Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I was pointing out that MHG left her husband, disrupting the lives of her children, to train with and have an affair with a trainer

Talk about imagination and making assumptions!!! MHG was long before divorced when she matched up with MB. I don’t know why she doesn’t have primary custody of her children, never asked her, don’t care, and none of my business!

Now, why don’t you tell us every minute detail of YOUR life? Hmmm? You are so very interested in the lives of others, it’s only fair you share with the forum too! 'eh?

[Scribbler]

@eggbutt

@Danvers

why does LK have something against Ali Brock?
sorry if this was discussed earlier…

It’s quite a twisted tale. Please scroll up until you see a lengthy screenprint post by LK that was posted.

Asking why LK turns on people is fairly pointless. This kind of behavior can be understood as part of the cluster B and addict personality traits package.

Such people eventually turn on everyone, and when they are going down a particular paranoid delusional rabbit hole with one person, they will widen the hole to take in anyone nearby.

There will be some confusing story about what happened but it’s just the delusion expanding. The only real answer to “why?” is “because she was there.”

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no personal interest in who any of these people sleep with, marry, or divorce, or whatever.

Really?? If that’s the case, you certainly do seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about it. And researching the subject. And apparently documenting it. And posting about it. At exceedingly great length.

Again: Why. Do. You. Think. It’s. Any. Of. YOUR. Business.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@MHM

Why. Do. You. Think. It’s. Any. Of. Your. Business.

I think that if MB gave up his marriage and his business partner and half his financial assets to pursue his relationship with MHG, and the new relationship was not going well, and he was under stress trying to run the business, and under financial strain, that the constellation of emotional and financial stress contributed significantly to his mental breakdown.

I have no personal interest in who any of these people sleep with, marry, or divorce, or whatever.

It sure doesn’t seem like it.

As for the stressors upon MB there’s 19,000 pages that completely explain that.

You can’t win this debate. It wasn’t the divorce. It was LK. All LK. Just LK.

[BigMama1]

@eggbutt

Can you imagine being at a board barn where the owner has to leave the property to train with his chosen Olympic level trainer because of one boarder with a distinctly negative reputation and has made negative public comments about the trainer? Wow.

Why does anyone have to jump through hoops for this woman? It’s simple, if Aho wants to continue training with Brock, and Brock agrees to come to the property as long as LK is absent, then Aho needs to man up and tell LK she is not allowed on the property during xyz times/days whatever!!!

But, guess what? Aho’s training situation and business practices is none of our business, is it?

Why are we even wandering down this path? Nobody knows whether Ali comes to Paradigm or Leif goes to Ali. Nobody knows if Ali or Leif has requested that LK not be there at certain times and frankly, it’s nobody’s business but theirs. In either case, nobody has any idea if the teaching arrangement is in any way related to LK. This is where all the speculating and making up scenarios just gets silly.

If Leif does travel to Ali’s for lessons I’d suspect it has more to do with her being a busy Olympian with a packed schedule. Much easier to slot someone in for an hour in her own ring rather than leaving her farm to teach. I know several people who train with BNT’s in FL and they all ship or hack to the BMT for lessons.

[Scribbler]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

I was pointing out that MHG left her husband, disrupting the lives of her children, to train with and have an affair with a trainer

Talk about imagination and making assumptions!!! MHG was long before divorced when she matched up with MB. I don’t know why she doesn’t have primary custody of her children, never asked her, don’t care, and none of my business!

Now, why don’t you tell us every minute detail of YOUR life? Hmmm? You are so very interested in the lives of others, it’s only fair you share with the forum too! 'eh?

Speculating on timelines for divorces etc is prurient and disgusting. From the outside we actually don’t know when a couple first separated (it might be long before the public separation) and couples can stay separated for years if it does not make financial sense to officially divorce and split the assets right away.

The only thing that is relevant is if all the parties involved present the seperation as fair and amicable. It says a lot about a man who can navigate several consecutive relationships and have all the women remain supportive and positive.

Trying to piece together public records to imagine some prurient situation that could throw shade on an individual when everyone involved says things were fair is just disgusting.

[eggbutt]

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no personal interest in who any of these people sleep with, marry, or divorce, or whatever.

Really?? If that’s the case, you certainly do seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about it. And researching the subject. And apparently documenting it. And posting about it. At exceedingly great length.

Again: Why. Do. You. Think. It’s. Any. Of. YOUR. Business.

