Barisone KROL this Friday, 5/26

[Sdel]

[Seeker1]

Maybe you should just go eat some hay and worry about yourself

[Graymaresrule]

Don’t try to teach a pig to sing.

[SoCoPony]

But you are so much fun… Really you don’t want to have a go round in the round pen some more. Ah come on.

[Seeker1]

I never do

[jaj]

Me too

[rothmpp]

If you’re not completely horrified by her behavior here snd elsewhere you are a large part of the problem.

So, no, I’m not surprised.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Your daughter and your husband did everything they could to destroy him and that’s been proven.

Where has that “been proven” Eggbutt?

Both sides, LK and MB, voluntarily dismissed their civil claims against the other.

Why are you determined to rehash this? (Rhetorical question, of course.)

[SoCoPony]

CH where have you been!
Busy getting a directive from the higher ups?

Ah I would like to say you been missed but…

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@erinmeri

@Seeker1

Evidently, according to the psychiatrists that werent paid by the defense attorneys, he is capable of doing this to others. Also according to others who have worked with with or for him, he has had many semi violent incidents that did not end in a attempted murder. This is way before my daughter came along.

Why wasn’t this testified to at trial to show a pattern of behavior? Nothing but scores of people testifying otherwise.

(ETA regarding your apparently libelous assertion that “he has had many semi violent incidents that did not end in a [sic] attempted murder. This was way before my daughter came along.”)

One of the protections afforded to a defendant in a criminal trial is that he is only being tried on the incident that was charged. Bringing up previous related behavior to establish a pattern of behavior is not permitted.

[hut-ho78]

It sounds like Gotay may have learned to google his delusional patient’s claims before jumping to conclusions. Good grief. MB was (and hopefully not still is) delusional about the dangerousness of the person he shot twice, not his own accomplishments, which are admirable.

Dr Hassan and Dr Simring prevailed on their diagnosis so MB would be acquitted by NGRI but the diagnosis they came up with is, according to articles found by using Google, the hardest one to treat.

Also according to Google, the old best treatment for delusional disorder was cognitive therapy, I.e. group therapy. The newer treatment reported to have some success sounds like the intensive therapy described by Drs Hassan and Simring.

It’s a lot on Judge Taylor’s shoulders to discern which way to go. I hope he is able to find his way to the best verdict to support MB’s mental health.

It was interesting that Dr Hassan described MB as a narcissist. It’s not the first time we’ve all heard that. IM used the same word years ago.

Judge Taylor was thanked by Bilinkas at the last hearing for allowing the hospital to move MB up the levels without his intervention. I don’t know how far that can go? Full release at the end? Up to conditional release? I didn’t see in the article if MB has moved up the levels to be ready for conditional release, just a lot of words and labels back and forth with the meaning unclear to me. State vs Fields 1978 emphasized the importance of working up the levels and I’ve wondered how fast that could go if staffing is now sufficient.

Well, I guess maybe we will learn more on Wednesday.

[erinmeri]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Where has that “been proven” Eggbutt?

Both sides, LK and MB, voluntarily dismissed their civil claims against the other.

Why are you determined to rehash this? (Rhetorical question, of course.)

To push back on the apparently false and libelous narrative that MB has a history of “semi violent” incidents? And because of the fact that a hearing that should be private according to the law and is instead public and is being attended by the Kanareks, who should ostensibly have this incident in their rearview mirror since it was THEY who instituted the dismissal of the civil trial? (Rhetorical questions, of course.)

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@Joanne

"Greystone psychiatrist Dr. Anthony Gotay said Barisone has “a sense of grandiosity and self-importance,”

Yeah, he kept asking for the therapy he was supposed to be receiving. How dare he? Who does he think he is?

Have you listened to his 911 calls before the shooting? Grandiosity and a feeling of self importance characterized them well. The 911 calls are one of the reasons I believe he was insane at the time he shot LK.

[hut-ho78]

@rothmpp

If you’re not completely horrified by her behavior here snd elsewhere you are a large part of the problem.

So, no, I’m not surprised.

I think she was horrified to see her daughter near death in a hospital room. I think she was horrified to get a phone call telling her a man they trusted shot her daughter twice.

[SoCoPony]

Well I was horrified to read the text between the plotting three on how it would be funny to blackmail MB and company, make them homeless and the need for a Big A** generator.

But I am just a horse of course

[Seeker1]

This is very true. We were not allowed to discuss his past behaviors. However one person did report him on this very forum way before my daughter came along

[SoCoPony]

That’s funny I didn’t hear that on the 911 calls that I listened to.

I heard a man being tortured by grifters trying to make his life and others a living h*ll

But.to each there own and I am just a horse of course.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

Actually a Krol hearing for NGRI for murder or attempted murder is required to be public, not private.

That’s wrong. The only exception is murder. Not attempted murder.

8.12.2020-Directive-21.20-Supercedes-Directive-9-96-Criminal-Procedures-for-Defendants-Found-Not-Guilty-by-Reason-of-Insanity-and-other-Committments-Resulting-from-Criminal-Proceedings.pdf

[Seeker1]

That may have happened after some people eard him discussing how/who was going to murder her

[SoCoPony]

Then neatly deleted it all

Poof just like that.