Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[MHM]

@ekat

@ohnoO

“You are riding in a car in a bad rainstorm. The car is just getting pelted. The noise is deafening. Then you come to an underpass and instantly all is lovely and quiet!”

That is a great description based on what I have heard from addicts and recovering addicts.

Is the underpass when they start using suboxone or something similar? Or when they turn the corner and don’t need anything?

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Well drug addicts in the midst of a bender can’t ever be considered rational.

[Sdel]

@Omgitsme

This aged well

So….now since she promised to release them if they didn’t feature in the trial….it’s time to put up or shut up.

[ekat]

@MHM

Is the underpass when they start using suboxone or something similar? Or when they turn the corner and don’t need anything?

It’s a description of using heroin. Your life is being relentlessly pelted in a downpour. Heroin is the underpass. Suboxone is more like a good umbrella that coincides with a slight break in the storm.

[MHM]

@ekat

@MHM

Is the underpass when they start using suboxone or something similar? Or when they turn the corner and don’t need anything?

It’s a description of using heroin. Your life is being relentlessly pelted in a downpour. Heroin is the underpass. Suboxone is more like a good umbrella that coincides with a slight break in the storm.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

[ohnoO]

Bingo! We have another winner!

[MHM]

@Sdel

So….now since she promised to release them if they didn’t feature in the trial….it’s time to put up or shut up.

Maybe she meant the civil trial. Lol.

[trubandloki]

@MHM

“Spat” is not the first word that would occur to me.

Isn’t Spat or a similar word how @Inigo-montoya described it too?

I agree with you, MHM. Totally not how I would describe it at all.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re bolded.

Very proud of you, you figured out how to bold.

[DownYonder]

@ekat

@DownYonder

Ah, so she was being ambiguous to avoid owning up to the fact that she was a confirmed junkie. I can’[t believe that an experienced prosecutor like Schellhorn didn’t get it that she was playing him (since he didn’t drill down on it), but I guess he let it go because it certainly would not have helped his case if she had admitted she was an addict.

The reality is Schellhorn had to to address it. Better to come out in direct than when Mr B brings it up. You try to do that as gently and as nonchalantly as possible and move on. She gave him an answer that didn’t sound too bad, so he moved away.

I was actually surprised that Schellhorn brought it up since I thought the directive was to do everything possible to not call her “character” into question. But once it was brought up, I was hoping Mr. B would delve into it a bit more during cross by asking her to clarify although I guess Taylor would have shut him down. Still, it was interesting that Schellhorn even mentioned it.

[Scribbler]

@Dragonfly90

MB’s lawyer has stated that MB is a different man now that the trial is over.
That’s a good thing as if he behaves like he did during the trial it will be a long time before he will ever be released. My theory is MB went down there to prove he was a man to MH, as he was losing her, also in his mind to show he was protecting her and her children.
Reading some of the comments on other SM on this case are enlightening. Many of the same people here show up really letting the nastiness go, not having the restrictions of here, repeating theories and opinions as fact, and demonstrate clearly they all know each other and are in cahoots to be sure LK will never be welcomed or allowed to show again, even if it means spreading lies, or blackballing or harassing a trainer or farrier that works with her(yes, that was said) . GJ seems to be enjoying the attention and her comments are insane. Some random guy says LK lost him a high paying job and it repeated here as if it is fact. Someone goes off on LK’s mother, telling people that she has the nerve to post on COTH(her actually nice post) after the trial. It’s all looney.
There are a lot of hateful people on social media that seem to enjoy the nastiness(and I believe LK was/is one of them). As long as they are hostile towards LK and family that’s ok, got it.
I was however pleased to see that when someone here said LK should
Overdose there was criticism, so we at least know what is consider going too far.
However when another poster a while back used a horrific term for sexual abuse of children not a peep, as they were expressing the “majority “ opinion. If it was a minority opinion there would have been pearl clutching and reporting. I am not sure why you (collectively) cannot accept that there are people that do not agree with every position or theory you (collectively) put out there and can still not approve with LK’s actions. Or believe some of you are a bit dramatic and over the top with the harassment. MB got the best verdict he could hope for as did LK considering evidence and testimony. There are no winners.

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I think our brief foray into othrkinds of chat groups can lay to rest the persistent fallacy that COTH is particularly vicious mean or cut throat compared to other groups. In fact it is very tame.

LK has specialized in targeting emotionally vulnerable people to cause extreme emotional anguish. So it’s not surprising that when they collectively turn on her, they are speaking from that place of anguish. It’s not going to be pretty. But I think there’s a fitting justice in LK getting hammered on public SM. She wants attention and now she’s got it but she can’t control the narrative.

[IdahoRider]

@Omgitsme

I know someone who takes suboxone and I can tell you it doesn’t prevent you from getting high using other drugs. As I understand it, if you take extra suboxone you can get a high from that alone.

In the olden days when Suboxone was first being used, it was a pill. You could take the pill and it would suppress the urge to do opiates. Or you could crush the pill and snort it or inject it like heroin. You would get sick to your stomach, and then get high.

The strips are for sublingual use. Harder to abuse. But you can “melt” them and then inject it and get high.

My oldest son is an addict and I went down this road with him.
Sheilah

[Mersidoats]

Seems she also isn’t replying like she used to. At least not on Facebook. That must be very difficult for her to have to sit on the sidelines and not be able to jump into the fray.

None of her old comments on the COTH articles from years ago are there. At least I can’t see them. So whoever has screenshots… don’t delete them. Either she deleted/deactivated her profile, locked down the privacy settings, or figured out who I was and blocked me .

