I got it to 7! Fun!
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I think generally this happens for two reasons. First, people think its a small detail they can’t get caught on so they just lie or embellish. Or, people are so arrogant they think they can outsmart the attorney and see it as a game. I’m guessing here it was a combination of both.
I’m sure the prosecutor told her to be completely truthful. But she isn’t actually his client - she wouldn’t have seen all the evidence or documents he has in making his case. And even when someone is being directly represented (in a civil case) many times they think there is no way they’ll get caught on some detail, or don’t realize how much has been turned up.
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How would she know either way unless she had tried to access the (locked) office?
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I guess I would have thought that the prosecutor would have gone over her court appearance in some detail ahead of time, considering that he had already invested so much time and energy into this trial. But as you say, she probably thought she knew better.
Or maybe he handed her off to an assistant for the prep work. That would be a little ironic. Lol.
Thanks for the explanation!
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I have found that the reason most addicts lie is because they truly want the lie to be the truth. They get away with manipulation and lies for so long that it becomes habit and behavior.
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So let’s back up.
The testimony was that ED couldn’t get ahold of LK on her phone. She was as apparently sitting outside. Watching something on a tablet, or something.
MB drove up, and LK went scrambling inside.
When she got inside, she found RG on the phone with ED. ED had called RG looking for LK, because LK wouldn’t answer her own phone. LK told RG at that point that MB had just shown up. RG the. Theoretically handed his phone to LK, and according to his and LKs testimony, RG proceeds to step outside to confront MB.
And… this is where it gets fuzzy.
According to the testimony, LK sort of followed RG outside. How close was she standing behind him? Well… that’s fuzzy. Their statements wander around when it comes to key details. But… it sounded to me like she stood back a ways. RG went up to MB and supposedly MB said something like, “I don’t want a war. Let’s work this out.” And RG supposedly said, “ Let’s just have all the lawyers talk.”
Then RG supposedly turned his back on MB and walked away… heading back to the apartment. And LK supposedly started walking down the stairs to confront MB, and
He just shot her.
Soooo… that’s what they testified to.
At what point in this situation, according to your recollection of testimony, did LK say into the phone to ED “Michael Barisone is here.”
I guess as she is walking down the stairs, and passing RG?
According to your theory, if there was a scuffle before then, ED would have heard it through the phone.
Well… there was supposedly a conversation between MB and RG before then. And ED didn’t hear any of that through the phone. So how do you explain that?
I think that there never was much in the way of a conversation between RG and MB. RG walked out there mad, and intended to get right up in MB’s face. LK was standing further back, on the phone with ED talking, and at some point she said “Michael Barisone is here.” At this exact point RG rushed at MB, not knowing MB had a gun. Or, RG threw a punch. Something. But that was a key point in time. And in response, MB, who was in a messed up mental state and sleep deprived, and not a regular gun user, reached for the gun he had brought with him for the purpose of self defense, and he shot twice… and missed. The two shots MB fired went past RG and hit LK… who was standing further back. And seconds after getting shot… LK stopped speaking on the phone to ED.
And RG continued with the attack he had already started on MB, as RG was unaware that LK had been shot.
And the rest is history. LK may or may not have wandered around doing any number of things, as she testified. Before she managed to dial 911. But RG continued beating the hell out of MB.
That’s what I think happened.
I think you are presuming there would have been yelling and loud noises right as the physical altercation between MB and RG first broke out. Noises that ED could have heard through the phone. I’ve actually watched a few brawls start, many years ago, during a few evenings out with college friends doing some drinking and bar hopping. Brawls can… and sometimes do… start in weird, slow motion, quiet ways. I had a friend of a friend years ago that used to go out drinking with my group, and he was a total problem when drinking. A mean drunk. Quiet and sullen. But a pretty big guy, who was like a teddy bear when sober. I watched him start more than one fight by quietly talking to somebody in a hostile way while standing at or near a bar… pretending to turn around and walk off… then spinning at the last minute and viciously sucker punching the other guy. It was a nasty, gutter fighting, tactic.
I think something similar might have happened in this situation with RG and MB. And LK got shot accidentally.
With that said… MB picking up that gun and bringing it to the farmhouse? Totally reckless. And dangerous. Nobody in a mental state like he was should be handling firearms. And anyone carrying concealed should have appropriate training, all applicable licenses, and the gun should be legally in their posession. So I don’t know. I guess he might be NGI on the weapons charge… but… I think it’s messy. And a verdict of agg assault might actually fit the circumstances I think most PROBABLY took place at the farmhouse that day. And be just. I don’t know.
But I am convinced you are underestimating the role RG played initiating the actual violence that day. I do not believe MB “lured” anyone into a violent confrontation. I do find the fact that both RG and LK used that particular word QUITE telling. Projection…
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There is a reporter on the screen now.
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Remember, it was all he could do to get them back to testify!!
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what do you think 
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I thought the snowflakes were ice flakes saying go on by like in Frozen. I learn so much on this forum. 
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I’m sure he did, and went over anticipated areas of cross examination. But you can’t predict every area the defense could want to delve into. And she may have admitted during prep that she could access the office, and then in reaction to the tone of cross just started lying.
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Would you mind linking to where you are watching? Mine cut out and I’m having trouble finding the other link.
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Thank you!
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isn’t that what there are? “Let It Go”/
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All I get is a buffering thing in the center. She’s not moving.
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Me too. I’ve seen that car park like 5 times.
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I 100% agree with this analysis. 100%.
I thought so but now I think they mean snowflakes like trump called liberals.
I’m trying to figure out if that is outside the courthouse in NJ. It looks like it could be.
But right after that car parks…it starts trying to reload.
That’s what “snowflake” means pretty much everywhere else besides these boards - a derisive term for people who are “offended” at everything, typically aimed at liberals.
I honestly was really confused when it kept popping up here and didn’t fit the context, LOL
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