Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[BrendaJane]

Maybe the reason why Bob can’t go to the family home?

[Danvers]

what!? I missed something -Ali Brock was in on a scheme to get LK? I didn’t get that in her testimony… I didn’t hear anything about getting LK kicked out out USEF? Confused… sorry - can anyone explain? Thank you.

[MHM]

@Danvers

what!? I missed something -Ali Brock was in on a scheme to get LK? I didn’t get that in her testimony… I didn’t hear anything about getting LK kicked out out USEF? Confused… sorry - can anyone explain? Thank you.

I’m guessing the prosecutor was foolish enough to swallow some conspiracy theory from LK on the subject.

[Sdel]

@Danvers

what!? I missed something -Ali Brock was in on a scheme to get LK? I didn’t get that in her testimony… I didn’t hear anything about getting LK kicked out out USEF? Confused… sorry - can anyone explain? Thank you.

LK posted a rant on FB 2 years ago claiming they were all corrupt frauds running USEF. Usually, she is more vague about who she is talking about, but in this rant she named names. This particular rant was attached to a Chronicle of the Horse news article in the comments.

Apparently this “theory” was presented to the prosecution in the Barisone trial as a means to call Ali Brock’s character into question and discredit her testimony about MB. The prosecution started to go into it on is cross, but after an objection by the defense he thought better of it and ceased the line of questioning.

I merely asked, if anyone knew of this kind of accusation was something the upper mgmt of USEF was interested in knowing about since they almost made it into a criminal trial.

[Danvers]

Thank you - but I still don’t understand - I watched all he Olympians on the stand, a couple , ok, many times… - never heard anyone challenge Ali Brock? maybe because I got distracted and forgot when Philip Dutton, blow my mind, and my crush forever Boyd Martin, then testified on behalf of MB… sigh… and BTW I am a super fan of Ali Brock - so can anyone explain what happened on the stand with her? I didn’t / don’t get it…

[Sdel]

@Danvers

Thank you - but I still don’t understand - I watch all he Olympians on the stand, a couple , ok, many times… - never heard anyone challenge Ali Brock? maybe because I got distracted and forgot when Philip Dutton, blow my mind, and my crush forever Boyd Martin, then testified on behalf of MB… sigh… and BTW I am a super fan of Ali Brock - so can anyone explain what happened on the stand with her? I didn’t get it…

They literally didn’t get the whole question out. They got objected to as soon as the prosecution mentioned the word USEF committee……they stopped there.

[Danvers]

so they tried to discredit her?

[Sdel]

Yes, they intended to discredit her.

[Knights_Mom]

Yes. Brock just vacuums under other Olympians saddle racks

LMAO sorry I couldn’t resist

(Note sarcasm!)

[Danvers]

Shame, Shame on them - Discrediting an Olympian who has worked hard and honestly all her life. SHAME on them. You can not cheat in Dressage.

[eggbutt]

Ironically Ali Brock instructs at Paradigm, at least she used to coach Leif Aho at his facility. I have no idea if they still work with each other or not.

[Danvers]

well… I hope she stays far away from: She Who Shall Not Be Named - actually, hope the Olympian totally disregards her as the nobody that she is.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

Logged onto a different computer that seems to be working far bettter.

Here you got @CurrentlyHorseless.

Sorry for the confusion.
I can keep looking and find more if you would like.

Thanks, sincerely, for posting the actual quotes.

In point 2, that’s where IM is predicting, in my interpretation, that USEF will not touch MHG with a ten foot pole in naming her to an international team. He’s not saying that he actively intends to do anything to thwart her. I’m making the distinction between someone vowing to take active steps to ruin someone’s chances vs passively noting that, in their opinion, someone’s chances have been ruined (by their own actions in the tragedy). If you want to come back and insult my reading comprehension and say, ‘no, this is a vow by IM to ruin MGH’, there’s nothing I can say to that other than I appreciate, sincerely, that you posted his actual words so that others can decide for themselves what he meant.

