Barisone Trial This Month

[trubandloki]

@Inigo-montoya

Nope…the public was not invited. Given lingering Covid restrictions they planned to use the entire courtroom for socially distanced prospective jurors. Actually, at one point they were discussing doing the first day or two of jury selection via zoom…don’t know if that happened.

Bummer, was hoping for an update on how it went.

[Inigo-montoya]

Me too…lol

[Inigo-montoya]

I think that’s generally true of most people who work in daily horse care. But, obviously, this was an extraordinary situation.

[trubandloki]

@Inigo-montoya

I think that’s generally true of most people who work in daily horse care. But, obviously, this was an extraordinary situation.

I do agree, quite extraordinary.

[hut-ho78]

I agree the majority of horse care workers I know would risk their lives for the horses in their care and do in floods and fires and accident.

And yet of course no one in the horse business ever broke a leg for insurance money or sabotaged a race horse or sewn thread up the back of a horse’s leg before a show or quicked them or wacked them in the back legs to jump higher or used a battery pack to give them a shock to perform better or shorted them on feed or hay or didn’t clean the stalls or poisoned them or spooked them into a fence or hooked them up to an extension cord or painted words on them or all over, suffocating them or drugged them or broken their tail so they can’t swing it to keep flies off, or burned down a barn of a rival or for insurance money or smoked in a stall. Of course no one would do that, yet all of these things have happened and that’s just the stuff that hit the news.

[Inigo-montoya]

Sorry, guess again. As a matter of fact go to your nearest casino and bet your house, your life and your children’s lives that no recording devices were taken by RG and LK.
As for the recording devices being illegal…we shall see. Not in the case at hand but with whatever comes after…media, USOPC, SafeSport…who knows?
As an extremely experienced criminal defense lawyer has advised LK and RG…"if you put a recording device in your locker because you were afraid…and that recording device revealed a plot to do you harm…I’ll get that dismissed in 10 minutes! And if the plot to do you harm actually took place…I’ll get that dismissed in 5 minutes.

[Inigo-montoya]

Sorry…typo…no recording devices were taken by RG and JK.

[eggbutt]

@Inigo-montoya

C’mon, you know better. Well…to be fair…I do. By the time MB tried to kill LK and RG the staff pretty much were put in the position of choosing sides…and as employees of MB who remained employed at his pleasure is it any mystery whose side they were taking?
I understand you were not there and cannot know what LK and RG knew but there is zero chance you or any horse person would have felt comfortable leaving your horses in the care of that “staff.”
Certainly you don’t believe JK and RG left the ICU knowing they might get a call at any moment to come back because LK had died from her injuries!! They went because they knew LK’s dying wish would have been “make sure my horses are ok.”

How wonderful and gracious that the woman who was so afraid she slept outside her horse’s stall and allegedly brought the weapon used in the altercation, stepped up and told you or RG that she would take care of the horses. How trusting of you.

[Angela_Freda]

NJ numbers have been up

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

I agree the majority of horse care workers I know would risk their lives for the horses in their care and do in floods and fires and accident.

And yet of course no one in the horse business ever broke a leg for insurance money or sabotaged a race horse or sewn thread up the back of a horse’s leg before a show or quicked them or wacked them in the back legs to jump higher or used a battery pack to give them a shock to perform better or shorted them on feed or hay or didn’t clean the stalls or poisoned them or spooked them into a fence or hooked them up to an extension cord or painted words on them or all over, suffocating them or drugged them or broken their tail so they can’t swing it to keep flies off, or burned down a barn of a rival or for insurance money or smoked in a stall. Of course no one would do that, yet all of these things have happened and that’s just the stuff that hit the news.

Well that was dramatic! Has there ever been a complaint of any of your posted atrocities against Barisone or HHF? No, I didn’t think so.

Of course we have had posts from, what was her user name, seahorse, that years ago Barisone abused her horse. We were never told specifically what that abuse was though.

[soloudinhere]

They will probably wait if it’s a matter of a day or two. Attorneys, court reporters, paralegals, witnesses, court officers, additional all and sundry will all have been given dates to be available and scheduled, so I would expect starting early would only be if both sides agree that they’re ready with everyone they want to be ready on an earlier date.

