of my horses to EU or stay in Fla past June have been temporarily halted due to COVID -19. Of course, the post about going overseas in the first place, was made over 2 months ago. The post re: being unable to go… was made last week. Maybe your “friend of a friend of a friend,” should sharpen his/her reading skills??”

If you are a trainer and have 4 or 6 empty stalls you might be willing to take your chances with the craycray

[Graymaresrule]

@eggbutt

But they probably wouldn’t be LK’s trainer of choice. Remember, she prefers FEI/Olympic trainers because she only rides with the best. Guess Dover is preoccupied currently.

yup

[OntheFence]

@eggbutt

She insists she can go anywhere she wants and train with anyone she wants. She basically said that in one of these threads, maybe this one.

From Post 103: “In all seriousness, all of your “predictions,” wrt me “finding a trainer,” & “being unable to board all my horses, after this “ & so many other ridiculous predilections have been wrong. I promise, the day I’m unable to hire the trainer I want or find myself “unable,” to board all my current horses & any new horses, I will send you a message in Morse code. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. But… you are right in that, my original plans to bring at least 4 of my horses to EU or stay in Fla past June have been temporarily halted due to COVID -19. Of course, the post about going overseas in the first place, was made over 2 months ago. The post re: being unable to go… was made last week. Maybe your “friend of a friend of a friend,” should sharpen his/her reading skills??”

Funny thing…her vet dumped her. [edit]

[Omgitsme]

@eggbutt

I’d hate to be her bestie if she (the bestie) releases them. Interesting she gave these illegal recordings to a SM friend rather than her attorney, family member, etc. Sounds like she is well aware they are illegal and condemning to her and her boyfriend.

I’m sure she has given a copy to her legal council. And I would assume LK would release them rather than the friend but who knows.

[eggbutt]

@OntheFence

Funny thing…her vet dumped her. [edit]

Wow!!! I heard she tried (or threatened) to sue a vet in NC.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Denali6298

Yes. In the state of NJ you are not allowed to record conversations unless one party of that conversation gives consent to do so. So if LK recorded all her conversations with MB that would be legal. However she has stated that she recorded conversations between MB and MH. If neither party gave consent it’s illegal.

https://recordinglaw.com/united-stat…ecording-laws/

Maybe they will press charges at a later time. People can allege the commission of a crime all day long. People are not going to be arrested until there is evidence.

This has been discussed before, and my understanding was that whether the place bugged had a reasonable expectation of privacy or not was also an issue.

It would seem that the recordings themselves are evidence of recordings being made, so not sure what additional evidence would be needed.

[YankeeDuchess]

@eggbutt

I’d hate to be her bestie if she (the bestie) releases them. Interesting she gave these illegal recordings to a SM friend rather than her attorney, family member, etc. Sounds like she is well aware they are illegal and condemning to her and her boyfriend.

Didn’t Bilinkas say in the court hearing that was the pretext for the last thread you started that he needed time to go over the “secret” recordings LK had made?

 Are you seriously saying that the police and lawyers for both sides are NOT in possession of them right now?

[Knights_Mom]

@YankeeDuchess

This has been discussed before, and my understanding was that whether the place bugged had a reasonable expectation of privacy or not was also an issue.

It would seem that the recordings themselves are evidence of recordings being made, so not sure what additional evidence would be needed.

There would be an expectation of privacy there.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Knights Mom

There would be an expectation of privacy there.

Where exactly? Living quarters in the barn, yes. Barn aisles in the barn - that’s for the lawyers to argue about.

[OntheFence]

@eggbutt

Wow!!! I heard she tried (or threatened) to sue a vet in NC.

Don’t know about NC. This was in NJ. The vet mentioned this right after the shooting.

[Knights_Mom]

@YankeeDuchess

Where exactly? Living quarters in the barn, yes. Barn aisles in the barn - that’s for the lawyers to argue about.

No. It’s not. I cited an example, that being during a traffic stop. But two people having a private conversation where they believed they were alone in a facility that was theirs, well that’s an expectation of privacy.

I know you don’t like that answer but that’s not relevant.

Planting recording devices and recording is a chitty thing to do. It is not complimentary to LK or her state of mind and it’s remarkable that you continue to defend everything and anything that is LK.

[eggbutt]

@YankeeDuchess

Didn’t Bilinkas say in the court hearing that was the pretext for the last thread you started that he needed time to go over the “secret” recordings LK had made?

Are you seriously saying that the police and lawyers for both sides are NOT in possession of them right now?

I don’t know what they are in possession of. How would I know what they have YD? You so enjoy twisting posts to suit your feeble accusations. It is your buddy that continues to discuss her recordings and in this thread appears to actually quote them. Throwing shade as always.

If the recordings are as conspiritory and damaging against MB and MH as LK says they are, why has MH not been charged IF they were legally obtained?

[Angela_Freda]

@Knights Mom

No. It’s not. I cited an example, that being during a traffic stop. But two people having a private conversation where they believed they were alone in a facility that was theirs, well that’s an expectation of privacy.

I know you don’t like that answer but that’s not relevant.

Planting recording devices and recording is a chitty thing to do. It is not complimentary to LK or her state of mind and it’s remarkable that you continue to defend everything and anything that is LK.

Go try to install cameras or audio recording devices in your boarding/training barn… I’d love to hear how that goes over for those suggesting it’s legal and /kosher.