Barisone News

[Angela_Freda]

@CanteringCarrot

Recordings would be incredibly helpful to the victim and prosecution I would think. Especially if the events transpired as the victim claims they did.

Even dash cam or camera on the LEO (plural) who responded

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The kerfuffle in this thread is that the cop’s testimony made reference to RG saying something about having “the situation on tape”. It’s not clear, without the transcript, whether “the situation” or “the whole matter” is a reference to the shooting or to the events in the week leading up to the shooting, or whether the “tapes” refer to video recordings at the house or audio recordings from the barn. Actually, it would probably not be clear even with a transcript.

Good point.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Angela_Freda

@CanteringCarrot

Recordings would be incredibly helpful to the victim and prosecution I would think. Especially if the events transpired as the victim claims they did.

Even dash cam or camera on the LEO (plural) who responded

Oh yeah, most LEO’s wear body cams nowadays I think. Wouldn’t be of the shooting, but the aftermath. Would also show how the scene was handled.

I don’t expect every LEO to be perfect, they’re human. Situations like this are crazy, but I think you’d default to your training and procedures. I don’t know.

[Angela_Freda]

I think if you don’t do this much or get retrained often, your default might fall well below what training would suggest you do.

[trubandloki]

@CanteringCarrot

Situations like this are crazy, but I think you’d default to your training and procedures.

From what I understand, that is the whole point of all their training. So when things become crazy they just do, as they trained hard to do, and do not have to think hard about what to do next.

[BrendaJane]

whenever I see this jump to a foregone conclusion as to who the aggressor and the victims are I think about Silence of the Lambs, when Hannibal escapes by impersonating a maimed guard.

This is how people (cops) get killed.
Letting people run around a crime scene, this is how cops get killed.
(more a reply to @CanteringCarrot though)

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m guessing that some of the speculation is that there was a second gun, and that RG stashed it in the house and later removed it. However, if the police performed forensic tests on all the bullets recovered and determined that they were all fired from the pink Luger, that speculation seems moot.

Pure speculation:

A second gun in the altercation would provide a compelling reason to use the pink gun for self defense. Thus not moot at all.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

One thing popped out already to me - see photo.

The thing that jumped out at me was that according to those guidelines, the policeman should have treated MB and RG the same way, whether he thought they were suspects or witnesses.

[3PonyFarm]

Didn’t these officers receive public praise by the department sometime after the incident.

[seahorse]

@Knight’s Mom, did you really just call the gun shot victim “someone who is emotionally invested”. That is so so so inappropriate.

She is the victim, plain and simple, not someone who is just emotionally invested.

I get it, you don’t like her or her behavior, but it is “never ok to shoot someone” no matter how annoying they are to you.

@Moderator_1 if people can’t discuss the case appropriately, please shut it down.

[ohnoO]

I did know that the cop hadn’t been told about the contents of the 911 call.

See, there’s an argument in favor of rehashing this.

[CanteringCarrot]

I mean, their response did save LK’s life since I’m assuming it was a time sensitive matter re getting her the medical help she needed.

[CanteringCarrot]

@seahorse

@Knight’s Mom, did you really just call the gun shot victim “someone who is emotionally invested”. That is so so so inappropriate.

She is the victim, plain and simple, not someone who is just emotionally invested.

I get it, you don’t like her or her behavior, but it is “never ok to shoot someone” no matter how annoying they are to you.

@Moderator_1 if people can’t discuss the case appropriately, please shut it down.

To be fair, one can be a victim and emotionally invested. As a victim, the emotionally invested is sort of a given though. How can a victim not be?

And I’m sure the moderators are capable of doing their job as they have in the past

[trubandloki]

@seahorse

I get it, you don’t like her or her behavior, but it is “never ok to shoot someone” no matter how annoying they are to you.

There it is. The reason why we had to resort to NODTBS.
Not one person here think that LK deserves to be shot. That was not the right response. Period.
We have said that so many times I thought everyone realized that.

[3PonyFarm]

Another possible issue with going into the house with the dog is if it was a window in the door that was shot at. If it was a regular window it probably wouldn’t matter but if it was the door and that is the one he entered with the dog it would alter the scene for the crime scene techs.

[seahorse]

@Knights_Mom you are correct, you have the right to discuss the case. However, you do not have the right to harass the victim to the point that she feels the need to defend herself on a public forum. Especially since you all know who she is and no one knows who you are.
@Moderator_1 Please make this stop. The COTH is better than this.

[3PonyFarm]

Yes that is true and hopefully the medical responders received the same public praise.

[trubandloki]

@seahorse

@Knights_Mom you are correct, you have the right to discuss the case. However, you do not have the right to harass the victim to the point that she feels the need to defend herself on a public forum. Especially since you all know who she is and no one knows who you are.
@Moderator_1 Please make this stop. The COTH is better than this.

@seahorse, you do realize that @Knights_Mom has not posted since your first plea to the moderators to have a thread run your way, right?

Edit to add - And the posts by @Knights_Mom that you are screaming to the moderation to do something about were before the moderator posted. Are you thinking that Mod 1 did not know how to do their job the first time?

[CanteringCarrot]

Anddd here we go…

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

you do realize that @Knights_Mom has not posted since your first plea to the moderators to have a thread run your way, right?

And have since ruled that we can continue.