But I don’t know the rules in NJ intimately.

[eggbutt]

@Inigo-montoya

Sorry, guess again. As a matter of fact go to your nearest casino and bet your house, your life and your children’s lives that no recording devices were taken by RG and LK.
As for the recording devices being illegal…we shall see. Not in the case at hand but with whatever comes after…media, USOPC, SafeSport…who knows?
As an extremely experienced criminal defense lawyer has advised LK and RG…"if you put a recording device in your locker because you were afraid…and that recording device revealed a plot to do you harm…I’ll get that dismissed in 10 minutes! And if the plot to do you harm actually took place…I’ll get that dismissed in 5 minutes.

Well good for them. Would that be one of the Top Five Global Law Firm partners LK has on speed dial with all their staff? Edited to ask why LK/RG feel the need to hire a criminal defense attorney?

For sure, every facility she ever boards at will be well aware and suspicious (I would hope) of prior installation of illegal recording devices at HHF and be rightly concerned about the same activity on their property.

Again, you’ve provided another troubling question the average person might have and that of course is, why stay if there was that much fear? I’m sorry, IM, but I don’t buy it and fully understand you don’t care whether I do or not.

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The “details” matter.

Only if you think the “details” are accurate as stated.

[Inigo-montoya]

I do care that you don’t buy it…but I understand that’s hopeless. If there were a video of MB shooting LK and RG in the back of the head you’d have an excuse for MB. I get that.
I didn’t say RG and LK hired a criminal defense attorney…although in a case of this magnitude it is not that uncommon for a victim to get advice from someone other than the state. The state represents the people of NJ…LK and RG are really not the prosecutor’s clients.

And in response to another of your posts about the gracious RC…you may soon learn that she did not drive overnight from NC to NJ because she believed LK might harm her horse/s. It was others who put that ridiculous idea into her head. The same others who mocked RC mercilessly and said horrible things about her in front of LK, RG and the barn staff.

I know you don’t wanna believe this but MB’s attorneys and best friends have told me point blank…“without MHG this never would have happened.” They understand even if you refuse to.

[Inigo-montoya]

You’re right. As much as they’d like to finish the trial before Easter/Spring break the logistics of which you spoke will make a start date before the scheduled date of March 28 pretty impossible.

[eggbutt]

Hmmmm, to be fair, LK has said some pretty ugly things about RC as well.

I understand you and others in your camp blame MHG for everything going wrong. What I have trouble grasping is why LK got in the middle of their relationship to begin with. It makes no difference what I think or why, it all matters what a jury believes. I don’t buy LK’s story of what happened and, as you say, probably never will. It all could have been avoided if she had left when she was offered refuge after her “fearful” posts and then handled other issues with MB through legal channels if necessary.

I still think there is a lot that hasn’t been made public by both sides.

[Knights_Mom]

@soloudinhere

They will probably wait if it’s a matter of a day or two. Attorneys, court reporters, paralegals, witnesses, court officers, additional all and sundry will all have been given dates to be available and scheduled, so I would expect starting early would only be if both sides agree that they’re ready with everyone they want to be ready on an earlier date.

But I don’t know the rules in NJ intimately.

Hey!! You forgot all about the vacuumers!!

[ASB_Stars]

Awwwww

[Inigo-montoya]

I’ll just say this and leave it for tonight.

LK did not get in the middle of the relationship. MB was her trainer and landlord although it was more or less a barter arrangement as well. LK made decisions based on what MB told her…not MHG. How else should it be?
So if MHG told LK “you need to leave” and MB told LK “don’t worry I’ll handle MHG” what was she to do.
MB wanted to have it both ways…He told LK he’d handle MHG and he told MHG he would handle LK. That wasn’t fair to either of them…but that was how it was.
If you can at least start by accepting that was what was happening … well…I don’t know how to finish that that thought.

[MHM]

@Sdel

I though it was reported somewhere that a neighbor’s security system alerted 911 because of gun shots.

Wow. That’s a good neighbor to have. I did not even know that was a thing.