Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

You can believe that all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that the definitions of “is” and “could be” are not the same. A good lawyer would recognize that fact immediately.

OK, once again, it might be time for everyone to take a breath and retire from the BB for the night.

Tomorrow’s another day.

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Really? You are obviously not familiar with legal terms, and it’s clear there is no point in trying to educate you about this sentence, and how it is commonly used in law (and medicine for that matter.) Oh, well…

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I thought it was interesting that the casings didn’t appear to be close together based on the diagram. And still scratching my head over first cop who said LK had GSW on her right hand.

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MB’s lawyer is definitely trying to present the possibility that either LK or RG were in possession of a deadly weapon - he tried to get one of the cops to say that RG went into the house for an unknown amount of time, and therefore they didn’t know what he did in there, but the cop was adamant that RG only went partially in the house to put the dog in there. MB’s lawyer has to show that either LK or RG, or both, had a deadly weapon on them to prove that MB acted in self defense when he shot LK, so he needs to somehow prove that one of them had a deadly weapon while still claiming that MB has no memory of anything that happened. I am thinking that once we get to the defense witnesses, there will be a lot of discussion surrounding who could have had what weapon at what time. As long as Bilinkas is limited to cross examining the prosecution’s witnesses, we have no idea what he’s got up his sleeve regarding his own witnesses.

I also keep remembering someone today saying something about there being a witness at the time of the shooting other than MB, LK, or RG, but I don’t know who it was. That keeps coming back to me but maybe I am not remembering correctly.

The first cop said there was someone walking up the driveway towards to barn when he arrived.

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Yes, but that’s not who I’m thinking of. There was a comment I thought I heard somewhere in today’s testimony that somehow indicated there was an actual witness to the shooting that was not LK, RG, or MB, but I can’t remember at what point I thought I heard it. And I could have misheard, or the person could have misspoken. It doesn’t matter because if there really was another witness we will hear about it at some point during the trial; if we hear nothing, I will be proven wrong.

Thanks for the warning. But from reading these threads for 2 plus years, I’m not a fan of either of them and am very glad I don’t know them personally. :grin:

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It was a neighbor. He made a 9-1-1 call. It is the first one under August 7.

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What I think you are referring to is a post made on RC’s FB page that was made just before or just after she got out of the hospital. That post has her both declaring RC giving him the gun to murder her and that it was negligent to just allow it to go missing and endanger two 12 year olds. Also that she recorded a conversation between RC and MB over the gun. It was presented in the first thread.

As the threads go on, we see mentions by both JumpinQueen and LK as to statements RC made to the cops. Those also reference the gun being missing and stolen (although to be fair it is pushed that MB stole it if you want to believe that source), but “the cops didn’t believe her”. We then find out that in a news article that RC and MB had discussed the gun in his office; and in opening statements MB’s lawyer says she was recording him in the office. There were also a couple of interesting references made on the forum by LK: two about RC breaking into their apartment (armed to the teeth and to “plant evidence”) and one about why MB had 2 counts of possession charges.

We also now know CPS showed up because of SS, as we concluded earlier (and LK/IM has denied accusing MB of abuse of children), so I do wonder if there is a mention of a gun in the SS report. I believe it was mentioned that MH’s child was 11 or 12 at the time of the incident.

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I believe at some point in the trial, somebody mentioned the kid being 11 and being sent back to his father for his own safety with everything that was going on at the farm. Does MH have another kid? Or is it just that one? For some reason I was thinking there was more than one kid involved.

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I may be mistaken about which children are involved in what. I do believe it was said in the police lawsuit that MH has two children but not their ages. We also know there were at least two children that were claimed to be threatened by RG. And LK specifically mentions two twelve year olds. So, quite a few kids around it seems. I guess how many and who was affected by what will get sorted out later.

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Yikes. Definitely way too many given the circumstances.

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Has there ever been a study on jurors researching the case they are serving on, even if they have been told not to?

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That would be interesting.

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The judge said to the defense regarding the victims……they are not on trial here, it sounds like a lot of bad character evidence, I am not going to allow that.
Guess he doesn’t agree with victim shaming.
:+1:

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But at the same time, perhaps he needs to show how “bad” these characters are because they did play a role in MB’s stress/insanity. However, I don’t know where the line is there and how relevant it actually is. I’m not saying they’re to blame, should be shamed (although some of their behaviors were shameful), or are the ones on trial, but I do think there has to be some context and stage setting, just not going overboard with it. Bilinkas was probably pushing that limit/exceeding it.

No, I’m not team MB, or trying to victim shame. Before anyone gets all uppity.

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The effects of the behavior of each individual on the trajectory of the situation, especially considering the mental health of the accused needs to be fully understood for jurors to determine the outcome.
The campaign of harassment etc is vital, I would assume, to determining the validity of the claim of self defense and “insanity”.

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Thanks to those of you who are watching and providing info about what is being said. I have pressing work deadlines so am not able to watch.

And in the horse race between soloudinhere and RND about the meaning of “is consistent”, my money is on soloudinhere. Full disclosure: I have been a technical writer for 30+ years with an honors AA in English and a BS in Technical Writing & Communication (4.0 GPA in the latter and should have graduated summa cum laude but I transferred in as a junior and didn’t meet the residency requirements for honors).

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You did not add it to a quote. You simply added it. You are the one who added the word “only.” But please, do go on about how you are the one person here who can read and write and comprehend.

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