They don’t care that what they are posting is inaccurate even with being told several times they are wrong. They are truly obsessed with finding any possible reason to not accept that 100% of the events of August 2019 lies squarely with LK and her cohorts.

MICHAEL BARISONE HAD A GOOD LIFE UNTIL LAUREN KANAREK DECIDED TO FINISH THE BA$TARD!!!

[DownYonder]

@BigMama1

If Leif does travel to Ali’s for lessons I’d suspect it has more to do with her being a busy Olympian with a packed schedule. Much easier to slot someone in for an hour in her own ring rather than leaving her farm to teach. I know several people who train with BNT’s in FL and they all ship or hack to the BMT for lessons.

Very good point!

[DownYonder]

@Knights_Mom

As for the stressors upon MB there’s 19,000 pages that completely explain that.

You can’t win this debate. It wasn’t the divorce. It was LK. All LK. Just LK.

And I am postulating that there will be far more than 19,000 pages of SM posts by the time they get to the civil trials.

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@Knights_Mom

As for the stressors upon MB there’s 19,000 pages that completely explain that.

You can’t win this debate. It wasn’t the divorce. It was LK. All LK. Just LK.

And I am postulating that there will be far more than 19,000 pages of SM posts by the time they get to the civil trials.

No doubt!!

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no personal interest in who any of these people sleep with, marry, or divorce, or whatever.

Really?? If that’s the case, you certainly do seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about it. And researching the subject. And apparently documenting it. And posting about it. At exceedingly great length.

Again: Why. Do. You. Think. It’s. Any. Of. YOUR. Business.

They don’t care that what they are posting is inaccurate even with being told several times they are wrong. They are truly obsessed with finding any possible reason to not accept that 100% of the events of August 2019 lies squarely with LK and her cohorts.

MICHAEL BARISONE HAD A GOOD LIFE UNTIL LAUREN KANAREK DECIDED TO FINISH THE BA$TARD!!!

You hit the nail on the head. I don’t accept the 100% responsibility attributed to LK and RG.

I think the situation was a disaster brewing, and I think LK, RG, MB, MHG, and RC all contributed to the explosive situation.

LK is far from blameless. But to claim that MB, MHG, and RC did not have major roles and responsibility in creating the situation that led MB to have a mental breakdown is nuts.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@lazaret

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, was MHG already divorced from her husband when she left him, disrupting the lives of the two children, to enter a “relationship” with a top trainer who might facilitate her goal of getting on an Olympic team? A top trainer who had been permitting two “known druggies” to live on his property for a year?

You seem to have real difficulty with timelines. What jumps out at me is your continued assertion that LK was there first and somehow MHG took up with MB to get into some kind of competition with LK.

She was already involved with him before LK marched herself onto the scene. His divorce was over and done by April 2019. Twisting the timeline to make the movie in your head work doesn’t make any of your invented times facts.

The part where you continue to try to make this some love triangle gone awry is baffling. It’s a weird fixation on people’s sexual and marital lives and it’s pretty gross, tbh.

No, I’m not saying MHG, MB, LK were a love triangle of any type.

MHG apparently dropped MB very suddenly after the shooting. Another poster defended MHG for dropping him so abruptly on the grounds she was looking after the interests of her children.

Way back, there was a post that said that prior to 2019, when MB and VKB were still married, MB, VKB, and MHG were all living and training at Hawthorne Hill. The post said that VKB did not want a divorce, but that MHG and MB conducted their affair openly until VKB was driven out. I do not know whether LK was there at the time or not. I don’t know if it’s true. While I understand divorce is commonplace and often the best, or only, step in some situations, forcing the current wife out of the picture by carrying on with the younger protege before obtaining a divorce, or even a separation, strikes me as unspeakably selfish and cruel on the part of MB. And MHG.

On the issue of MHG conducting her life putting the children’s interest foremost, I was pointing out that MHG left her husband, disrupting the lives of her children, to train with and have an affair with a trainer (currently married according to the post) who she thought could help her further her dressage ambitions. The fact that she left MB so abruptly after the shooting, when he was delusional and incarcerated, indicates to me that the basis for the relationship was something other than a loving commitment. After the shooting, the danger from LK and RG was over.

I don’t know if the post about MHG and MB carrying on under his current wife’s nose is true or not. But it fits with IMs statements that MB gave up everything (his marriage and business partner and half his assets) for MHG. If the relationship with MHG was not going well by summer of 2019, prior to the shooting, that would a huge amount of stress for MB.

