Which their own witness contradicted with his testimony.
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Particularly since this cop was the Police Training Officer!
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He’s not claiming self defense; he is claiming insanity. Based on how he looked at the defense table, he’s got a strong case.
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Is it weird that what would normally be an insult actually sounds like a positive this one time? 
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I should add that these diagrams are atypical in that I would expect them to indicate the position of the victims including the orientation of their positioning when found, specifically for this purpose. The crime scene tech, if he arrived after all parties were removed, would not be able to state definitively where people were. Therefore, their “extensive pictures and diagrams” document very little except the location of evidence and not the parties involved. The crime scene diagram does not even document the recovery location of the gun.
People seem to want me to characterize my comments in favor of one party or the other; that is not what my comments are intended to do.
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I remember what the experts commenting about the shirt said. The shirt showed the entrance holes in front and exit holes in back. They said shooting at front is consistent with self defense rather than if evidence showed shooting at a person’s back would show just wanting to kill them.
Who knows what tomorrow’s evidence shows, they may totally change their mind.
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According to his attorney, he is claiming both self defense and insanity.
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I appreciate your contributions to what you know of the law and your observations bring up good points. Thank you.
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To me it was all useless filler.
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Ok. I’ve been on the sidelines regarding this case, but reading some of what has been posted today I have a couple of questions.
Who was the guy on his cell phone that the LEO passed on the driveway when he approached the scene?
What of the arm/ wrist/ hand injury that incapacitated RG? Not mentioned in anything I scanned today, but I may have missed it.
I apologize to those who have been diligent in their review of this information. I’m a mere dilettante.
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I’m not doubting that this is what they said, but think about it for a few seconds. Does that claim really make any sense?
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Interestingly it does show the location of where the casings were found……
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Yes on the jury I was on the judge did object/intervene often with regards to what was admissible etc… It made me question the competence of the prosecution and defense when that happened and they had not objected, but frankly, a lot of what they did or did not do made me question them,
My trial was similar in that it involved a near-fatal shooting, but not similar in that it was more cut and dry and motive was clear.
All said, I was able to block that out when it came time to deliberate. Not sure how the other “12 angry men” felt about it…our jury room was a guano show and we vacillated between a hung jury and (ultimately) a conviction. The hung jury moments were largely because of people reading into things where the evidence or testimony did not support what the belief held. I was not foreman but took over that role because of the weakness of the foreman and the nuttiness of what was being said. I literally demanded we be read back testimony or be re-presented evidence to stop the strange “theories”. We were allowed to review everything but the gun.
Ultimately the “conspiracy theories” were shot down after I did that and we reviewed testimony and evidence (sans gun). But I was astonished that so many on my jury were so biased that they had created their own stories.
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And the magazine, which the responding offer admitted to disposing of - but not the gun, which was clearly recovered since it was shown.
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These are good points that I hadn’t noticed when I was watching. I wonder how many, if any, crime scenes like this those officers have processed in their careers. I would bet it’s not very many at all.
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That would be a hard trial to watch. Mine was a boring civil case. I was one of the ones challenged by the attorneys in the criminal case. It looked more interesting.
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Can anyone share the link to the law and crime video that has the analysts commenting?
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Thank you for all your input and expertise.
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Yes. If an entrance wound is on the victim’s back, there is no possible way for that to happen unless the victim was facing away from the shooter or the bullet somehow ricocheted off a surface directly behind the victim and yet also missed the shooter - much less likely.
It’s widely accepted that if you shoot a person whose back is to you, you are shooting a fleeing individual. Now, there’s nuance to that of course, but generally, if you shoot someone in the back, you have a longer hill to climb in proving that person was not moving away from you at the time you shot them.
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I cried when we convicted. They polled us and I almost threw up. Do I believe that we acted fairly? Yes. That said, this was a young black man whose cards were stacked against him and we were not allowed to consider that or sentencing. He got 23 years. I still feel awful. Even though I know we were right.
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