Was it bogus? There was a shooting that day.
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Well, it didn’t prevent the shooting, did it? CPS didn’t do anything as far as getting someone arrested for child abuse. More than likely it was the last straw for MB.
It is my opinion that, had CPS not come to the farm, there would have been no shooting.
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Yes, it was bogus, unless Miss Cleo was there and could see the future.
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To be fair, after months and years with literally thousands upon thousands of posts on the subject, it would be easy to forget some details or miss them in the first place. But that doesn’t mean the “movie version” one person made up in their head is any more valid than someone else’s version.
I just hope the trial will provide enough factual evidence to settle the whole debate once and for all, although I realize there is no guarantee that will happen.
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Good grief. Barisone’s own civil lawyers claimed in a lawsuit that the cops standing around the police department should have noticed that he was on the verge of a mental breakdown. They didn’t know he had access to a gun.
RC was a trained psychiatric professional, knew MB, knew he had a gun, her gun, and had days to notice any deterioration in his mental condition.
Please explain how it is not a contradiction to say that 1) a bunch of cops hearing MB give a speech with agitation, frustration, and anger in his voice are supposed to realize the man, a virtual stranger to them, is on the verge of a mental breakdown and “do something”, but 2) RC with her knowledge of psychiatry, of MB, her knowing his behavior over the last days, and her knowledge he had a gun, would not realize it was a very dangerous situation?
Were the children present on the day of the shooting? If they were, they were in danger. Everyone on that farm was in danger.
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Read my post above…the children were not there! Keep up please. But I agree with your assessment that everyone was in danger, just not too clear who was the true antagonist.
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The fact that the children were not there that day does not imply that there was no reason for CPS to investigate the situation. If the parents had shared custody and the prospect was that the children would be visiting the next weekend or some future week, all the better that the situation was investigated by CPS before the children returned.
Interesting that you now think it was probably SS who called CPS. As I understand it both LK and MB filed reports with SS accusing the other of bullying and harassment. How tragic and ironic if the CPS visit which “triggered” MB was initiated in part by his own call to SS.
The situation on the farm was extremely dangerous. If SS got reports from two different adult antagonists, and knew from talking with them that sometimes there were children on the farm (as well as minor working students), they would have to report to CPS. CPS would be obligated to visit.
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She isn’t “scrappy”. She is damn nasty, and she seems to enjoy being belligerent. She doesn’t seem reflective when she comes on here- she is aggressive, confrontational, and generally despicable.
You may feel sorry for her, but I see her as someone who couldn’t have been taught a lesson by this whole mess, and clearly has not.
Cutter- this appears pointed at you, but it is not.
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Here’s a question for all - wouldn’t LK/RG know what was said during the CPS visit since they had their illegal surveillance equipment everywhere? Wouldn’t they have known he left that meeting while it was still in process and headed up the drive to them? Diesel duallys aren’t particularly quiet.
I still believe they knew he was coming and he was attacked by them when he arrived to his own property. I will never believe otherwise. Who shot whom and how is still questionable in my opinion.
I still wonder what RG and JK removed from the property (house and barn) the very next day.
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I’m glad you agree that everyone was in danger. If the children were there routinely as part of a shared custody arrangement, it was absolutely appropriate for CPS to investigate, even if the children were not there that day.
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What if the kids weren’t there that week or month?
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MH’s children were gone long before it went to hell in a hand basket. Keep in mind there were other minors there who were threatened by RG. I wonder if they will be called as witnesses?
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If the kids weren’t present, on the whole farm that day but near the house specifically, they weren’t in danger. 
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OMG!!!
Projection much?
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I am really looking forward to MH’s testimony about the CPS report and what her children said when they were interviewed later. While the report may not be admissible, questions to her about the findings sure would be.
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I would guess that the direction of the questions would indicate which “side” lead to the CPS visit.
That may have been why it was a last straw, if it in fact was. Because it was clear who made the bogus report, and therefore their intent was clear. Maybe their dedication to this was also made more clear by the visit as well. The idea that this was not going to end easily, without more mud slung about?
speculation of course
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Keep in mind that it is Barisone’s civil lawyer who alleged there were other minors on the property who were threatened by RG.
If Barisone was not making up that particular allegation against RG, doesn’t that imply that it was Barisone himself that called CPS? Or, again assuming it’s not just a made up allegation, perhaps Barisone in his concern for the working students delegated to RC or MHG to call CPS.
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If the kids weren’t present on the whole farm that day they weren’t in danger that day.
I was assuming that CPS would nevertheless investigate to determine their safety in the near future, if there was an ongoing shared custody arrangement.
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This is a classic example of grasping at straws. Wow. Just wow. Think about what you are saying.
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