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[Fat_Dinah]

The psych witnesses offer subjective analysis on an imperfect science and they disagree.
For the weapons charge, I think that one will be guilty. The attempted murder? I don’t know what the 12 jurors will do, I don’t know how I would vote.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@SillyHorse

@CurrentlyHorseless

On the renovations, MB was the property owner and principal who decided to skip getting permits,

It has been pointed out several times that it is the contractor, not the property owner, who is responsible for getting permits.

The homeowner is the principal, and may pay a licensed contractor as his agent to pull the permits. But the contractor would only be obtaining the permits on the principal’s authority.

The decision to obtain permits, or not, is the responsibility of the principal (the homeowner).

[FitzE]

@RND

MB’s defense has not once shown even the slightest little bit of evidence that MB is not the sole individual who pulled a trigger that day.

That’s not their job. It’s also no one’s job to prove a negative. It’s the job of the prosecution to show he did.

A struggle for the gun in which it is discharged is an easy, reasonable alternative without having to resort the meaningless unicorn nonsense.

[RND]

@eggbutt

By the way, you actually proposed a reasonable doubt scenario in your post! You folks are so frigging eager to put man away for a long, long time with nothing to go on. I really do worry about our justice system with folks like you making decisions. No questions. Just black and white.

eggbutt you have already admitted to being biased against LK for personal reasons, and you clearly have a huge amount of rage against her for someone who I believe lied for more than two years after this happened that you had no relationship with anyone in this case. Ever since LK outed you, you have become even more rabid against her. What is your end game here? Your rage regarding this case really seems unhealthy. Is LK a real threat to you or your family at this point, because if so, I can see why you are reacting the way you are and I hope you can resolve the problems to eliminate the threat and move on with your life.

[RND]

@MHM

Aww, that’s so sweet. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you very much.

Actually, I was trying to show you how ridiculous you are every time you do this but I’m not surprised it went over your head.

[Knights_Mom]

@RND

@eggbutt

By the way, you actually proposed a reasonable doubt scenario in your post! You folks are so frigging eager to put man away for a long, long time with nothing to go on. I really do worry about our justice system with folks like you making decisions. No questions. Just black and white.

eggbutt you have already admitted to being biased against LK for personal reasons, and you clearly have a huge amount of rage against her for someone who I believe lied for more than two years after this happened that you had no relationship with anyone in this case. Ever since LK outed you, you have become even more rabid against her. What is your end game here? Your rage regarding this case really seems unhealthy. Is LK a real threat to you or your family at this point, because if so, I can see why you are reacting the way you are and I hope you can resolve the problems to eliminate the threat and move on with your life.

Typical.

When the victim fights back, blame the victim. Yeah it’s the victim who is being irrational. It’s the victim who is being mean. This is the same type of gaslighting that LK did to MB.

How very Laurenesque.

Too bad it no longer works.

[MHM]

@caffeinated

And it’s absolutely crazy that the police didn’t collect any basic forensic evidence in this case, that might have put to rest some doubt. And yes, I agree, there is certainly some doubt here.

You realize you just did the same thing again, right?

There is absolutely doubt there, based on the lack of conclusive forensic evidence combined with the unreliability of the two witnesses.

Now it’s up to the jury decide whether or not it is a reasonable doubt.

[hut-ho78]

@smoofox

@hut-ho78

She had several people saying they would come get her and her horses and to please be careful.

“Please be careful” - because they meant well but believed all her admitted lies on SM and endless drama queen antics. Be that as it may, she even had a destination arranged to haul to - everything was set up and easy to do. There was a viable solution right at hand. But noooooo - she refused, made excuses, lied some more… and deliberately chose to stay in what she well knew was a volatile situation. But what better way to finish the bastard, right? Keep on provoking and poking… until events reached the tragic point of no return.

I see some posters lamenting about the poor choices MB made - while failing to acknowledge the bad decisions that LK and RG made… over and over again.

I haven’t seen anyone as you describe. This situation was avoidable by either party. Neither would disengage and they both lost. All MB had to do to disengage was be professional and evict them formally.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@smoofox

@hut-ho78

She had several people saying they would come get her and her horses and to please be careful.

“Please be careful” - because they meant well but believed all her admitted lies on SM and endless drama queen antics. Be that as it may, she even had a destination arranged to haul to - everything was set up and easy to do. There was a viable solution right at hand. But noooooo - she refused, made excuses, lied some more… and deliberately chose to stay in what she well knew was a volatile situation. But what better way to finish the bastard, right? Keep on provoking and poking… until events reached the tragic point of no return.

