Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[trubandloki]

@yaya

@Scribbler

It’s true that old posts can come back to haunt you however long after the specific conflict is forgotten.

Judge Milian from The People’s Court says she tells her kids, “Say it, forget it; write it, regret it” in regards to online posting and the permanence of the internet.

Yes, but saying it does not give Bob enough attention. Writing all over the internet is required to get the amount of attention that Bob needs.

[Sdel]

FYI…. If anyone was wondering where the prosecution was going with the cross of Ali Brock that was cut off……here is a link to the relevant LK spew….

https://forum.chronofhorse.com/t/amateur-rule-where-do-you-protest-someone-s-status/757747/304?u=sdel

[Sdel]

Scroll through a few of them in that amateur thread….there is at least one references to “judges”….

[Sdel]

More ironic gold that should be framed…

[Joanne]

Some people live to go after others for the slightest offense or even no offense.

I don’t think LK et al dare take on Ulf Moeller/Helgstrand Dressage for the facts they have more money than the Ks and also because it is somewhat prestigious to be trained by them.

Otherwise, it is open hunting for LK.

[modifiedequitation]

@eggbutt

And what makes you think his “partner” hasn’t taken on the huge load of maintaining everything in his absence? This particular person didn’t jump and run when things became difficult, chosing to stay, organize others to get what needed to be done quickly and efficiently while running their own successful business. Everyone should have a “partner” like this in their lives. It’s called loyalty and stepping up for those in need. Too bad others are immune to those attributes.

What does this have to do with anything I said? Yes, she’s loyal and a great partner and she’s doing something very kind that I could not imagine doing. i have nothing against her.

[eggbutt]

It could be Ulf/Helgstrand kept them at arm’s length and have always dealt with them 100% straight business only with no uncertain terms. Of course she isn’t on Helgstrand property either.

[Sdel]

@eggbutt

It could be Ulf/Helgstrand kept them at arm’s length and have always dealt with them 100% straight business only with no uncertain terms. Of course she isn’t on Helgstrand property either.

I wonder if it was really just COVID that kept her from following him back to Europe….

[Sdel]

Okay, going back to why some of the pre-shooting 911 calls were not included in the trial……and hearsay….

LK made claims of being present and videoing at least one of them….implied it was a cell phone video. Why would that not be admissible or introduced by the prosecution? The only thing I can think of is because the video wasn’t made on a cell phone but on one of her other recorders that MB wasn’t aware of….

[MHM]

@Sdel

More ironic gold that should be framed…

O. M. G.

[Mersidoats]

@eggbutt

It could be Ulf/Helgstrand kept them at arm’s length and have always dealt with them 100% straight business only with no uncertain terms. Of course she isn’t on Helgstrand property either.

This. No barter, no boarding, cash money in the account, contracts with terms. Plus, the herr doktor is only there during the season. The rest of the year, some poor working student/assistant trainer has to work with her.

[MHM]

@Mersidoats

This. No barter, no boarding, cash money in the account, contracts with terms.

As I said either in this thread or a previous one, those who cannot learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

But it’s even better to learn from the mistakes of others, so you don’t have to make those same mistakes yourself.

[lazaret]

And let’s face it. What does 500 or even 1k really do for a YR or ammie really wanting to develop their skills & horses? One lesson? 3? One clinic?

Oh, so it sounds like she knows exactly how far her $5k a month should have gone.

[PeteyPie]

@MorganSercu

Earlier this month. The teas were awesome too.

That is so beautiful that I am going to start a different thread in Off Topic about favorite tea recipes and decor. Will you post on there and let me know what your favorites are? I made some tea items for Easter and my cucumber sandwiches were not good at all. Too slidey-aparty and bland.

[lazaret]

@Sdel

LK made claims of being present and videoing at least one of them….implied it was a cell phone video. Why would that not be admissible or introduced by the prosecution?

can’t answer as to why the prosecution wouldn’t try to use it if it were favorable to their case, but in general, being present for one half of a conversation means that you can say you were there, and the conversation took place, but you can’t attest that anything that was said in that conversation were TRUE. In other words, you could say “I heard Party A say XYZ” but you could not say XYZ was truthful (you don’t know that it was) or that party A said XYZ to Party B, because you don’t actually know who is on the other end of the phone.

The thing with hearsay is it’s almost always possible to get in what you want if you come at it from a different angle. If it were that important to their case, they would have found a way to get it in. The hearsay rule is literally one pile of loopholes, pick the right one and you’re through.

[MorganSercu]

Absolutely!

But I didn’t make any of this - it is a local tea shop. I will list what they made that the birthday crowd loved (and teenagers can be PICKY).

[Angela_Freda]

@Joanne

I don’t think LK et al dare take on Ulf Moeller/Helgstrand Dressage for the facts they have more money than the Ks and also because it is somewhat prestigious to be trained by them.

Moeller should consider how this association reflects on him.
Barisone is no slouch.

[Sdel]

@lazaret

@Sdel

LK made claims of being present and videoing at least one of them….implied it was a cell phone video. Why would that not be admissible or introduced by the prosecution?

can’t answer as to why the prosecution wouldn’t try to use it if it were favorable to their case, but in general, being present for one half of a conversation means that you can say you were there, and the conversation took place, but you can’t attest that anything that was said in that conversation were TRUE. In other words, you could say “I heard Party A say XYZ” but you could not say XYZ was truthful (you don’t know that it was) or that party A said XYZ to Party B, because you don’t actually know who is on the other end of the phone.

The thing with hearsay is it’s almost always possible to get in what you want if you come at it from a different angle. If it were that important to their case, they would have found a way to get it in. The hearsay rule is literally one pile of loopholes, pick the right one and you’re through.

The claim was there was a full video of the entire call……and since it was a 911 call, both sides were recorded (and publicly released). My thought was the combination of the two would have provided visual context and evidence to state of mind in the days leading up to the shooting. Since RG and RC were both mentioned as being there within the 911 call, it makes sense to have asked them about it and the video….

[Angela_Freda]

@Mersidoats

This. No barter, no boarding, cash money in the account, contracts with terms. Plus, the herr doktor is only there during the season. The rest of the year, some poor working student/assistant trainer has to work with her.

and being scraped off on JH was why she was miffed with MB so…??

[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

@Mersidoats

This. No barter, no boarding, cash money in the account, contracts with terms. Plus, the herr doktor is only there during the season. The rest of the year, some poor working student/assistant trainer has to work with her.

and being scraped off on JH was why she was miffed with MB so…??

Maybe it’s easier on the ego if the head trainer is on the other side of the ocean, not the other side of the ring.