I don’t think LK was making a play for MB, or that MHG considered LK a romantic rival. I can well imagine that MHG resented LK taking up MB’s time and attention in terms of training, though, and wanted her gone for that reason.

Apparently MHG wanted LK gone as early as April 2019, but MB declined to give LK notice that he was ending the training/boarding arrangement for months. Instead, he tried to keep LK as a client and somehow appease MHG. When the pressure and impossibility of doing both became unbearable, he experienced a mental break and shot LK.

What I don’t understand, or disagree with, is this narrative that the tragedy was 100% created by LK. She obviously had her role in creating the situation which eventually blew up. But MB, MHG, and RC also had major roles in creating the situation. MB has been acquitted due to his insanity. But was MHG delusional as well?

Wow, you’ve just invented a whole, reasonably complex, narrative around something that you don’t know is true or not (twice, in your own words), because you believe a random person on a public forum knows things.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no personal interest in who any of these people sleep with, marry, or divorce, or whatever.

Really?? If that’s the case, you certainly do seem to spend an awful lot of time thinking about it. And researching the subject. And apparently documenting it. And posting about it. At exceedingly great length.

Again: Why. Do. You. Think. It’s. Any. Of. YOUR. Business.

They don’t care that what they are posting is inaccurate even with being told several times they are wrong. They are truly obsessed with finding any possible reason to not accept that 100% of the events of August 2019 lies squarely with LK and her cohorts.

MICHAEL BARISONE HAD A GOOD LIFE UNTIL LAUREN KANAREK DECIDED TO FINISH THE BA$TARD!!!

You hit the nail on the head. I don’t accept the 100% responsibility attributed to LK and RG.

I think the situation was a disaster brewing, and I think LK, RG, MB, MHG, and RC all contributed to the explosive situation.

LK is far from blameless. But to claim that MB, MHG, and RC did not have major roles and responsibility in creating the situation that led MB to have a mental breakdown is nuts.

Nuts?

Being you’re the odd man out, I know your conclusion of things is quite the faulty one.

But as stubbornly as LK would you’ll latch onto this belief and keep running with it.

Agenda much?

[OntheFnce]

@Jealoushe

thread still going strong eh.

All ya’lls favourite psych expert is on this podcast released today ahahha. At the 6 minute left in the episode area…

https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-michelle-eason-part-2/

FYI, it’s y’all not ya’ll.

[Scribbler]

I agree, the narrative being spun by CH is at this point pretty much imaginative fiction. Whatever comments by LK they are rooted in, are likely untrue because LK lies on SM all the time.

Its really easy to sit home and imagine plausible scenarios for people’s lives. If you have skills and talent and are relatively sane this can be a strong basis for becoming a novelist

However it’s really important to realize that if you create fantasy narratives about real people that they are not true and should not be argued in public as if they are.

Creating fantasies and then believing they are true is going down the delusional path.

[roseymare]

We will have you un scared of horses soon!

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

But to claim that MB, MHG, and RC did not have major roles and responsibility in creating the situation that led MB to have a mental breakdown is nuts.

Yet somehow he did NOT have a mental breakdown until LK decided to “finish the bastard,” according to her sworn testimony on the witness stand.

[Knights_Mom]

It one thing to suggest scenarios but quite another to swear them as truths when what you’re suggesting and swearing to isn’t involved in the issue at hand in the first place.

[ohnoO]

@BrownDerby

@Scribbler

Yes exactly what I was thinking.

Is it possible some of these revelations may be bit new even to the parents?

I mean 100 per cent she lies to her parents.

They may have believed that she was seriously riding horses as part of recovery, not just dabbling in an active addict dazed way and going street addict toxic when that became apparent to those in her horse life.

You may be on to something. Surely her parents would seek mental help for her? It must be awful, to have your mind constantly churning, churning churning. Not to mention lonely. Get her some professional psychiatric and addiction help for God’s sake. She has the second half of her life left yet to live. I cannot imagine how exhausting it would be to live like this. At some posh rehab clinics, families are included in the healing process.

In her testimony on the witness stand, LK did answer “yes” when the prosecution ask her if she was seeing a psychiatrist and an addiction specialist. Just a FYI—who knows if it was the truth.
I’m pretty sure the question was “seeing” not “under the care of”, but I’m not going back to verify that.

[eggbutt]

Yeah, I’m not believing that, but it really makes little difference what any of us believe. I can imagine Deininger/Bilinkas calling the person as a witness for the civil trial.

Will part of the discovery be complete medical records exchanged on both MB and LK?