Barisone Trial This Month

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@Knights_Mom

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@TwiSedai

@trubandloki

the post in question was removed very quickly after the shooting

That would make sense. I was hoping someone had screenshot the one they are talking about somewhere at least. Could still be out there somewhere.

In the absence of the post you provided in which LK says she owns two guns and they’re both Walthers, it’s conceivable that she might have posted that she owned a Ruger and the post was deleted.

However, given she posted, as you have documented, that she owned two guns, both Walthers, it does not make at sense that she would then post that she owned a Ruger.

On the other hand, people misremember posts all the time, so it’s extremely likely KM remembered a post about guns and when the gun at the crime scene was identified as a Ruger, posted that she had seen a FB post by LK saying LK owned a Ruger.

The simple confusion and misremembering would not have been that bad if KM had admitted the possibility that she was had misremembered when corrected by LK, but instead she doubled and tripled down.

KM has said she has proof. However, rather than posting the proof, she simply asserts, again and again, that the Ruger post existed.

The final consideration; KM has repeatedly expressed outrage that LK apparently threatened her with a libel action. If the post existed, and KM actually had proof that it existed, she would not have been bothered by a threat of a libel action, because, as the sage of the courtroom, she would know that the truth of the statement is bullet proof defense against libel.

Pun intended.

Thank you for finding and posting LKs post about her guns. The information that she had not brought them to NJ expressly because she understood the severity of the NJ gun laws puts the behavior of RC in stark contrast.

Wrong. The post I spoke of was on FB.

The post you speak of was on COTH.

You keep repeating the same thing over and over again.

I’m speaking of the FB post of LKs provided by TwiSdai

I understand you’re claiming there is another, now deleted, FB post referring to a Ruger.

If you have proof of the FB post referring to a Ruger, provide it.

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@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@TwiSedai

Just to clear up the gun thing real quick…

This is the Facebook post.

That IS NOT the FB post I’m referring to.

We know that. Please post the FB post that you are referring to. You’ve said you have proof of its (brief) existence.

[Knights_Mom]

Yes I have proof and I’m sorry I don’t obey very well.

Besides what difference does it make? This is a posting board not a courtroom.

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@Knights_Mom

Yes I have proof and I’m sorry I don’t obey very well.

Besides what difference does it make? This is a posting board not a courtroom.

Exactly what I thought you’d say!

[erinmeri]

If there is proof, then what’s the harm in posting it? Seems like that would be prudent since this (to me, totally random and not at all relevant) discussion of what makes of firearm LK possesses seems to have put a bee in everyone’s bonnet. I personally don’t think it is relevant that she owns guns, unless my vague, foggy, unreliable, perhaps false memory is true that she posted photos of said gun(s) to FB in the days leading up to the shooting. But I could be entirely making that up in my head. ETA: I am NOT saying she did, but I seem to have some image in my head of that. But after almost 2.5 years of crazy claims and theories and other things floating around this BB, I could be totally imagining that.

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@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m speaking of the FB post of LKs provided by TwiSdai

Yes. I know.

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@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m speaking of the FB post of LKs provided by TwiSdai

Yes. I know.

Yes, everyone understood that except KM, who thought I was referring to a COTH post.

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@erinmeri

Seems like that would be prudent since this (to me, totally random and not at all relevant) discussion of what makes of firearm LK possesses seems to have put a bee in everyone’s bonnet.

It’s not random, nor is it irrelevant. It’s actually a very psychologically sound understanding of speech and writing patterns.

[Knights_Mom]

@erinmeri

If there is proof, then what’s the harm in posting it? Seems like that would be prudent since this (to me, totally random and not at all relevant) discussion of what makes of firearm LK possesses seems to have put a bee in everyone’s bonnet. I personally don’t think it is relevant that she owns guns, unless my foggy, unreliable, perhaps false memory is true that she posted photos of said gun(s) to FB in the days leading up to the shooting. But I could be entirely making that up in my head.

I’ve posted one person already whose post I found where they mentioned it. I posted it openly and I was told it was my friend, it’s fake blah blah blah.

Meanwhile I never met the person, am not friends with them. For all I know they got harassed just like I did. So I don’t really feel the need to subject a group of people to the possibility of harassment just to prove a point to a bunch of people who will find excuses to discount those people and their posts anyway.

So I choose to keep the info safe and sound while I watch guys contort yourselves to compel me because curiously, for some reason, it seems to be a big deal to you.

Being you say you have the Cox testimony it is a curious thing indeed.

[erinmeri]

My question would be: what bearing would LK’s gun ownership or lack there of, specifically the make(s) of said firearms, have on this trial? So what if it is a Ruger? There is no doubt that the pink and black Ruger used in this altercation belonged to RC, not LK. Am I missing something?

[erinmeri]

@Knights_Mom

Being you say you have the Cox testimony it is a curious thing indeed.

