Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ekat]

@MHM

Thank you for doing that so the rest of us did not have to!

I’m going to cleanse my brain by watching Boyd Martin and Phillip Dutton.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Well you know zebra- horse & 4 years-2.5 years lol
He’s as accurate as his clients

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

Yes, anyone from the outside reading these thousands and thousands of posts bashing, researching, and scrutinizing LK and her family will certainly be shocked at the posts stating there was a lot going on in MB’s life beyond a problematic boarder.

MH testified she met MB in her teens and they were together since 2015. VK filed for divorce in 2017 and didn’t open her own business until about April 2019 which is also about the time MB complained to MH that it was hard to feel good after being “clipped” by VK for $965,000.

Early on, posters that knew them said that VK was living in the house while MH was living in the barn and MB had joined MH. I thought one of the LK bashing MB groupie actually knew something when they said VK was out prior to LK moving in summer of 2018 but not I doubt that person’s knowledge as they are wrong on other easily checked items.

While I’m commenting, a couple of other items were misreported up thread. The FM gave them a temporary ok to stay that night off the photos pending a physical inspection to verify work done. He didn’t waive the inspection requirement, it was a temporary permission.

Also, RC testified she did not give MB any ammunition, one magazine was empty and one might have had a couple of rounds left over from prior target shooting. I can’t remember any other 9 mm hand guns. There was a .22 and a .45 and both were rendered inoperable by removal of the firing pins.

The third guy on site was the one that searched MB and read him his rights. The second guy watched RG at all times and watched him place the dog just inside the door. Then later he was part of a 3 man team to search the house.

ED had not presented the deal for LK to move yet. He was on his way over to tell her and on the phone when she was shot by MB. The unfiled demand letter from the say before would give her 30 days to move after being filed so she still had time to look around for another place. The mom that testified that there were several places had not yet moved her horses either and she was looking.

The continued focus on LK being the sole source of MB’s stress lines up with Dr Schlesinger who said she was a threat, MB was sane and attempted murder.

We all know the jury believed Dr Simring and Dr Hasson who found LK was not a threat and instead MB was under a delusion that she was and therefore was insane when he shot her so not criminally liable. If he can ever be released as sane and no longer a threat to himself or others, he may have supervised freedoms such as to stay in New Jersey and away from LK or he may have full freedom restored.

I have said before that continued feeding of his delusions on this forum that he may eventually be allowed to read is not being his friend, it is not doing him any favors. It is not wise. It may be harmful.

CH is fine with her speculation. There were a lot of comments in the first thread about both. To say her questions are not her business is almost humorous in its double standard considering the levels of speculation about LK and her family. How is that the business of anyone?

MB was up against a lot. He had a divorce, the loss of a business partnership (wife), loss of a barn manager (wife), a new love, the loss of a new love, financial loss, 8-9 concussions plus aging with those injuries, possibly having male aging issues and keeping up with younger fit women, cash flow challenges, ice and water damage to his house, a lot of horses without board being paid (his own-unknown number, MH’s 8-9 and no she wasn’t counting MB’s because she also testified to not having a business relationship with him) the barter deal was unsatisfactory for 2 of LK’s horses, and LK was by testimony being disorderly. MB had changed from being the Olympic contender to teaching and mentoring contenders. He might still get a fantastic horse and go but he had entered a kind of passing the baton to the younger contenders.

I think if LK heard them talking about scaring her out and perhaps even keeping a horse of hers for board and was then shot by a party to that conversations handgun, it is reasonable that she then began to believe there was a conspiracy to kill her even if, at the time, it was the furthest thing from anyone’s mind.

I think LK and MB were a terrible mix and very bad for each other, their personalities clashed in a horrible way.

I agree MH had to bail because of her kids. I also believe her dad came because he was worried for her for a lot of reasons, not just what was stated.

This is all a terrible tragedy. MB wrecked his life and scarred her for life. He may get out of an institution someday but then again, he may be there for life. He had two friends for sure-the nice lawyer friend and LO. I hope he realizes what LO is doing for him and treats her wonderfully for their lives going forward.

Haha! And if we added up everyone’s posts on all the MB topics I’d be trailing the pack…

[MHM]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

Well you know zebra- horse & 4 years-2.5 years lol

As I recall, he was trying to deploy the old saying about hearing hoofbeats and assuming it was a horse, not a zebra. But he could not even get that right.

[ekat]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

Well you know zebra- horse & 4 years-2.5 years lol
He’s as accurate as his clients

Perhaps he should consider a not so “green” office. Calendars, notebooks, those things could be his friends.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@lazaret

@hut-ho78

He was on his way over to tell her and on the phone when she was shot by MB.