[smoofox]

@Dragonfly90

There are a lot of hateful people on social media that seem to enjoy the nastiness(and I believe LK was/is one of them). As long as they are hostile towards LK and family that’s ok, got it.

So you said LK was one of those relishing in nastiness on SM - and yet immediately find fault with anyone being hostile about that fact? Just trying to figure that out…

I was however pleased to see that when someone here said LK should
Overdose there was criticism, so we at least know what is consider going too far.

There have been many things that have gone too far… sh-stuff coming from LK included. And of course people are going to call it out.

But then you go on…

However when another poster a while back used a horrific term for sexual abuse of children not a peep, as they were expressing the “majority “ opinion. If it was a minority opinion there would have been pearl clutching and reporting.

I am not even sure WTH you are referring to - what “majority opinion”? What horrific term? If you are going to toss out salacious accusations, I think you need to be more specific - quotes and/or screen captures would help. Plus these threads sometimes gallop along as if they were coming down the stretch in the Kentucky Derby (next week!) … and not everyone keeps up with every single post.

I am not sure why you (collectively) cannot accept that there are people that do not agree with every position or theory you (collectively) put out there and can still not approve with LK’s actions. Or believe some of you are a bit dramatic and over the top with the harassment.

Equally, I am not sure why some cannot understand that that there are people who may not agree with them - and yet said posters do not “hate” LK and are not MB “fangirls” etc. etc. No matter - they must be labelled as such and dismissed.

What harassment are you referring to? Just disagreeing with another poster? Is it considered too dramatic to ask that?

MB got the best verdict he could hope for as did LK considering evidence and testimony. There are no winners.

In the end there truly are no winners in this sad affair - until we get to the civil case. That may not go the way that some have gleefully predicted - a resounding victory… similar to the way the criminal trial did not go the way some insisted it would, bombshells and all.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Good grief. Re bolded. I have never said that LK was a “sweet innocent lamb” or that she played “no role” in the tragedy.

Oh good grief indeed.
I guess I should have used the /s to indicate SARCASM but I thought that using that “sweet innocent lamb” terminology would be indicative of extreme sarcasm in this case.

[ekat]

@DownYonder

I was actually surprised that Schellhorn brought it up since I thought the directive was to do everything possible to not call her “character” into question. But once it was brought up, I was hoping Mr. B would delve into it a bit more during cross by asking her to clarify although I guess Taylor would have shut him down. Still, it was interesting that Schellhorn even mentioned it.

You always want to get that kind of stuff out of your “star witnesses” under your direction, to take the sting out of it so to speak. If you know it’s lurking out there, the judge may have already ruled on a limited admissibility, you never, ever want the opponent to bring it up in a “surprise!” hostile way. Let the jury think it’s no big deal. Make the jury think, yeah, this guy just straight up told us he’s an addict. He’s being honest. Why would he lie about anything else.

If the other side presents it first, the impression you can leave with the jury is, they’re a junkie, huh? What else are they hiding?

[Sdel]

@MHM

@Sdel

So….now since she promised to release them if they didn’t feature in the trial….it’s time to put up or shut up.

Maybe she meant the civil trial. Lol.

What does it matter? They were supposed to show a plot, and LK and crew seemed very specifically fixated on MHG’s parts of it and those parts being the demise of her career. The civil trial isn’t about MHG….

[DownYonder]

@ekat

You always want to get that kind of stuff out of your “star witnesses” under your direction, to take the sting out of it so to speak. If you know it’s lurking out there, the judge may have already ruled on a limited admissibility, you never, ever want the opponent to bring it up in a “surprise!” hostile way. Let the jury think it’s no big deal. Make the jury think, yeah, this guy just straight up told us he’s an addict. He’s being honest. Why would he lie about anything else.

If the other side presents it first, the impression you can leave with the jury is, they’re a junkie, huh? What else are they hiding?

Ah, good point. Still, I was surprised that Taylor allowed it in at all, given how he seemed to be somewhat determined to “protect” LK and RG’s true character from being revealed. (And kudos again to Mr. B and team for managing to pull back the curtain just enough for the jury to “get it.”)

[BigMama1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

It’s clear that MB/MHG went to considerable effort to dig up dirt on LK, with the PI and the reaching out to people who had had SM spats with LK -GJ, HB, (Eggbutt?)- and submitting a huge file of complaints against LK to SS and USDF- that’s all admitted by MHG, right?

“Digging up dirt?” Please. First of all, little effort is required to find “dirt” on someone who lives her life the way LK has. Second, hiring someone to do a background check on a nightmare tenant hardly seems unreasonable. Unfortunately it was too little, too late. If only someone has suggested he do that when first taking her on as a student things might be very different now.

Every time I read your posts your deflections and delusions get wilder and wilder. Nobody but you is buying your spin.

[ohnoO]

You guys are so funny!

Now there is a GoFund Me contribution from “eggy butt” and “Lauren Kanawreck”

[ekat]

@DownYonder

Ah, good point. Still, I was surprised that Taylor allowed it in at all, given how he seemed to be somewhat determined to “protect” LK and RG’s true character from being revealed. (And kudos again to Mr. B and team for managing to pull back the curtain just enough for the jury to “get it.”)

I think Judge T walked a very tight rope between not wanting the victims on trial and what had to be allowed as it contributed to MB’s state of mind. And Mr B did a fabulous job walking that rope right with him.

[eggbutt]

@ohnoO

You guys are so funny!

Now there is a GoFund Me contribution from “eggy butt” and “Lauren Kanawreck”

Thanks for that donation in my honor!

Come on @CurrentlyHorseless, your ridiculous posts directed at me are helping MB’s fund increase! Keep it up. I’ll keep playing if it helps MB!!