I have never said any such thing. What are you referring to? Are you confusing me with someone else?

[Jealoushe]

It’s truly very hard to prove anything posted on the internet in court. Unless they have non refutable proof of the person using their device at that time, it’s basically a lost cause. That’s why so many cyber stalking crimes go unpunished. It’s way to easy to show anyone else could have been behind the keyboard.

[Knights_Mom]

@erinmeri

@Knights_Mom

Being you say you have the Cox testimony it is a curious thing indeed.

I have never said any such thing. What are you referring to? Are you confusing me with someone else?

No I wasn’t speaking to you at all.

[erinmeri]

Thanks for clearing that up since you quoted me.

[Knights_Mom]

Yeah I must have screwed up. I intended to quote CH. Sorry.

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@Knights_Mom

@erinmeri

If there is proof, then what’s the harm in posting it? Seems like that would be prudent since this (to me, totally random and not at all relevant) discussion of what makes of firearm LK possesses seems to have put a bee in everyone’s bonnet. I personally don’t think it is relevant that she owns guns, unless my foggy, unreliable, perhaps false memory is true that she posted photos of said gun(s) to FB in the days leading up to the shooting. But I could be entirely making that up in my head.

I’ve posted one person already whose post I found where they mentioned it. I posted it openly and I was told it was my friend, it’s fake blah blah blah.

Meanwhile I never met the person, am not friends with them. For all I know they got harassed just like I did. So I don’t really feel the need to subject a group of people to the possibility of harassment just to prove a point to a bunch of people who will find excuses to discount those people and their posts anyway.

So I choose to keep the info safe and sound while I watch guys contort yourselves to compel me because curiously, for some reason, it seems to be a big deal to you.

Being you say you have the Cox testimony it is a curious thing indeed.

So your “proof” that LK had a FB post saying she owned a Ruger consists of a FB post by someone else (neither you nor LK) saying that the someone else saw a post by LK about a Ruger?

Yeah, don’t bother posting that. That’s not proof.

[soloudinhere]

Well, on the gun charge alone, unlawful possession is 3-5 years, possession for unlawful purpose (eg to commit a crime) is 5-10 years. Graves act minimum would be 1/3 to 1/2 the sentence before parole would be possible.

First degree attempted murder, based on a quick scan of NJ law is max of life in prison, second degree is 5-15 years.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@erinmeri

If there is proof, then what’s the harm in posting it? Seems like that would be prudent since this (to me, totally random and not at all relevant) discussion of what makes of firearm LK possesses seems to have put a bee in everyone’s bonnet. I personally don’t think it is relevant that she owns guns, unless my foggy, unreliable, perhaps false memory is true that she posted photos of said gun(s) to FB in the days leading up to the shooting. But I could be entirely making that up in my head.

I’ve posted one person already whose post I found where they mentioned it. I posted it openly and I was told it was my friend, it’s fake blah blah blah.

Meanwhile I never met the person, am not friends with them. For all I know they got harassed just like I did. So I don’t really feel the need to subject a group of people to the possibility of harassment just to prove a point to a bunch of people who will find excuses to discount those people and their posts anyway.

So I choose to keep the info safe and sound while I watch guys contort yourselves to compel me because curiously, for some reason, it seems to be a big deal to you.

Being you say you have the Cox testimony it is a curious thing indeed.

So your “proof” that LK had a FB post saying she owned a Ruger consists of a FB post by someone else (neither you nor LK) saying that the someone else saw a post by LK about a Ruger?

Yeah, don’t bother posting that. That’s not proof.

Not exactly. There isn’t ONE.

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@erinmeri

My question would be: what bearing would LK’s gun ownership or lack there of, specifically the make(s) of said firearms, have on this trial? So what if it is a Ruger? There is no doubt that the pink and black Ruger used in this altercation belonged to RC, not LK. Am I missing something?

Very early on in the first weeks after the shooting, the make of the gun recovered at the scene was known, but not the owner.

If LK had been bragging about owning a Ruger on FB prior to the shooting, that would have raised the possibility that the gun was hers and she had brought the gun to N.J.

Once it was established that the gun was owned and transported to N.J. by RC, it’s irrelevant.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

it’s irrelevant.

But somehow, you (and others) keep asking about it, and the post about it.
If it is irrelevant it would seem like you would stop asking about it.

@CurrentlyHorseless

What is there not one of?

Read your post that is quoted. It seems obvious what there is more than one of, at least to me.

I can say, on the subject we were discussing earlier. The post about LK’s two guns was her making a point. Not her giving an inventory of her firearm collection. To me (and I am not saying you have to agree, because clearly you do not), I can totally see someone talking about this and that and not going into something else. Like I might discuss the fire arms that I picked out but not tell you about some others that I have on my permit. Or maybe not even think to mention the long guns when I am talking about a specific hand gun.