Its not like he repeatedly thought this happened four years ago 
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I think its because people can make their notes biased, then they show another juror “hey look I wrote this in my notes” and it could be totally incorrect.
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And I would need my notes. I have a system and my own version of shorthand. I’d be list without it.
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Any thoughts on why no notes? Is it in case someone is an inaccurate note taker or makes a mistake?
They want the jury to rely on evidence, not each others’ notes of evidence?
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So
Simring saw MB in 2020
Mustachio saw MB early 2021
Hasson saw MB late 2021?
UGH, I would never be able to be a juror without taking notes. Who can remember all those dates!!!
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When all else fails, toss out a fan girl accusation.
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He’s acting like it’s the law they can’t notes. Here is NJ law
© Juror Note-Taking. Prior to opening statements, the attorneys or any party
may request that the jury be permitted to take notes during the trial or portion thereof,
including opening and closing statements. If the court determines to permit note-taking
after all parties have had an opportunity to be heard, it shall provide the jurors with
notetaking materials and shall take such steps as will ensure the security and
confidentiality of each juror’s notes.
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Almost. Simring saw MB for the first time in September of 2019… right after the shooting.
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I thought Simring saw him just about a month after the shooting?
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Two points re: the bullet through the window:
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MB seems to have recall of the days leading up to the incident. Wouldn’t he have told his lawyer if there was a bullet hole in the house before the shooting? If the defense had any inkling that it might have predated the incident, I’m sure they would have asked someone who had been to the house recently, like RC (who went in the house the day before IIRC?), the building inspectors, or whoever posted the vacate notice on the door.
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At a certain point, doubts do become unreasonable (facts need not be proven to a certainty) and Occam’s Razor should be applied. What is more reasonable: that during a confirmed shooting a bullet went through the window, or that someone else fired a different gun through the window some other day in a totally unrelated event that somehow no one noticed or thought to mention? I realize this doesn’t resolve whether the gun was fired during a struggle or at a specific person, but I think the idea of it predating the 8/7 incident is really a stretch and goes beyond the requirements of reasonable doubt. The standard is not “beyond any doubt.”
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We were allowed to take notes. Same as someone earlier stated we had our numbers on our notebooks and they were collected when we left the courtroom. They were given back to us during deliberations. They did come into play with our verdict, as even with our short 4 day trial with 5 witnesses we had to refer to notes as there was so much to remember or keep straight.
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Because it could unduly influence some jurors to think he must be guilty because he’s in jail and some jurors to believe he’s already done his time, let him go…not guilty.
That’s also why they don’t bring the defendant to court in the jail jumper, or let them see them in cuffs.
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Simring saw him on 09/06 2019 and then in April 2020.
The other two didn’t see him until 2021. And I didn’t write down the dates, lol.
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Fair point, and agreed.
However… I think it is fair to have a REASONABLE doubt that IF a third shot was fired on 08/07 during the confrontation, that shot was in fact aimed at RG. Maybe he shot wide, wildly, but actually was aiming at LK when he took that third shot. Maybe a lot of things. Maybe there was a scuffle. Who knows. I think there is a lot of room for REASONABLE doubt when it comes to that third shot on that day, and it being aimed at RG. If that third shot even happened.
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A way around that would be to give each juror the same notes/transcripts/timeline. Then they all have the same info in front of them. Expecting them to remember every detail does not help the prosecution OR the defense.
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Like the lawyers were involved negotiating with both sides? That’s what you wish could have been allowed to continue for a day or two?
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Someone posted above, it takes a long, long time to produce a transcript and have it verified it for accuracy. Just think how long it would take just to proofread the transcript from a trial with this much testimony. It’s arduous.
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They can only respond with exactly what was testified to in the jurors presence.