On the significance of “ruin her universe”, as I remember IM was saying MHG uttered something about MB/MHG intending to ‘ruin her universe’ with “her” referring to LK. I had the impression that IM was suggesting that phrase was in the audio recordings, which, although not used in the criminal case, might be used by other adjudicators or by 48 hours.

The only reason to keep looking would be to find the quote in which IM states that “ruin her universe” was said by MHG about LK. It’s clear that MB/MHG went to considerable effort to dig up dirt on LK, with the PI and the reaching out to people who had had SM spats with LK -GJ, HB, (Eggbutt?)- and submitting a huge file of complaints against LK to SS and USDF- that’s all admitted by MHG, right?

MHG was campaigning to ruin LK in the weeks prior to the shooting. After the shooting, MHG disappeared and LO laudably packed up the facility and provided what support she could to MB. Who took over the effort to ruin LK? Did that fall to you, Eggbutt?

You’re an odd one, aren’t you?

[Ambitious_Kate]

@eggbutt

Ironically Ali Brock instructs at Paradigm, at least she used to coach Leif Aho at his facility. I have no idea if they still work with each other or not.

Well, he advertises that he does. We all know sometimes websites can be out of date, but it appears he does.

[Scribbler]

Any discussion of people attempting to ruin LK is hilarious. She has done a pretty good job of ruining herself, as is true of every opiod addict.

People don’t conspire to ruin addicts. They don’t need to. People just usually try to get the hll away from them. Like banning them from the family home and firing them from training programs.

[FitzE]

Wait, so Ali Brock, that great witness we saw in the trial, has to go to Paradigm to train the owner there - where LK is who is smearing Ali’s name all over this BB, on facebook, etc. and who has hinted that she’s hired a ‘top ten global blue chip law firm’ which has argued several SCOTUS cases blah blah blah stare decisis (or whatever twaddle she was babbling on that thread) to sue someone or something big (people were speculating she’s going to try to sue SS and USEF)?

If I were Ali I wouldn’t step foot on that property until LK was no longer there. I honestly hope she has someone with her at all times as LK has been so vocal in targeting her, I would be concerned for Ali’s safety.

Same for MHG. I’d make sure if there was even a slight chance LK might be at the same place at the same time, I’d make sure I had a couple people around me if I were MHG. Can’t be too careful with people like that.

[CanteringCarrot]

@Scribbler

Any discussion of people attempting to ruin LK is hilarious. She has done a pretty good job of ruining herself, as is true of every opiod addict.

People don’t conspire to ruin addicts. They don’t need to. People just usually try to get the hll away from them. Like banning them from the family home and firing them from training programs.

Exactly.

The other thing is that it’s difficult for someone who isn’t an addict to grasp their behavior(s). Just generally speaking about addicts in general here. Lies are the norm for them. They can be good at it and they don’t care. They’ll lie to your face about anything and everything. It’s unbelievable, literally. Just speaking from personal experience.

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

@MHM

@Sdel

Yes, but the prosecution seemed to try to question Ali Brock about this on cross.

Did they? I must have missed that part. Or maybe I just did not grasp the significance of that slant.

Ali Brock’s cross. The prosecution starts to ask her about her role in the USEF and then defense objects and the prosecution declined to proceed.

I would guess the defense was thinking of going down the rabbit hole to disprove yet another allegation. Then figured it was just not worth it, let the jurors just think about it like they did with everything else.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@trubandloki

I would guess the defense was thinking of going down the rabbit hole to disprove yet another allegation. Then figured it was just not worth it, let the jurors just think about it like they did with everything else.

Or he realized that he was about to try to smear the reputation of an olympic medalist on the American team and stopped himself.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@FitzE

Wait, so Ali Brock, that great witness we saw in the trial, has to go to Paradigm to train the owner there - where LK is who is smearing Ali’s name all over this BB, on facebook, etc. and who has hinted that she’s hired a ‘top ten global blue chip law firm’ which has argued several SCOTUS cases blah blah blah stare decisis (or whatever twaddle she was babbling on that thread) to sue someone or something big (people were speculating she’s going to try to sue SS and USEF)?

Yes. If she’s still teaching there, yes.