He testified he was on his way back to his office from a courthouse. He did not ever mention intending to see her and in fact had no recollection of her address or the name of the farm when asked by the dispatcher.

He called to present the terms. He was unable to do so. The misrepresentation up thread was she still refused to leave after they were presented. They were never presented.

He testified he couldn’t remember the barn or address because he was in extremis after hearing her be shot. He had to stop and look it up.

Testimony was that it was presented. How would you know any better than what was found to be truth at trial?

[smoofox]

@hut-ho78

This is all a terrible tragedy. MB wrecked his life and scarred her for life.

And once again, LK is excused for any and all vile behavior, plots, schemes, threats and Finish the Bastard. I think she has had a hand in wrecking her own life as well. But there is nothing to see here. Nope. Sweet, innocent, beautiful young Olympic hopeful of incredible talent is shot by her bullying, evil, scheming, maniacal, delusional trainer who wants her horses, is trying to appease his girlfriend - or whatever the latest macabre version of events is.

It is a tragedy - as is the gymnastics some are going through to twist things to suit specific scenarios… even painting LK as the wide-eyed ingenue who must not be doubted.

I apparently was also watching a completely different trial than a few people here. Maybe I was confusing Johnny Depp for RG??

@IdahoRider

@smoofox

Although I used to watch Ally McBeal all the time back in the day.

I loved that show!
Sheilah

Bygones! (the Ally McBeal version of saying … )

[MHM]

@smoofox

I apparently was also watching a completely different trial than a few people here. Maybe I was confusing Johnny Depp for RG??

I have not been watching the Johnny Depp trial, or keeping up with him lately. But if you actually mixed those two up, you might want to go see an eye doctor immediately. Immediately!!

[ohnoO]

@smoofox

Maybe I was confusing Johnny Depp for RG??

Nobody would do that! I didn’t see Johnny Depp “sitting and spinning”!

[Graymaresrule]

Or it’s projection

Oops, someone else beat me to it

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

Yes, anyone from the outside reading these thousands and thousands of posts bashing, researching, and scrutinizing LK and her family will certainly be shocked at the posts stating there was a lot going on in MB’s life beyond a problematic boarder.

MH testified she met MB in her teens and they were together since 2015. VK filed for divorce in 2017 and didn’t open her own business until about April 2019 which is also about the time MB complained to MH that it was hard to feel good after being “clipped” by VK for $965,000.

Early on, posters that knew them said that VK was living in the house while MH was living in the barn and MB had joined MH. I thought one of the LK bashing MB groupie actually knew something when they said VK was out prior to LK moving in summer of 2018 but not I doubt that person’s knowledge as they are wrong on other easily checked items.

While I’m commenting, a couple of other items were misreported up thread. The FM gave them a temporary ok to stay that night off the photos pending a physical inspection to verify work done. He didn’t waive the inspection requirement, it was a temporary permission.

Also, RC testified she did not give MB any ammunition, one magazine was empty and one might have had a couple of rounds left over from prior target shooting. I can’t remember any other 9 mm hand guns. There was a .22 and a .45 and both were rendered inoperable by removal of the firing pins.

The third guy on site was the one that searched MB and read him his rights. The second guy watched RG at all times and watched him place the dog just inside the door. Then later he was part of a 3 man team to search the house.

ED had not presented the deal for LK to move yet. He was on his way over to tell her and on the phone when she was shot by MB. The unfiled demand letter from the say before would give her 30 days to move after being filed so she still had time to look around for another place. The mom that testified that there were several places had not yet moved her horses either and she was looking.

The continued focus on LK being the sole source of MB’s stress lines up with Dr Schlesinger who said she was a threat, MB was sane and attempted murder.

We all know the jury believed Dr Simring and Dr Hasson who found LK was not a threat and instead MB was under a delusion that she was and therefore was insane when he shot her so not criminally liable. If he can ever be released as sane and no longer a threat to himself or others, he may have supervised freedoms such as to stay in New Jersey and away from LK or he may have full freedom restored.

I have said before that continued feeding of his delusions on this forum that he may eventually be allowed to read is not being his friend, it is not doing him any favors. It is not wise. It may be harmful.

CH is fine with her speculation. There were a lot of comments in the first thread about both. To say her questions are not her business is almost humorous in its double standard considering the levels of speculation about LK and her family. How is that the business of anyone?

