Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Denali6298]

@YankeeDuchess

I thought her post saying she doubted the validity of my statement was perfectly clear. I frankly didn’t see how it could be “clarified”.

Doesn’t it suck to have people nit pick your word choice? You could have taken it upon yourself to ask or be more clear in your statements. Ask eggbutt, her and I went several rounds over this shooting. We can converse in a civil manner now because I don’t really care about previous threads. She clearly doesn’t either because we both settled down and had time to think. LK doesn’t need you to defend her.

Many on this thread will tell you I am not the nicest poster at times. I get aggressive, I am blunt, heck I get out of line. The thing is, is to not hold grudges and realize people may be close to situations. It’s like the SS threads. I have no use for lawyers who want to practice their arguing skills on those threads when I have a former friend serving concurrent sentences for pedophilia. That person is up for parole in 105 years. SS hit home with me. This case hits home for others. NO ONE in that situation wants to hear people practicing their legal arguments.

[YankeeDuchess]

@eggbutt

And, there’s this from Ed Bilinkas: Barisone’s defense is also seeking documents from SafeSport, an organization that investigates misconduct in Olympic sports. The prosecution has provided SafeSport with complaints filed against Barisone but nothing filed against Kanarek, Bilinkas said. He said Barisone contacted the organization multiple times to complain about Kanarek and so did other people.

I’m still waiting for the evidence a specific poster seems to have that USEF investigated a complaint against LK and found it was unfounded.

   Here is the post by Eggbutt. She demands evidence that ”USEF investigated a complaint against LK and found it was unfounded”. 

    It seems unlikely to me that the system is that bullying complaints against adults are sometimes handled by SafeSport and sometimes by USEF, but EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE, it was a very precise and documented statement concerning an actual investigation by USEF of LK that she demanded evidence on.

[eggbutt]

Dionne Warwick for your listening pleasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijhL9Y7skQs&feature=share

[Denali6298]

@YankeeDuchess

Here is the post by Eggbutt. She demands evidence that ”USEF investigated a complaint against LK and found it was unfounded”.

It seems unlikely to me that the system is that bullying complaints against adults are sometimes handled by SafeSport and sometimes by USEF, but EVEN IF THAT WERE TRUE, it was a very precise and documented statement concerning an actual investigation by USEF of LK that she demanded evidence on.

Yes well here is the problem. We all know what she is doing. She probably forgot and you won’t supply the evidence. We understand that. YOU take it personally because of some weird grudge. Eggbutt and I were not exactly nice to each other on the previous threads. Especially the first one. You would know this had you read them. However eggbutt and others that bumped heads with me are fine here because we are adults and realize emotions were running high. Further more, because she forgot she is going to battle semantics with you because that is your favorite game. If you don’t like that game don’t play it.

And really, I get hammered ALL THE TIME on this BB. I also think you have a lot to contribute. You just have to realize that we are all connected even if we don’t know it.

[Denali6298]

@eggbutt

Dionne Warwick for your listening pleasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijhL9Y7skQs&feature=share

You’re ridiculous and I love it!

[FitzE]

@tryintogethere

RG has black hair with some grey, often cut short, a round face and lots of ink. MB has brown hair with less grey than RG, not closely cut, a longer face and no ink. It is just funny to me, because they really look nothing alike.

Thanks for the explanation. They do look so similar in some of the pics it is interesting to know they look nothing alike in person.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Denali6298

Yes well here is the problem. We all know what she is doing. She probably forgot and you won’t supply the evidence. We understand that. YOU take it personally because of some weird grudge. Eggbutt and I were not exactly nice to each other on the previous threads. Especially the first one. You would know this had you read them. However eggbutt and others that bumped heads with me are fine here because we are adults and realize emotions were running high. Further more, because she forgot she is going to battle semantics with you because that is your favorite game. If you don’t like that game don’t play it.

And really, I get hammered ALL THE TIME on this BB. I also think you have a lot to contribute. You just have to realize that we are all connected even if we don’t know it.

 “... because she forgot she is going to battle semantics with [me]”? The statement she challenged as false was a very straight forward, simple statement of fact with no slippery, squishy words.  Not all that much different in structure from “the sky is blue”.  I frankly don’t see any room for semantic maneuvers.    

    I also don’t think I am playing “semantic games” in simply pointing out that the facts that I reported in the statement had already been documented in a news article linked earlier in the thread.

[eggbutt]

@NotGrandPrixYet

@eggbutt 🤣😂🤣😂, she’s going to flag your post for “calling people senile”. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. She QFP’d you in case you delete it.

:tickled_pink::tickled_pink::tickled_pink::tickled_pink::tickled_pink: That’s not how this works! That’s not how ANY of this works!

Oh yes, Isaac Hayes! Incredible, incredible version. If you have little time, fast forward to 5:21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFdR2LLM3bY

Is this better than recipes???

[eggbutt]

Some comic relief and good memories…

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/lav3uh/the-colbert-report-stephen-s-dressage-training-pt--1

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/f5vsty/the-colbert-report-stephen-s-dressage-training-pt--2

and tears…

”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹”‹

[iris2006]

@tryintogethere

This is taken directly from RC’s page where the comment regarding the cat’s was made.

