Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ekat]

What’s weird is Mr Schellhorn started to ask about committees and such, Mr D objected, Judge Taylor said he’d allow it and…Mr Schellhorn just moved on. It was very, very odd.

[KarenK]

@hut-ho78

Oh dear! Gasp! It’s a threat on social media!

A threat? lololololololol And hun, if my dog ate all the scrabble tiles her poop would make more sense than you do in your reply to me.

[ekat]

Good lord, what a mess!

[Sdel]

@MHM

@Sdel

Yes, but the prosecution seemed to try to question Ali Brock about this on cross.

Did they? I must have missed that part. Or maybe I just did not grasp the significance of that slant.

Ali Brock’s cross. The prosecution starts to ask her about her role in the USEF and then defense objects and the prosecution declined to proceed.

[MHM]

Wow. The prosecutor really seemed to swallow a lot of stuff hook, line, and sinker.

Maybe he will end up buying a bridge in Loxahatchee and moving into the tollbooth there for his retirement home.

[BigMama1]

@ohnoO

Don’t you think it is just killing her that she can’t respond here?

100% she is reading every word in these threads.

I think she may have a mouthpiece or two who are responding here on her behalf.

[Knights_Mom]

@Mersidoats

I still don’t understand why the prosecutor was trying that line of questioning. To make it look like Allison Brock was in on the scheme to malign Lauren and get her kicked out of the USEF? To make it look like Lauren was a victim of corruption “at the highest levels”? Since when was this a RICO case against the USEF?

RICO may be in play here but not that way! The conspiracy to conduct fraud and other things is not with those exact parties accused.

[ohnoO]

This may not be kosher, but I ask (in a whisper) is anyone familiar with @dacasodivine?

They have “liked” several of my posts, but I can’t see where they have posted anywhere themselves.

That’s really fine. It just seems odd to me.

Of course maybe I just can’t figure out how to find them in other threads.

[eggbutt]

They have been a member since 2007 and don’t post frequently. I suspect they simply have liked your posts with nothing nefarious involved.

[ohnoO]

Thank you.

[Angela_Freda]

Anyone truly attempting to commit to sobriety would not be living with someone presently, or at times “slipping up”, ie using… even if its not on the farm.

There’s also the idea of stinkin thinkin, or behaving like you did while using (manipulation, gaslighting, lying, stealing, cheating,…) being a no no.

[FitzE]

@MHM

I think this definitely tests the limits of the theory that there is no such thing as bad publicity. And in fact, probably completely disproves that theory.

To quote Holly Golightly, “There are certain shades of limelight that can wreck a girl’s complexion.”

[eggbutt]

Part of the struggle with reconciling these events is we are not conditioned to people like the Kanareks and their buddies. They are outliers of society, at least in my life and neighborhood of experiences. There are few to no redeeming factors to these people…I honestly can not think of positive attributes for them, except possibly the soup kitchen work, if that was a truth.

I can imagine there really are more people out there like the Kanareks, but perhaps they are better able and willing to conform to the standards of society in order to blend in and contribute to the welfare of their environment.

[FitzE]

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@ekat

@MorganSercu

In my state, they can be in a world of legal trouble even if they do NOT know. Property can be lost, security clearances (and jobs) too
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Also here in my state. Also, even if they did not know, and police were to subsequently find illegal drugs in a common area they could also be charged with constructive possession.

I was pretty sure this is the case in VA or was at least several years ago. Late alcoholic BIL was living over our garage and married a woman who had offspring who were convicted felons and their buddies were using our address to register as sex offenders and I suspect also dealing in drugs.
They left but I suspect we are still the address of record for at least one sex offender

Wow, that’s awful! When people search it could look like someone in your own home is the registered offender.

This kind of thing and the fact that if drugs are found the property owners could face constructive possession charges should be a major concern for anyone who has people like this at their facility.

There are also many awful people out there. LK isn’t the only one willing to weaponise agencies like CPS. Anyone who knows LK’s and RG’s backgrounds could easily make a call out of ‘concern’ about the exposure of the young children at the current barn to people and behaviour like this.

Not only do I think it’s a bad idea to have people on your property like LK and RG (no way would I let them around my children), even if they don’t call CPS/do something to set in motion someone else calling CPS, it also opens you up to having other people call CPS on you for exposing minor children to drug use, people with criminal records, etc.

[Angela_Freda]

Meanwhile, the recordings she was going to release… ?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@CanteringCarrot

Man, I’ve got to stop replying and taking the bait.

You know, I’m not speculating on who CH is, I really don’t care, but a little trick might be that if you think of CH as an desperate alter of Yankee Dutchess, it becomes sooo much easier to ignore CH.

[Cowgirl]

I think she admitted to being hooked on opiods. But whatever–her behavior is still that of an addict: refusing to take responsibility for her actions (shifting blame), manipulating, lying, etc., such that there has not been recovery. Addict Behavior | Most Common Patterns of Substance Abuse Addiction (therecoveryvillage.com)

[Danvers]

FROZEN | Let It Go Sing-along | Official Disney UK

just a refresher…

[Scribbler]

@Angela_Freda

Anyone truly attempting to commit to sobriety would not be living with someone presently, or at times “slipping up”, ie using… even if its not on the farm.

There’s also the idea of stinkin thinkin, or behaving like you did while using (manipulation, gaslighting, lying, stealing, cheating,…) being a no no.

Yes exactly what I was thinking.

Is it possible some of these revelations may be bit new even to the parents?

I mean 100 per cent she lies to her parents.

They may have believed that she was seriously riding horses as part of recovery, not just dabbling in an active addict dazed way and going street addict toxic when that became apparent to those in her horse life.

[Ambitious_Kate]

1. a recovering addict does not live with another recovering addict,

2. a recovering addict does not live with another addict

3. a recovering addict is actively seeking a way to get off suboxone or methodone by taking smaller and smaller doeses. this can be difficult, because the treatment centers continue to prescribe the “medications”. Methodone is severelyl addicting and very hard to wean off of.

4. a recovering addict is actively open about their recovery and usually is under a doctor’s care supervising it, but not always. Often the have to figure it all out alone.

LK displays no signs of being a recovering addict and all the signs of being an actively using addict.