Barisone- New Thread

I have to say I still can’t believe the prosecutor raised that idea in his closing argument. Was that just in case the jury did not already have enough doubt about the competence of the police who were processing the crime scene? Seriously??

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By “using it unlawfully,” it doesn’t necessarily follow that he discharged the firearm. It could mean that he brandished it. That too would be unlawful. I guess the jury will decide these questions. I wouldn’t want to be on that jury. It’s a tough case.

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Oh Boy. I found the “Bob Abooey” comment from the weekend, when “Bob” decided to cyberstalk poor Joey in the comments section of one of the L&C videos from the trial, uploaded to YouTube.

Bob replied to multiple Joey comments… but this particular reply caught my eye. It seems like “Bob” knows more than a little bit about the LK and Joey backstory, and about Joey’s current life and hobbies.

I will copy and paste the 3 part exchange, meaning the 1st two comments, and “Bob’s” final reply. So people can understand the context of “Bob’s” comment.

This was on the Day 3 video - specifically the one of the Direct Exam of Lauren Kanarek.

Dirty Harry Callahan • 11d ago
Barisone was attacked and beaten by
Godwin and Kanarek, severely, and
seemingly used his pistol to defend
himself as the absolute last resort.

There was no reason for him to take the
beating first and then produce his
firearm if he intended to kill either
Godwin or Kanarek ahead of time, he
could have just opened fire before they
had a chance to do anything pre-
beating.

Kanarek and Godwin clearly went out of
their way to interfere with and harass
Barisone, both on social media and in
their everyday lives. They made a
concerted effort, together, to drive
Barisone crazy and push him over the
edge

Barisone seems like a broken man, that
body language isn’t an act. That is
genuine trauma manifesting itself
openly in an almost involuntary manner.

Not Guilty.
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Joey Stagaard, Trichologist • 8d ago
You have no idea what a villain this
girl Lauren Kanarek is
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Bob Abooey • 2d ago
@Joey Stagaard, Trichologist Just
because she took your “love
interest” from you? How’s that
“singing” career of yours doing with
those aging band members?

@Sticky_Situation
@eggbutt
@hntrjmpr

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Most likely during a struggle for control of the gun, probably because “Ms. Badass” became enraged that she was being told to leave - i.e., move off the property along with her horses, her bad dog, and her freeloading boyfriend. And since rejection doesn’t sit very well with her, she went at MB and started beating the c*** out of him. At which point she (and/or RG) discovered MB had a gun in his pocket, they all struggled for control of it and it discharged. I’m guessing they were both on the ground at that point, both prone and facing each other, which would certainly explain the location of the entrance wounds and trajectory through her body and exit wounds through her back.

[Edited to add that grappling for a gun could also explain the alleged injury to LK’s hand, although I can’t recall if that was ever brought up during the testimony.]

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I don’t think the jury will let him off with an outright not guilty. I feel they will use the lesser charges. Had those not been given, I would be on the fence.

A mainly male jury, having to hear about an overly dramatic woman going nutzo on social media… Maybe they will give into the insanity, but I think that’s a hard bargain legally speaking.

I DO believe that he likely suffered a psychotic break of some point. I DO feel that he likely had delusions and interpreted all that crap behaviour as more significant. However, I have also worked closely with people actually suffering from schizophrenia in a clinical setting. I have a more relevant background. I was at home listening to the expert testimony.

I do not feel the average Joe Juror is as comfortable with this. AND I don’t know if MY definitions fit the insanity by law definitions.

I think the jury will want there to be some sort of consequence, and after the mess with the evidence, they will opt for the lesser charges as a compromise.

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Two and a half years in county jail are consequences

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Which Taylor made clear was not to be considered by the jury.

It really took me some time to get my jaw off the floor after the prosecutor ran down this line of thought. So, so, so many things wrong here. :roll_eyes:

Also, once again, thanks for the excellent summary!

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If he’s found guilty, he will probably get credit for the time he’s been in jail.

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That is some pretty specific information from some random commenter on YouTube. GJ had been posting the text conversation between herself and Lauren in various comments on the trial videos, but it doesn’t make sense for a random to needle her about that.

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And if I were on the jury I would be wondering what proof there was that he had the intent or purpose to use it unlawfully? You can’t separate out that part. And all that goes back to whether or not the defense proved the insanity.

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The judge made it clear to the jury that a not guilty by insanity meant there would be another set of hearings to determine what psychiatric holding he might wind up with. That might give them an out as far as not being able to reconcile the evidence for the charges with “wanting him to do time”……

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I wouldn’t want to be on the jury either! On that we can agree!

Verdict watch for the trial here.

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Exactly. Especially since it is 6 days after Joey made that comment.

Sure looks like “Bob” is combing through L&C videos trying to cyberstalk and harass Joey.

In all fairness… I will admit I decided to comb through videos to see what “Bob” was saying. Because “Bob”, IMO, is one of those people, that frankly, defy all societal norms. And I wanted to see if “Bob” was seriously on YouTube pulling “Bob’s” typical stunts.

And… it sure seems that way. Doesn’t it?

Pretty.Darn.Crazy.

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Yes!

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What “other evidence”? I’ll wait for your reply.

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It’s unboblievable :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Nope. There are at least a hlf-dozen or so.

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I’m only seeing the state seal on the wall behind the judge’s chair. Is that all there is until the jury gives a verdict? No reporters discussing the case or anything?