MB was up against a lot. He had a divorce, the loss of a business partnership (wife), loss of a barn manager (wife), a new love, the loss of a new love, financial loss, 8-9 concussions plus aging with those injuries, possibly having male aging issues and keeping up with younger fit women, cash flow challenges, ice and water damage to his house, a lot of horses without board being paid (his own-unknown number, MH’s 8-9 and no she wasn’t counting MB’s because she also testified to not having a business relationship with him) the barter deal was unsatisfactory for 2 of LK’s horses, and LK was by testimony being disorderly. MB had changed from being the Olympic contender to teaching and mentoring contenders. He might still get a fantastic horse and go but he had entered a kind of passing the baton to the younger contenders.

I think if LK heard them talking about scaring her out and perhaps even keeping a horse of hers for board and was then shot by a party to that conversations handgun, it is reasonable that she then began to believe there was a conspiracy to kill her even if, at the time, it was the furthest thing from anyone’s mind.

I think LK and MB were a terrible mix and very bad for each other, their personalities clashed in a horrible way.

I agree MH had to bail because of her kids. I also believe her dad came because he was worried for her for a lot of reasons, not just what was stated.

This is all a terrible tragedy. MB wrecked his life and scarred her for life. He may get out of an institution someday but then again, he may be there for life. He had two friends for sure-the nice lawyer friend and LO. I hope he realizes what LO is doing for him and treats her wonderfully for their lives going forward.

Haha! And if we added up everyone’s posts on all the MB topics I’d be trailing the pack…

On truth? Absolutely.

[cutter99]

@ohnoO

@jvanrens

@BrownDerby

@DownYonder

Close the barn to boarders and clients at least one day a week - or even a half day. Make it a written policy that applies to ALL boarders/clients. Then the resident trainer can have his own trainer come in on that day.

Unfortunately, in this case the boarder has an apartment on the property.

But I’m sure I read somewhere that she only uses it to nap after lessons or riding before she goes home. I could be off, but don’t have the time to go looking for the post.

I remember that also, but I don’t know where I read it.

A little late to the party here, but it was on a thread about blanketing, temperature changes during the day, and boarding. She also bragged about her hired “groom” or “grooms”. She stated she had the apartment even though it was only 10 minutes from her house so she could “nap” between rides.

[Davignport]

It would seem that things would be much smoother to just ignore posts by HH and CH. If they care to spend their time and efforts defending LK and company, have at it. I, for one, am sick of it. Did they not watch the same trial the rest of us did.

[Knights_Mom]

@cutter99

@ohnoO

@jvanrens

@BrownDerby

@DownYonder

Close the barn to boarders and clients at least one day a week - or even a half day. Make it a written policy that applies to ALL boarders/clients. Then the resident trainer can have his own trainer come in on that day.

Unfortunately, in this case the boarder has an apartment on the property.

But I’m sure I read somewhere that she only uses it to nap after lessons or riding before she goes home. I could be off, but don’t have the time to go looking for the post.

I remember that also, but I don’t know where I read it.

A little late to the party here, but it was on a thread about blanketing, temperature changes during the day, and boarding. She also bragged about her hired “groom” or “grooms”. She stated she had the apartment even though it was only 10 minutes from her house so she could “nap” between rides.

And I wondered I’d the actual purpose was to allow for napping or something else.

[MHM]

@Graymaresrule

Or it’s projection

Oops, someone else beat me to it

Honestly, I’m glad I was not the only one who thought of it. Lol.

[ohnoO]

Ok it is coming up on 3 weeks since the verdict!

This is maddening and I’m not even peripherally involved!

I just can’t help but suspect something else is going on.

Maybe where he is is actually better than the other option .

[MHM]

@ohnoO

Ok it is coming up on 3 weeks since the verdict!

This is maddening and I’m not even peripherally involved!

It feels more like three months! And that’s just coming from a spectator.

[ohnoO]

Yep, we have moved down from our box seats and are now sitting on the rail!

[Sparky]

I was wondering if the pro Kanarek Krew had reached the bottom of the barrel yet. And then this nugget speculating on er…… dysfunction. Wow.

[cutter99]

@Knights_Mom

@cutter99

@ohnoO

@jvanrens

@BrownDerby

@DownYonder

Close the barn to boarders and clients at least one day a week - or even a half day. Make it a written policy that applies to ALL boarders/clients. Then the resident trainer can have his own trainer come in on that day.

Unfortunately, in this case the boarder has an apartment on the property.

But I’m sure I read somewhere that she only uses it to nap after lessons or riding before she goes home. I could be off, but don’t have the time to go looking for the post.

I remember that also, but I don’t know where I read it.

A little late to the party here, but it was on a thread about blanketing, temperature changes during the day, and boarding. She also bragged about her hired “groom” or “grooms”. She stated she had the apartment even though it was only 10 minutes from her house so she could “nap” between rides.

And I wondered I’d the actual purpose was to allow for napping or something else.

My money is on something else!