LK
“Hypocrite.
I don’t see you saying a WORD about Mary Haskins refusing to feed her 5 cats or letting them live in their own feces until there is so much of it, it literally overflows into her children’s beds and all over the floor. I have pictures Incase you decide to tell lies again.”

So the cats were not being fed, but they were still crapping so much it was overflowing the litterbox. Huh?

[NotGrandPrixYet]

Were they barn cats? Is LK talking about the beds in the house or the makeshift beds in the lounge?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@YankeeDuchess

We know based on published news reports that USEF has in the past conducted an investigation on bullying by LK, and USEF reported that they were not issuing any sanctions against her. I have not seen any reported disposition of a bullying case issued by SafeSport. Are you aware of any?

Nobody has seen any such news report. You need to provide proof of these claims, or are you unwilling? If you are unwilling to prove your claim that there are news reports that USEF in the past has conducted an investigation on bullying by LK, and proof that USEF has Reported that they were not issuing any sanctions against her, then you are making this up and spreading false rumors. WHAT NEWS Reports? WHere has USEF reported they are NOT issuing sanctions against her? Or are you unable and unwilling to back up your assertion? This sounds like something Kanarek would say. Are you posting what she has told you to post? Quel surprise.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Were they barn cats? Is LK talking about the beds in the house or the makeshift beds in the lounge?

Nobody knows. She was making it up, so probably even she doesn’t know.

[Angela_Freda]

@Ambitious Kate

Nobody has seen any such news report. You need to provide proof of these claims, or are you unwilling? If you are unwilling to prove your claim that there are news reports that USEF in the past has conducted an investigation on bullying by LK, and proof that USEF has Reported that they were not issuing any sanctions against her, then you are making this up and spreading false rumors. WHAT NEWS Reports? WHere has USEF reported they are NOT issuing sanctions against her? Or are you unable and unwilling to back up your assertion? This sounds like something Kanarek would say. Are you posting what she has told you to post? Quel surprise.

YD doesn’t understand this about making claims… that the onus on proving it is on her when she makes them.

She thinks I made some claim, she mentioned it a thread ago. I forget what it was, frankly.
Unfortunately, her mis-remembering is pretty clearly evident in many posts she ends up backtracking in… so that’s what I assume happened in that instance.
But she doesn’t seem to understand that when g-you make a claim, the onus is on g-you to then prove it to be the case, when someone disagrees with g-you.
If it’s something worth claiming, it’s worth standing behind with proof/evidence.

[Angela_Freda]

@iris2006

So the cats were not being fed, but they were still crapping so much it was overflowing the litterbox. Huh?

If they are crapping to overflow a cat box… then it seems to me that they are also trapped in that space.
IME cats will start to refuse to use a full box, and wander out and poo outside, in a stall… anywhere, but that overfull box.

The neighbors cat who lives with us refuses to poo in the catbox in the house… she goes outside to do #2.
She’s an interesting lil thing.

[Graymaresrule]

@Denali6298

Because you argue semantics all the time. If you just asked for clarification instead of latching on to poor word choice no one would care.

I thought we were ignoring her. She likes to poke poke poke until she gets a reaction that gets the thread shut down.

[SonnysMom]

I have read all of these threads. I don’t remember proof that USEF put out anything about not issuing sanctions. Amazing how so many of us that have read all the threads don’t remember USEF putting out anything like this. Do they do these notice of non-sanctions for all reports they receive? Or was LK special???

[MorganSercu]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Were they barn cats? Is LK talking about the beds in the house or the makeshift beds in the lounge?

It doesn’t really matter because no one with a lick of sense puts cat litter boxes above beds. Above anything, really.

Plus barn cats of my acquaintance usually go in the arena, a stall, the great outdoors. If put in the feed room at night, people still put the pans on the ground. Ammonia may be less dense than breathing air, but used cat litter is heavy.

Ugh - can you imagine trying to take a full cat litter pan off of a platform above a bed and not spilling a grain?

If there are photos, I suspect LK snuck into a kids’ bedroom without permission (creepy!) and I bet she staged the photo herself. Again, who authorizes a BOARDER to enter their kids’ private space or bedroom? Particularly one with whom you are feuding? What if she set up cameras in the kids’ rooms, well, that is a whole new level of low. I wouldn’t put anything past her.

[tryintogethere]

@NotGrandPrixYet

Were they barn cats? Is LK talking about the beds in the house or the makeshift beds in the lounge?

House cats, not barn cats. No cats allowed in the clubroom.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Ambitious Kate

Nobody has seen any such news report. You need to provide proof of these claims, or are you unwilling? If you are unwilling to prove your claim that there are news reports that USEF in the past has conducted an investigation on bullying by LK, and proof that USEF has Reported that they were not issuing any sanctions against her, then you are making this up and spreading false rumors. WHAT NEWS Reports? WHere has USEF reported they are NOT issuing sanctions against her? Or are you unable and unwilling to back up your assertion? This sounds like something Kanarek would say. Are you posting what she has told you to post? Quel surprise.

I am able but unwilling to go back through 89 pages and find the link for you.

You are now on record as saying that “Nobody has seen such a news report.” Did you see the post by Denali that acknowledged the existence of the information, and suggested Eggbutt had forgotten? You just need to go back a couple pages for that one. You can get the link to the article if you go back through the whole thread and find the first exchange in which Eggbutt challenged the statement.