Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[punchy]

It was cruel of you to post that screen shot.

[Angela_Freda]

@soloudinhere

The crime scene diagram does not even document the recovery location of the gun.

That’s interesting.

[3PonyFarm]

I watched it on the Law & Crime Network channel, I think it was live. If I can find it I will share the link.

[RND]

@soloudinhere

Yes. If an entrance wound is on the victim’s back, there is no possible way for that to happen unless the victim was facing away from the shooter or the bullet somehow ricocheted off a surface directly behind the victim and yet also missed the shooter - much less likely.

It’s widely accepted that if you shoot a person whose back is to you, you are shooting a fleeing individual. Now, there’s nuance to that of course, but generally, if you shoot someone in the back, you have a longer hill to climb in proving that person was not moving away from you at the time you shot them.

Sorry, I was talking about the part where they say a shot at the front is consistent with self defense - this is the scenario we are talking about here. There is no way to know that a shot at the front is self defense simply by looking at a shirt.

[cutter99]

@3PonyFarm

I watched it on the Law & Crime Network channel, I think it was live. If I can find it I will share the link.

Here you go!

WATCH LIVE: NJ v Michael Barisone Trial Day 1 - Det. Brian Bailey - Crime Scene...

[RND]

@soloudinhere

And the magazine, which the responding offer admitted to disposing of - but not the gun, which was clearly recovered since it was shown.

I thought I heard him say he threw the gun in one direction and the magazine in the other direction. Are you saying he disposed of it, meaning totally got rid of it?

[SillyHorse]

@RND

Sorry, I was talking about the part where they say a shot at the front is consistent with self defense - this is the scenario we are talking about here. There is no way to know that a shot at the front is self defense simply by looking at a shirt.

Of course not. However, I think what they were saying was simply that a shot fired in self defense will be a shot at the front rather than the back of the victim. So, consistent with self defense, not proving self defense.

[MHM]

@3PonyFarm

I watched it on the Law & Crime Network channel, I think it was live. If I can find it I will share the link.

That would be great, thanks. I have not found it yet.

[3PonyFarm]

If you go to website, it asks for a sign up to get trial coverage and analysis. I watched it on the tv and I cannot remember the password to sign in to the network on my computer. I thought signing up would give me access on all my devices.

[RND]

@SillyHorse

Of course not. However, I think what they were saying was simply that a shot fired in self defense will be a shot at the front rather than the back of the victim. So, consistent with self defense, not proving self defense.

Yes, a self defense shot is likely to be at the front, but a shot at the front is not always self defense; therefore, a shot at the front is not necessarily consistent with self defense. The definition of consistent is doing something the same way over time. Front shots can just as easily be attempted murder or murder.

[ToN_Farm]

@3PonyFarm

f you go to website, it asks for a sign up to get trial coverage and analysis. I watched it on the tv and I cannot remember the password to sign in to the network on my computer. I thought signing up would give me access on all my devices.

You have to pay for this.

[3PonyFarm]

I did, apparently you have to sign in with your password to each device. I did on the tv but now cant remember the password to try computer.

[eggbutt]

Yep, all 3 involved and planned. No wonder JK and RG came rushing to the farm the next day! To grab that camera and what else I wonder?

[NcHorseGirl1102]

Thank you, I watched the court session live today. I may have misread, but thought someone said there was a video (I’m assuming a news type update after the trial today) of analysts speaking on how it went in court.

[MHM]

@ToN_Farm

You have to pay for this.

That’s too bad. I will have to look and see if I get that channel on my TV. It’s possible I have it and I’ve just never known it. That’s happened to me more than once in the past.

[SillyHorse]

@RND

Yes, a self defense shot is likely to be at the front, but a shot at the front is not always self defense; therefore, a shot at the front is not necessarily consistent with self defense. The definition of consistent is doing something the same way over time. Front shots can just as easily be attempted murder or murder.

That’s what I said. You want to argue. I won’t.

[RND]

@SillyHorse

That’s what I said. You want to argue. I won’t.

I was simply pointing out that that is not what you said (even if you think it is), but I’m not going to argue either.

[soloudinhere]

When I say disposed of, I mean separated from the gun it was associated with and ended up in it’s found location by doing of the officer, not that he got rid of it.

[soloudinhere]

The testimony is being posted on YouTube on the law & crime YouTube channel. I just watched Heymer’s testimony there a few hours ago.

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

@ToN_Farm

You have to pay for this.

That’s too bad. I will have to look and see if I get that channel on my TV. It’s possible I have it and I’ve just never known it. That’s happened to me more than once in the past.

You can put in your credit card for a 30 day free trial so that’s what I did. Then I’ll cancel.