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So if the judge did not advise them not to discuss their testimony, that would not actually be against the rules by the court’s standards, I would think.

I did notice that the judge definitely said that to some people and not others as they left the witness stand, so I don’t know if that means he forgot to say it to everyone, or if it varied based on some other factor. Maybe if they were also on the potential witness list for the following week?

It certainly does not change the fact that any rational person would choose not to do such a thing, but again….

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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…. It’s Probably not a cow.

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She maintains her license, but no longer practices. She was a DA in LA.

Angry macaroons was Paul Hollywood’s season 5 technical challenge in the Great British Bake Off. Biscuit week IIRC.

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I was thinking the exact same thing.

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Correct.

He does not remember what happened, so he could not testify to contradict the extremely inconsistent and conflicting testimony from the other two parties who were there.

Edited to add: The same two parties who had been plotting to “ruin his life” and “finish the bastard,” according to their text messages that were produced as evidence in the trial.

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Interesting, thanks.

First: Ukraine and this? Apples/oranges.

Second: No one was attacking you. @KurPlexed was attempting to get you to understand the situation MB was in.

Please don’t take everything SO personally.

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Let’s talk about this briefly.

It’s clear MB was SERIOUSLY beaten by RG.

Let’s review who and what RG is.

RG is someone who definitely didn’t last in the USMC. I still wonder what the terms of his discharge were (yup… that’s speculation… but I still wonder).

RG has had a serious drug problem for YEARS.

RG does not have a real job. He relies on his girlfriend’s father for his living expenses.

RG apparently reached some agreement during the spring and summer of 2019, that he would do work for MB in exchange for board for extra horses of LK. But Mike McGrain testified that he actually did 70-80% of the tiling work. That RG was often a no show.

RG testified that he “slipped” a “few times” during the summer of 2019, and used drugs again.

Sooo… let’s take all that information, which was on the record in this trial, and say that RG is a person who does not have a great deal in the way of intestinal fortitude, or follow through. He’s a 1st class ‘no load.’

Yet on the day of the shooting… he magically transformed into a brave hero. A strong, brave, decisive hero. Who saw LK get shot, and then jumped into action. He ran towards danger, and faced down an armed man, a man who was MUCH larger, and more athletic than him. RG competently and swiftly dominated this much larger man in a VERY physical struggle, in a high stress stress situation, when the larger man was armed. Thus saving LK from more bullets, etc.

How remarkable that this life long, shiftless dirtbag, suddenly transformed into a brave hero, right when it counted.

Anyways…. Count me skeptical. VERY VERY skeptical. MB was beaten to a pulp. That’s demonstrably true. I don’t think RG has the guts or strength of character to rush at an active shooter. I think the beating started BEFORE MB fired that gun. And RG took MB by surprise. And that’s how he dominated him. And at some point during that struggle and beating, MB did indeed fire that gun. Why and how LK got hit? I don’t know. I don’t know that it wasn’t intentional on MBs part. I don’t know that MB did whatever was required by law to qualify for self defense in NJ, in a situation where he drove up to a house armed.

But I am certain something about the story RG and LK has told in court is complete and utter BULL. And based on the evidence I heard, my BULL detector goes off with respect to RG doing anything brave, and indicative of any measure of true character, such as making a split second decision to rush at an armed shooter, defend LK, etc etc.

Anyways… just thought I’d insert this particular comment here, in response to the detailing of the injuries suffered by MB when he was beaten.

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Did anyone else notice that when the ear witness testified, he was trying to use the zebra analogy? But he did not even seem to be able to get that right.

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Lauren and Nick Peronace bear a striking resemblance to each other on social media.
No, no, it’s not me…it’s someone else who supports me!

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You know, some drugs put people into a hyper aggressive state. I wonder if some of that was going on….

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And they had to do an open reduction to reset the dislocation. I don’t remember if they had to place hardware such as pins or plates.

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VERY VERY good point.

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Especially since in at least one account, it sounded like he ran into the laundry room to hide while his girlfriend was out there with what they claimed was someone trying to kill her. I believe the word “flee” came up multiple times in the course of the trial regarding his actions there.

The only thing I will add regarding his Marine service is that he did say on the witness stand that he received hand-to-hand combat training while he was in the military.

And he also did not hesitate to say that he used a choke hold, and rendered MB unconscious during the struggle. Does that mean they stopped beating MB once he was passed out? Or did they only stop beating him when the first police officer arrived on the scene? :thinking:

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I just want to add there are many other posters who have other theories also, not just the two you listed. I’m sure you know that I just wanted it to be clear we don’t all fit into one of those.

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I’ve wondered this myself. RG was very quick to state, more than once, that “he was trying to get up!” OK. So if he was unconscious, how was he trying to get up? Or was that RG trying to justify why he was still sitting on top of MB pounding away at him? (Just my speculation)

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Excellent point.

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Let’s all remember……what happened to MB, according to LK/RG, was only supposed to have taken a minute or two, between when LK called 911 at 2:13 and when they showed up at 2:15.

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Nazis, really. Maybe strive for balance there, walk trotter.

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