I see some posters lamenting about the poor choices MB made - while failing to acknowledge the bad decisions that LK and RG made… over and over again.

I haven’t seen anyone as you describe. This situation was avoidable by either party. Neither would disengage and they both lost. All MB had to do to disengage was be professional and evict them formally.

As per testimony she still was refusing to go even after a deal had been worked up.

So your claim is nothing but imagination. She had no intention of leaving.

[RND]

@Knights_Mom

Magical stories? From the poster in full lock step with the LK who testified under oath that she lies all the time on social media?!

That’s hilarious!!

The only magical story here is that LKs fan base believe the frequency of posting things to support her train wreck of lies, will work.

We have seen LK in all her glory for what she is and what she wants.

And there simply is no defending it. EVER.

On the bright side, now EVERYONE in the horse world knows.

EVERYONE.

[Edit] I have previously posted here multiple times acknowledging that LK is a liar; you really need to do a little fact checking before you make accusations here. And you also need to pay attention to the trial more; the judge did in fact tell Bilinkas that he was not allowed to make up stories with no evidence to back them up.

[eggbutt]

@RND

Is LK a real threat to you or your family at this point, because if so, I can see why you are reacting the way you are and I hope you can resolve the problems to eliminate the threat and move on with your life.

Interesting choice of words.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@FitzE

@RND

MB’s defense has not once shown even the slightest little bit of evidence that MB is not the sole individual who pulled a trigger that day.

That’s not their job. It’s also no one’s job to prove a negative. It’s the job of the prosecution to show he did.

A struggle for the gun in which it is discharged is an easy, reasonable alternative without having to resort the meaningless unicorn nonsense.

It’s the job of the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MB shot them. It’s the job of the defense to negate the prosecutions case if they want a straight “not guilty”. The defense does not need to “prove a negative” to negate the prosecution’s case, and offering a plausible alternative theory such as the gun going off in a struggle, would be one such alternative. But the defense did not establish that as an alternative theory, and doing so is complicated by the fact that it’s clear that he armed himself and went to their location.

[RND]

@FitzE

That’s not their job.

They pled self defense and insanity, which is admitting that MB shot LK.

[Knights_Mom]

@RND

@Knights_Mom

Magical stories? From the poster in full lock step with the LK who testified under oath that she lies all the time on social media?!

That’s hilarious!!

The only magical story here is that LKs fan base believe the frequency of posting things to support her train wreck of lies, will work.

We have seen LK in all her glory for what she is and what she wants.

And there simply is no defending it. EVER.

On the bright side, now EVERYONE in the horse world knows.

EVERYONE.

Why do you continually make an ass of yourself? I have previously posted here multiple times acknowledging that LK is a liar; you really need to do a little fact checking before you make accusations here. And you also need to pay attention to the trial more; the judge did in fact tell Bilinkas that he was not allowed to make up stories with no evidence to back them up.

See now you’re just projecting.

Have fun!

This is a forum where we have lots of experience with LK.

Not to shock you or anything, this isn’t a courtroom.

Just so you know.

[FitzE]

After all the mockery you’ve spewed my way? Nah, pass on giving you an assist here. You’ve been plenty nasty all on your own. No one has called you stupid or a cockroach. You’ve got to own that stuff all by your lonesome. No one makes you call them a cockroach - that’s all you.

[Knights_Mom]

@RND

@FitzE

That’s not their job.

They pled self defense and insanity, which is admitting that MB shot LK.

Again, they had no choice due to his not remembering.

[Angela_Freda]

@Rowdy

There were so many ways he could have gone after her legally. He could have reported her for illegally recording conversations. Why didn’t he?

You haven’t paid any attention have you? None. Wow.

[RND]

@eggbutt

Interesting choice of words.

you would glom onto that to deflect from the reality of that post

[caffeinated]

@MHM

You realize you just did the same thing again, right?

There is absolutely doubt there, based on the lack of conclusive forensic evidence combined with the unreliability of the two witnesses.

I never said there wasn’t any doubt. I’m just pointing out that there’s not “no evidence” as is repeatedly being asserted. Testimony, witness statements, and ear witness are evidence.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

It’s a full blown legal beagle dogfight on this thread.

Sheesh.

If @rowdy can settle down (see what I did there ) and have a productive and cordial exchange with me, the rest of y’all have got to find a way to rein it in a little .